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duvessa wrote:Is this an oblique rag on the xp penalty for using allies

It's more about amulet of the acrobat. Sorry, Lasty.

It's super OP for the minotaur headbutt challenge conduct, though.

As someone who's won vampire exactly once because I "had to" for greater player, I find any race that as a "no regen" state to be very tedious. DD has an alternative healing mechanic to make up for it, but how you're expected to heal on vampire is just too unreliable; as far as I...

Oh man, this thread. There's no way this goes down smoothly. Might end up needing to be closed as too broad - listing 9 different species for the axe basically guarentees there's no way to reach a consensus on all of them because there's too many details and people will chime in about whatever subse...

I'd probably do health. Hand is great for transmuters but only when they have some other way to get resistances (armor). At least felid does take care of your rC, MR and sInv automatically, but still.

Airwolf wrote:Did you die? No? Then it's a bug.

Not only that, they weren't even hit.

They died before making to the upstairs floor. So if the priests were at 6 range they still could have killed the player. Someone correct me if I am wrong but if you immediately ascend on the stairs, and this was your first stair to the level than the priests do not get any action, so they cannot s...

Well yeah if you're comparing it to a minotaur or even just an average berserker, it's weaker, but the point of this thread was that felid is a given. Be's a strong background for Fe, but you're still a felid.

In that case it's slightly more easy to switch or choose for the first time to train axes, but I'd still say you want to wait until you actually have one. Ego trident is relatively decent for a while but you'll probably end up using vile clutch much more. If you have that much necromancy training yo...

The correct answer is also the worst one: You should be looking for a high damage endgame weapon, and train the skill of whatever the best one you have is. But you should swap weapons whenever you think there's something weak enough for the whip to handle. You want to judge every incoming monster as...

FeBe is the simpliest felid combo, and is very powerful through the early and mid game. It starts to lose its advantages in late depths, vaults:5, and zot. It is still powerful enough to get through the end game if played carefully of course, even I've won FeBe (stayed with trog all game long) and I...

I'd be alright with nets/para/poly wands. But like I said above, do whatever rules you think are most appropriate. I just had my first ever run reach a chei altar, go back to the dungeon, kill a gnoll and an adder, heal to full life, and die trying to 1v1 a gnoll with a spear. Couldn't get any headb...

How exactly did you die, by the way? Were you smited or hacked to death? I see various orc priests there. If it's the former, the placement of the monsters directly adjacent to you doesn't matter much. What on earth are you talking about, man? If the priests were not adjacent, he can just go back u...

I don't think 10 to 1 is really needed to make it more fair, but you could let the monk play as a gladiator instead if you want them to have a bit more physical strength early on. Really though the backgrounds aren't too important. Race wise humans/high elf are reasonably good, but DS/DD are a bit s...

Well if you're looking to copy the races, I think Bardin is a dwarf (I just looked up Vermintide quickly - I haven't seen it) so you might be "stuck" with DD. DD is pretty strong and would probably be the easiest. If you wanted to go with crossbows on a weaker race, Kobolds have +2, but th...

Personally, I'd say that pacify breaks the spirit if the conduct (killing things with only return damage) since pacify is basically an instant kill; and pacify runs have been done before. That being said I don't really have a solution to orbs of fire; the best thing to do would be to avoid/outrun th...

I tried a slightly weaker version of the conduct - never damage an enemy through an action. Aka, this allows for both headbutt and riposte. If you try this, at least early on without chei stats, it seems like riposte triggers an awful lot more often: Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 || total -------------------...

Since you can't start with monsters in sight they would have had to lure all these monsters back to the start. I suppose it's possible one or two where hiding directly behind the door but that's unlikely.

Though your tournament ranking is waning, Don't play drunk for the combos remaining, As in Soviet Ru, Drink will sacrifice you! (Xom still finds this result entertaining.) Feel free to recycle lines 3-4, as they deserve a better limerick. Since it references sacrifice drink, I think a potion themed...

Do you retaliate against any melee attack, regardless of if it was a miss/dodged/shield blocked? I'm giving this a shot and it seems like I'm blocking a decent amount of attacks and not getting many headbutts. Could just be bad luck, though.

Seems like the experience formula has changed; I logged into my previous level 32 character and got bumped down to 29: _You are now level 31! You are now level 30! You are now level 29! If I'm reading the github notes right, seems like the exp requirements start changing at level 13; I'd probably av...

Foiled again. Ah well, thanks for the correction.

I believe that's maces now; long blades were given riposte. While useful, the general impression I've gotten is most people think riposte is on the weaker side.

Jiyva is a very unreliable god in the early game anyway, to the point of being a trap. When they eat those items, jiyva gives you free passive healing, so I wouldn't call that a trap. Early Jiyva is pretty strong and the item loss isn't a big deal, but I agree that it's so rare to be able to do it ...

For fun facts, a lv27 minotaur with an int-less backround and max Cheibriados bonus that put their chosen stat ups into DEX will have ~75% headbutt chance. Without chei it's about 45%. Varies by a couple % on what backround it was and your random stat distribution. Not saying it's optimal or whatev...

I feel like Implojin's post was designed to help players win tavern bingo. That's not to say it isn't a good post (it's totally fine), but yeah, great for bingo. To be a bit more on topic, honestly I don't even think felids are that bad at melee starts. FeBe is powerful because you can get unusually...

There's no reason why shields are specifically tied to long blades, you can use 1h weapons of any type with shields. I personally love unarmed + shields, as it has a lot of top end power, but weapons are generally more efficent at low skill levels. Still, if you are considering 15 runes, that's the ...

