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That character, who died, brilliantly exploited several bugs in ways that have now been fixed -- basically he cloned Maurice when Maurice was carrying all sorts of awesome items (?acq, ring of robustness, etc) and repeated the process a couple hundred times. And then he died intentionally. With 270...

You have the 7th highest score for the current build on the server you played on, not the 7th highest scoring CDO game - Bart alone has 8 higher scores and he plays tiles exclusively. It's still a really good score, either way (69th all-time), and about three million higher than my best score. Also...

yeah dissolution can be a huge pain for a melee character, because he's going to spawn eyes and they will probably be out of immediate melee range of you. Not only that, but your standby panic button, Slouch, will not work on them since they have incredibly low speed (3). You can try your poison spi...

+18 / +18? On top of +5 AC, and slay dragons? /insert jaw dropping animation here. While it is a great weapon, and really fun to power up, the base damage is only 8 so it isn't really better than the more standard weapons like demon tridents or any 2 handed weapons...It does make a really, really f...

Being a terrible player, I've found it's much easier to play races which have high health. I figure if people can win with spriggans who have 150 hp, then my terrible tabbing through the entire game newbie self ought to be able to do it with someone who has 300 hp, right? <3 me some statue form ;)

Has anyone won a 15 rune Naga of Chie? Yes, twice. My second one I won just tonight is now the #7 high score on CDO :) I don't know why Chei is considered a weak god by so many, he's incredibly powerful. Yes, you can't use haste, get over it! Going for extended, the following spells are the "c...

I have a pretty good amount of experience with naga transmuters, this thread exploded, let me briefly reply to things I felt weren't answered completely. Statue form and flying stacks fine - I guess you mean it's just tengu's natural flight which gets surpressed? Because my naga transmuters have no ...

I'll keep that in mind. I doubt I had any scrolls at that point though, never having any way to protect them. Also, I forgot about the close call I had down on tar:7. I again had been shattering a wall to save some turns, and got very badly swamped...I slouched twice but most of the mobs were still ...

Vanquished Creatures Antaeus (Coc:7) Asmodeus (Geh:7) Gloorx Vloq (Pan) Mnoleg (Pan) the royal jelly (Slime:6) Ereshkigal (Tar:7) Dispater (Dis:7) Lom Lobon (Pan) Khufu (Tomb:2) 6 orbs of fire the Serpent of Hell (Geh:7) 22 greater mummies 12 ancient liches The ghost of moohaus the Impregnable, a g...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. 16878083 Tasonir the Cruiserweight Champion (level 27, 469/495 HPs) Began as a Naga Fighter on Apr 16, 2012. Was the Champion of Cheibriados (penitent). Escaped with the Orb ... and 15 runes on Apr 18, 2012! The game lasted 15:46:5...

Manual skill training is great - but you're right that he has no need to train armor, along with the rest of the suggestions. In general you only want to be training a spell school if you need to lower the failure rate of a spell you are using/will be using. If you know what you are going for later ...

Snake 5 : Alistair's Intoxication. What are you saying? The spell doesn't work on rPois monsters. Really? Why wouldn't it? It just eats intelligence and causes confusion. I thought it was fine against rPois, but bad against clarity. Of course, now don't do it, even if rPois isn't 100%, but still......

after the boots of running you have no right to complain, sorry ;) But seriously trog's gifts are more focused, since he only gives weapon gifts. He does seem to give less crap, but even he will give you weapons you have 0 skill in, ie, worthless junk 99% of the time. Oka's armor gifts aren't always...

The game has been a breeze up to now but now I can't seem to deal with Snake: 5 and dragons in Vault: 8. Am I supposed to scum for decks of destruction? Been trying summoning but my minions just getting chewed up. I get owned when I try and go toe to toe with strong stuff. Not sure what to do now. ...

On a wonderfully offtopic thought, I've always wanted iron dragons to leave hides. When enchanted it should be something like a crystal plate with reduced EV penalty, and no resistances. Maybe 14 ac, -5 ev, no resists? I can dream

We tell new players to not take advice from these sources because it is often bad. A lot of us actually do change factually incorrect wiki pages - but we can't touch the character guides and such because not only are they terrible, 4 times out of 5 someone is sitting on them who will revert every c...

