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I think the problem he's pointing out is that bucklers are much less detrimental at 0 skill to your spellcasting than shields are, so while you have to get the same level of skill to get rid of the penalties, the work to get there is much harder, because you're under such a larger penalty. Also shie...

Note also that spears and hand-axes do slightly more damage than clubs and daggers (hand axes are roughly as accurate as clubs and spears are roughly as accurate as daggers, iirc) should you have those as options for throwing in the early game. Thrown stones do less damage than darts. It looks to me...

Hm, I distinctly recall that happening at some point, of course that was a while ago, perhaps it's been changed since. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 75d496b | Neil Moore | 2013-06-30 15:06:55 -0400 Turn off heat aura for Lava Orcs of Beogh. -------...

I have a completely outside of the box idea on Skalds. To make them a little more intreresting and desirable. Just as Dragonkin get a breath weapon at Level 7 based on a color roll, have Skalds receive an instrument roll at 7, with different useful effects. They could have BREATH-like cooldown mech...

While it doesn't solve the lack of in game documentation on the subject, Stabbing has been replaced by the average of your Stealth and Weapon skill

Hm, I distinctly recall that happening at some point, of course that was a while ago, perhaps it's been changed since.

I'd take a HO over a LO for some types of characters. The fire aura isn't that great at high level (The extra damage done is Ok, but not really exciting) The movement penalty is a hassle, I lost a few LO's to centaurs before I figured out I needed to pay extra attention to my temperature and manage ...

And the demon whip wouldn't do much for stabbing damage, it would do more damage in melee combat, but there's not much reason to melee as a spriggan stabber.

Also at the level you're at now a dagger (any dagger) will do more stab damage than the sabre, though the sabre will do more damage when you're meleeing. I would be surprised if there are *no* other books that you can use outside your starting book yet, try control-F "book" to look for oth...

Some other ways to stab than confuse and sleep: Petrify, Paralyze, Enslavement (control+direction lets you stab an ally), Distraction (While attacking an allied creature, perhaps an enslaved one), Invisibility, Dazzling, Nets. I'm sure I've missed a few. Finally, you don't have to fight them, as a S...

Just luck.

So one ability in the new Skald toolset that doesn't sit well with me is Song of Slaying. It's hard to use, expensive, and not very effect when it does work, I end up just not using it. What I was thinking is this: 1. Once cast the spell stays active, it can be cancelled with a command from the abil...

Don't rely on the wiki alone, it has a reputation for being out of date. Check the bots too (and you can ask in IRC as well). In this case it says: Reduces hunger by 40% per turn, rounded down. This means 3 -> 1 for most races. No effect on spriggans . A waste of a ring slot. My impression from pla...

it also doesn't at all mention any armour penalty, does that mean i should wear whatever armour i damned well please? i'm pretty much ONLY experienced at playing a heavy armour berserker, i assume this will play similarly except that i'll fire a few bolts from time to time when monsters are scary. ...

afaik the {god gift} tag lasts until such time as you merge it with another stack that doesn't have such a tag (so it's permanent on non-missile gifts, and goes away pretty much as soon as you pick up a stack of missiles)

Here's the quick and dirty perl script I wrote to do it: open IN, "<scores"; $linenum = 0; $colnum = 0; while($line = <IN>) { $linenum++; @things = split(':',$line); foreach $thing (@things) { ($type,$def) = $thing =~/(.*)=(.*)/; $results[$linenum]->{$type} = $def; if(!exists($coldef{$type...

I didn't know I shouldnt be on snake:5... I also didn't know anything could stop you climbing stairs. Generally speaking the last level of any branch is 2-4 times more difficult than the previous levels (You can see how long the branches are with Control-O) And now you know constriction is very dan...

And with no rPois. If the constriction doesn't get you the poison will. Jewellery c - an uncursed ring of see invisible d - an uncursed ring of poison resistance i - an uncursed amulet of clarity j - a ring of poison resistance (right hand) Whats the deal with them stopping me climbing the stairs, ...

Blink counts as two attempts to escape constriction, so it's better than just moving. Fear can work on many of these critters, however it can't work on the greater Nagas (However it might give you the space to get away from everything else, who knows) I'd probably Read fear (reduce your combatants),...

Press t to open the dialogue for talking, then t again to shout I believe. I don't think this will get things out of your LOS, but it might if they are close enough. I've only used it to wake up sleeping enemies to get them to come back with me to explored territory. Also I think it's safer to just...

halbyc wrote:is there a way to shout / make noise on a loop during a shift-5 mass_wait thing? ie: go to the corner at the edge of a room, and start yelling, so things come to me, instead of having to wander out into the open?

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Also Fights get out of hand for a melee user when too many critters join the party. Every time you whack something you make noise and things nearby come to investigate. If you let most things chase you back to an already-cleared area before you kill them, you'll get to fight them much more one-on-one.

i'm also having a dilema about x-training bows with a -1 aptitude while my melee skills are not yet anywhere near maxed... i can see how softening up melee targets with a bow as they close, then switching to weapon makes sense, but i am not afraid of melee targets, my only real fear in this game is...

do skills have diminishing returns on xp... ie: if i have a fighting score of 1, and a polearm score of 10, and i train only 1 skill for a full xp level, would i gain 1 fighting / 1 polearm, or would it be more like 3 fighting / 1 polearm ? or to put it another way, do i have the choice btw having ...