Nah that's pretty reasonable, honestly. The hardest part of Octopode fighter with Gozag for rings is surviving long enough to actually get jewelry shops. Especially when you first two or three call merchants don't offer jewelry at all. Just wait until an appropriately late point to switch, maybe aro...

Or just randomize magic schools. Fire storm from a random book might require training Hexes and Polearms (sic!) instead of Fire Magic and Conjurations :) Suddenly late game books are never boring. I mean, it'd be funny, but it'd also be a management mess. But sure, I'll take a free firestorm which ...

I can sympathize because allies blocking your LoF is super annoying, but that's calling out for a much more general fix than an evocable. wading into the glory of battle until you are knee deep in blood

i have absolutely no idea how to make a macro. Draba explained the how; I figured I'd suggest what's probably the most common thing to macro: spells. "za" will cast the first spell in your 'a' slot. This is great for buffs like regeneration or non-targetted spells like blink. If you cast ...

Having played a bit more with no_spellpower_cap, what it really does is remove the cap from spells that were previously limited to <100 power. This can be a huge buff to some spells such as sandblast or stone arrow (I'm playing an EE). Normally sandblast caps out at 50 spellpower which is roughly 41...

does dragon's call cost 81 mana? I mean, it is possible to reach 81 mana, but that seems a bit harsh. If you really wanted to increase the mana I'd add something like a flat 50% cost and round down:

Level 1 is 1
level 2 is 3
level 3 is 4
level 4 is 6
...
level 9 is 13.

Also while loading webtiles, you can briefly see the right hand of the screen load before the main map loads. At the bottom of this is the text "Last ouch" (I have show_extra_numbers = true). I'm guessing that the intended space to show damage is actually there, but then gets covered by th...

Seems like my above assumption is correct: you only have infinite stones - large rocks, javelins, etc are all limited. This is probably fine. Actual problem: the unlimited stones option doesn't seem to work with autofight_throw = true set in the rc file. This should allow you to throw stones with ta...

My level 40 character ultimately died in a somewhat expected way: it was a poorly set up character for handling Ziggs, but I was too lazy to grind low density areas (pandemonium) for hours until it became a more properly-configured zigg character. I decided to dive in to the second zigg anyways, and...

Paperbell wrote:Also, is it okay to call wizlabs vaults?

I believe their usual term is "portal vaults", which is a type of vault, so sure.

Yet Another Delicious Death. Hellmonk is into vore.

this is a joke I don't actually know anything about hellmonk other than he makes hell crawl

Agreeing with the above: take long blades to 20, then train mostly fighting/armor with some dodging mixed in. Wear the best heavy armor you can find, which right now is that +1 plate of fire resistance. What hasn't been mentioned yet is a few tips for playing with Beogh - your allies are strong enou...

I wasn't aware that "does not care about skilling" meant "intentionally skill badly". I suspect that you won't find any winning nagas of Chei that intentionally positioned badly all game, either. Positioning badly all game long is certainly going to get you killed at some point....

Noise management is important only if you intend to be somewhat noisy. For most characters they aren't noisy enough for it to really matter. Even hitting hard in melee is only medium noise. If you want to play a caster with fireball or lightning etc then you need to understand noise mechanics.

If there was a strict limit on them I could see that, but being able to pick even just 1 or 2 mutations that you want is really, really strong. My character lost horns, but it picked up teleportitis. In good news I do at least also have rMut (the mutation) so my mutations haven't been changing much ...

Idea for an additional spicy option: no_mutations. If true, then the character is 100% immune to mutations. Potions of mutation could still generate just so you don't have to muck with the item pool, or just turn them to gold. They have no effect if you do try to quaff one, and should be colored gre...

Simply put the player HAS to have a level 4, or powered up level 3, or a certain branding of weapon for certain things, and this game is really, REALLY, bad at giving you them. Have you tried unarmed? Start the game with your endgame weapon on d:1. For easy unarmed characters, try any of these race...

What numbers does "extra numbers" show? I haven't really noticed anything extra so far...

P.S. I do like the debug hp option, though:

You pummel Cerebov like a punching bag for 156!!!!!
Cerebov is damaged (148 - 148 -> 0)
You kill Cerebov!

By the way it makes sense to lower score when you remove xl cap. It is much easier to win when you have more hp due to level 32 instead of 27. I mean this is true and all, but it's a very small difference. I'd make the option multiply scores by .95 or something, for a very small decrease, if he was...

Damnit max MP, you had one job.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22-a1.9 (webtiles) character file. Tasonir the Martial Artist (VSNe) Turns: 15116, Time: 00:51:35 Health: 77/77 AC: 31 Str: 27 XL: 14 Next: 70% Magic: 22/22 EV: 15 Int: 36 God: Cheibriados [******] Gold: 116 SH: 0 Dex: 31 Spells: 5/17 levels left rFire + . . SeeIn...

For comparison here's a roughly equal (scoring wise) game from main crawl: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/tasonir/morgue-tasonir-20140504-071821.txt Spicy: 3 runes, 58772 turns: 476k points. Main Crawl: 3 runes, 55355 turns: 1.94M points. There are other factors which go into scoring (your experience f...

And then the other half of the argument is just that after 25 turns, the .4hp/turn is larger than 20 Mana-as-health. And here I was thinking that 0.4 * 25 wasn't bigger than 20. Whoops. That'll be 50 turns for the regen to match the initial 20 mana-as-hp buffer, then. I think the post generally sti...

When I'm fighting an inv monster without SInv, I retreat to a corridor and then walk back and forth in that corridor. You don't even need to 'walk back and forth'. Ctrl+dir will swing in a direction, attacking a monster if it's there, and waiting on the spot if it's not. This is the method I use - ...

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