Not one to let a little bug come between me and setting new combo high scores, I started up another naga... Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. Tasonir the Brawler (Naga Fighter) Turns: 40017, Time: 05:12:27 HP 190/190 AC 48 Str 31 XL: 22 Next: 33% MP 32/32 EV 1 Int 3...

updated the invocations page at least then, I should get around to checking other skill pages soon. I left MD in, the wiki generally likes supporting historical information, even though I'm not personally too fond of it.

It can generate, you can miss it, and it will generate again on future non-unique pan levels. You can always get it no matter how many times you have missed it. Just keep doing pan levels and explore them fully, or at least until you find the vault with the pan lord part of the level.

We're updating it every day! No really, here's the changelog: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges Averages around 10 or so updates a day lately; the goal of this post is to triple that! I've been checking all of the pages linked from the main page, and they should all b...

you have pretty much all the resistances you could ever want, and should go for it since you've already won 3 runes and haven't won 15. Get insulation for rElec if you can, and use necromutation when you're facing tormenting mobs, unless that immunity to negative energy counts torment (But I don't t...

Wow, I wish I had known that. Turns out that randart pearl armor was actually MUCH worse than a regular one, considering what happened. I really liked report #2:

This can lead to a death that could be rather annoying.

You're telling me

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. 1123718 Tasonir the Cruiserweight Champion (level 27, 265/265 (344) HPs) Began as a Naga Fighter on Apr 10, 2012. Was the Champion of Cheibriados. Drowned ... on Level 7 of Cocytus on Apr 15, 2012. The game lasted 14:44:52 (82868 t...

I've always found the ghoul rotten chunk messages to be hilarious.

"Wow! There is something tasty in your inventory. (slots j and k)"
"You smell decay. Yum-yum."

Such a more pleasant surprise than a boring message about your meat rotting away

I don't typically have a playstyle per class - I play melee who don't worship trog, so regardless of my background, I'm starting out melee and later on branching into support magic. For this kind of a build I go: weapon skill (I usually do unarmed, so I raise it to around 10, with more later - if yo...

Can we all at least agree that Lom Lobon is trivial?

Anyways if you guys want to keep discussing it we should probably make another thread, I don't want to get too pedantic in a YAVP

I guess my main problem with gloorx is that he has a lot of weaknesses which make it easier to dispatch him quickly*, while cerebov will wear down anyone over time, even if they can predict how it will go. He summons mobs who can torment, so you're still facing that if you don't have high powered ab...

To be honest I was worried this level would be *more* deadly to unholy characters. I think I overestimated that. The level is indeed dangerous, but survivable enough. All the mummy/ds/etc deaths I've watched in this level were avoidable ones, had they been played optimally (even ridiculous ones inv...

alright I admit I'm taking this way too seriously and I don't mean to offend, but I just loaded up cerebov v gloorx vloq in fight and cerebov didn't even take a scratch. Seriously

Wow. The Cerebov page is absolutely horrible. "arguably the worst foe in the game", lol. IMO they should provide some arguments to show that he is stronger than some others who are considerably worse (Gloorx Vloq anyone). I would argue he's the worst foe in the game. He's certainly a hell...

Ah, my mistake. Still, double school spells I usually consider to be roughly 1 level higher than their actual level

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. Tasonir the Brawler (Naga Fighter) Turns: 58916, Time: 08:54:38 HP 241/241 AC 45 Str 42 XL: 27 MP 5/43 EV 10 Int 34 God: Cheibriados [*****.] Gold 4756 SH 56 Dex 31 Spells: 14 memorised, 9 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : ...

well it's just something another player told me, I wasn't thinking of anything. If I get enough skill experience to spare I'll dump some into higher earth levels and try it.

I've been warned that shatter deals damage to yourself if you are in statue form? Is that true, how much is it, and is it also correct that non-statue form casters take 0 damage from shatter? Seems really counter intuitive to have two earth spells conflict with each other, and shatter does say it cr...