Well, my last three games I didn't get any electrocution branded weapons at all, I don't think it's particularly too common, Nor do I really feel like it's really overpowered, just good.

Well, all I do to (try to) improve my army is to get them polymorphed. A decently raised warrior can easily become a moth of wrath (If four warlords can clear a floor, how about four berserking ones?). Inconvibienty, beogh sees this as blasphemy if you do it, but throwing a polymorph wand at a gnol...

BiA cannot be abjured (unless they are just very hard to abjure, but I've never seen it happen). Small addendum to the wand list: draining is equivalent to a lv 6 spell, not lv 5. Polymorph wands are excellent against boggarts and some monsters with annoyingly good equipment and fairly low MR. Ness...

distortion does more damage you know... Distortion does: 33.3% of the time 1+(2d7/2) = avg 4.5 * 33.3% = 1. 5 avg/hit 33.3% of the remainder of the time (That is to say 22.2% of the total) it does 3+(2d24/2) = average 15 * 22.2% = 3.3 avg/hit 33.3% of the remainder of the time (That is to say 14.81...

Electrocution makes noise. Not as much as Shield of Gong but still it can be a problem. I thought that was only in water? The brand (roughly) doubles the normal melee attack noise. Of course the noise has a cap that most players will see by the end of the game regardless of brand, but early on it m...

Well, there's that one Oka vault where you get to pick one of two rewards after beating the baddies, the other gets dropped into lava

Indeed since sleep/paralyze stabs are one shot one kill at that point it doesn't really matter what short blade you're using. Confuse stabs, petrify stabs, net stabs, are all helped by a little more damage (even invis stabs sometimes, although most things that can be invis stabbed are one shot one k...

I see i got 7 MP now, the reason I said I needed Spellcasting was to get enough MP to cast both finess and hero :) But yeah, I need to get invo, that's probably my next move For future info, the highest of Invo, Evo, and Spellcasting gives you MP, so if you're going to train Invo to gain success ra...

Wands and what they're good for: Attack wands: Wand of magic darts - Level 1 attack spell, does poor damage but always hits, can shoot anything in range, useful for attracting attention of one thing out of a pack, as it's quiet Wand of frost - Level 2 attack spell, decent for the first few levels be...

Ash's piety, like most gods, degrades slowly over time. In this case you happened to lose the point of piety needed to activate that ability during combat.

Trolls can't wear Crystal plate (It's like plate armour, but made of crystal) You could ultimately get a couple more points of AC by enchanting up a GDA, however I'm of the opinion that it's not worth the wait. You aren't likely to get one early enough in a 3 rune game to make much difference. Plus ...

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That's intentional. If you wait around a ridiculous length of time on a level it will start spawning higher level critters, then eventually it will taper off and stop producing new creatures at all.

Or to put it another way "don't do that"

Maybe we could use runes themselves rather than adding a new thing, it might be pretty interesting if there were bits of the game that were locked off until you got certain runes or a certain number of runes (As is already done for the zot portal)

This is what I think of for a Gargoyle in armour:

The thing to use silence for as a stabber is to avoid melee combat noise and shouting and of course spellcasting of the naughty critters as well. Silence is good to cast if something is *already* awake, and you're just going to beat it up, that way you can do so without waking the rest of the level....

Stab damage is random, it's still possible to cause 30 damage with stabbing 27 and +9 Sabre if you are unlucky to roll 1 as base damage I can't really be bothered to go and check but I'm almost certain this is completely made-up. I can be wrong here but from the source code I got impression that st...

Anyone have an idea of how much the Ring of Ice increases EH success? IE, how many ranks in ice magic is it equivalent to? Trying to weigh benefits of this ring vs other rings to a stabber... Ken It's not a set amount, it's +50% raw power (Which is then stepped down at high power) So roughly speaki...

No, stasis does not prevent banishment. MR helps to resist the spell. There is no defense vs banishment caused by distortion weapon. I would try Lair 8 but be ready to go into Orcs if it's too hard. I think you can train Dodging instead of Armour, EV 7 is too little. Broad Axe needs 18 Axes, no nee...

well the main thing is you dont need to spend so much xp on stabbing if you use a dagger Yes. Dagger reaches stabbing cap much earlier. But later in the game a sabre or qblade can deal the same (or even more!) damage. Indeed, I usually try to have a good sabre online at the end of the game, because...

Thanks for the replies. I am tempted to keep using the ring mail and use my scrolls on my other pieces, but they don't even have egos. I'll carry on and see if I can score some upgrades. uh, you should definitely be using the heaviest plate you can find. ring mail only provides 24% GDR, whereas nor...

Actually min delay isn't 160/2 or 200/2, either one can get down to 70% so at max skill they are the same speed.

Broad axe requires (160-70)/10 = 9 * 2 = 18 axe skill
Executioner's axe requires (200-70)/10 = 13*2 = 26 axe skill

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I thought that's what dungeon sprint was for

Plutonium wrote:Are they all lying?

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resourc ... acies.aspx

Griever7x wrote:I imagine an angry constipated bird with claws and a quiver full of pointy javelins ready to be thrown at anything that moves, with exploding balls of lightning everywhere

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