B - the -6 robe of Stokhlaxo (worn) {rElec rF+ rN+ MR Int+3} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp) Now the rng is just teasing . I actually ended up using something very similiar to that, in the end game no less, because I was desperate for the rF+. It was however, a cloak, so I still had melee pr...

Chaos is nasty, but the way I always knew to avoid tentacles is two fold: 1) In order for a player to summon it, it is a level EIGHT spell. Level 8 spells do not mess around. 2) You can run from them easily since they take time to come out. This puts them in a similar category to oklob plants: if it...

How fire resistant is he? Even fully fire resistant mobs still take damage from fire storm, I believe - it should be entirely possible to kill cerebov with fire storm. Perhaps not the best way, but possible. I'm just wondering if he appeared resistant because of his very high (650) health? Maybe I s...

The -1 int strikes me as amusing, and makes the armour even better

Also, I'm a melee naga of chei, so having blink this early on (found in orc) is considerably earlier than I'll be able to cast it.

Yeah - rC/rF for ice caves/volcano is definitely not needed, but it does make it considerably more risky. Drop either potions or scrolls depending, and then give it a shot. Taking down ice statues as a melee character with no rC is tough, but if you have > 100 hp it is possible. Still, I've lost a c...

I played the holy pan level on a naga, and it was pretty tough, but doable. I think I spent at least 30 minutes on it, though, it's huge and loaded with tough enemies. To the OP, yes, pearl dragons are -insane-. I had a possible risk of death as I blinked away one from one (no way to blink out of LO...

1) Chei doesn't suck
2) why is statue form and chei together dangerous? You'd be moving at about the same speed as a naga of chei, which is an awesome build I've 15 runed with.

You're going to have pretty terrible defenses for a very long time - it wouldn't be too much harder to try to go for statue form instead of blade hands. Still a great boost to damage, but gives you impressive defenses as well. Two drawbacks are finding the spellbook, and since it's transmutation/ear...

I found a -glowing- gold dragon armor AND a naga barding in a mini-vault on D:3, one tile away from each other. Sure, not quite D:1, but the barding too? I was in fact playing a naga. The funny part is since I had 18 str and I wanted to ID the armor, I wore both and ended up with -12 EV. The GDA tur...

I was starting up a lovely melee naga today, when I had the "good" fortune to come across a gold dragon armor and a naga barding, together, on d:3. The gold dragon armor was even glowing, so I just knew I had to wear ID it, even though I didn't have 27 strength. Turns out it was a cursed -...

the main reason I think minos are too strong are their win rates, and the removal of MD in .10 gave them a sizeable increase in aptitudes. The headbutt is fairly minor, but I thought it would be a reasonably small change to not overnerf them. Maybe that's poor design, though. And from the comments, ...

You don't really have any means to get away - I'd probably take a curing first, then try to fight out of it. If you want to, curing then speed, and then fight. Keep taking curings when your health is <15. Yes, quaffing curing during combat for health alone is a desperation move and a waste of resour...

really nice character, I've wanted to do ogres but it's just so tough to get them into dragon armor, and until then it's hard not dying :) You certainly could go tornado, but if you wanted it reliable you'd have to go back to a swamp/fire/ice/pearl dragon armor, I don't think you can cast it with GD...

Glowing meaning any brand? I'm not really sure you can avoid meleeing anything with a glowing weapon, as a melee character... Also, while it's annoying and remarkable when it happens, it is a 1 in 100 game occurance, it's not very likely. Honestly if I had a resist mutation amulet and flight I would...

So I'm trying to avoid spamming the forum, but this was just unfair ;) Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file. 87773 Tasonir the Brawler (level 15, -7/129 HPs) Began as a Naga Fighter on Apr 5, 2012. Was a High Priest of Cheibriados. Killed from afar by a hellion (29 dama...

mindlar wrote:
Mutations from glow have a 1 in 10 chance of being a random mutation instead of a random mutation.

I assume you mean a 1 in 10 chance of being random instead of being bad

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