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I think that's all bad design. Versatile races are more interesting, that's why flat aptitude races are popular. I realize that you're trying to make a race suited around a specific playstyle, but I don't see why you want to stop players from being able to play them any other way. As long as the ra...

dynast wrote:Wow, that automap font brought back memories i refuse to accept are mine.

You're not alone there, buddy

Make it so that you can only cast it if you'll bump up against a monster, who'd then get some status effect as a result. Perhaps short-lived confuse, like a guaranteed hit confusing touch?

Steel Neuron wrote:Please, please, make it so if you melee an orb of destruction with a blunt object, you have a chance to reflect it.

This feels so wrong, and yet so right

papilio wrote:Kill Dowan, butcher his corpse, wield the chunk and hit Duvessa with that.

And people still want to remove food from the game...

Anyhow, sometimes I like to bring Grinder along when I return with the orb to the exit. I think of the little guy as my new pet imp when I retire to my adventurer tower.

I often quaff mutation potions as soon as I find them, until I gain a healthy list of white and red muts. Then I try to win the game regardless. It's great fun, at least for me.

Hi, did you exit and restarted the mingw64.exe after each package install? (I'm assuming you installed the c dev tools as specified in the install notes, ofc)

Steel Neuron wrote:It does actually start with a fedora right now... It's just a normal hat with the fedora tile, but still

Then I clearly ought to test it. I'll give some feedback later.

dynast wrote:Nightstalker is a awful gimmick though.

Combine it with either antenae or ash and you'll be able to detect anything before it enters your los. Great for stealthy chars.

Because of ghouls and perhaps trolls, I'd leave the meat chunks mechanic unchanged, just make them inedible unless you are carnivorous. It would also make sense from a flavor perspective (sorry for the pun). As for vamps, I'd probably make blood potions permanent and purchasable in batches from food...

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pedritolo wrote:I'd agree with this, except for those lovely mutagenic chunks, so one may freely partake in the obscene mutation roulette.

if this were important to the game you could just increase !mut spawn rate

Sure, as long as it gave the same overall amount as you'd get from chunks.

duane wrote:I was skeptical about this at first, but I have to admit that it's a lot of fun. Still... you have to start the archaeologist with a whip. C'mon, you know you want to.

Whip & fedora hat is mandatory imo. It means creating the new hat type, which shouldn't be obtainable by any other means.

I'd agree with this, except for those lovely mutagenic chunks, so one may freely partake in the obscene mutation roulette. I'd also only slightly increase the availability of perma food, if at all. IMO, being driven by a proper hunger clock (and not just a slight nudge as it presently stands) would ...

Steel Neuron wrote:I have a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I think DCSS would benefit a lot from making an extra effort when about to remove something and instead focus on reworking

Now that's just crazy talk!

papilio wrote:That depends on what metric function you use in your topological space.

Just to be that guy: Not all topological spaces have their topology derived from a distance, and some just can't be metrizable.

I really like it, it's a different mechanic with interesting pros and cons. Good job.

Too late, they've read it by now.

galbolle wrote:DDs start the game at XL3; they don't have HPs; any (shaved) damage they take is deduced from XPs. They die if they ever reach 0 XP. No HP, hence no healing.

That'd make them unstoppable past midgame, no?

nago wrote: no one should ever ever wear it.

I'd probably wear it in slime, tbh

Of all the threads to zombify, I vote this one as the most worthy.

I like the idea as well. Maybe have the aptitudes a bit lower to compensate for the huge skill boost the manual gives. Overall it sounds like a great concept.

It does not matter if I like to fight rune guards, my point is that apportation + teleportation trick is too cheap and does not require any significant investment especially by extended standards. So is it ok then if I use a cblink to pick up the rune directly once it enters my los (instead of usin...

Floodkiller wrote:often given to enemies that are otherwise completely popcorn at that stage of the game.

I see, it's a matter of perspective. I treat neqos and shinning eyes as extremely dangerous foes. Not at all popcorn. And they are dangerous because of their malmutate. I fear them and fight accordingly.

Here's some fun (IMO) conduct challenges: Food challenges (Easy): - Win with a troll of gozag - Win with a ghoul of gozag - Win with a vampire of gozag Medium/Hard: - Same as easy, but with 15 runes + full zig - Get only the lair runes and then get the orb, without entering orc, vaults, hell, pan, a...

TrumpTrain wrote:This whole thread is a meme.

Whoa!

Spoiler: show

I'm pretty sure most of us at least once tried playing with a HOMo, just to see if we liked it.

True fact: Gallant grew up to became a very successful career politician.

Jivya certainly isn't the best choice for zigs, but it would have prevented that paralysis. But yeah, without the health on kills, it would be pretty hard.

The unique and clearly defining and fun feature of a -2 headgear has already been taken by hat of the alchemist. I, newly self-declared memeforcer of the memeocracy of tavern and in accordance with the legal principle of "rule of meme", hereby declare this proposal OBSOLETE. May Zin grant...

Also, while in lich form, death's door won't work, and you can't quaff. If you were in distress and wanted to do either, i like it that there is a strategic cost of 1 turn for reverting to human form.

Careful with casting darkness a lot early on, it has a large hunger cost which, for a sp, is a bit of a problem.
As for regen, use it as you would for any other archetype - early and often.

removeelyvilon wrote:the stupid redundancy meme. Or obsolete meme, or uniqueness meme or design space meme, technical limitations meme... it goes by many names but it remains ugly all the same.

I hate them all with a fiery passion, but I disagree that they are all the same. Each has its own colorful brand of stupid.

mattlistener wrote:Time-limited monsters, which give you something good if you kill them within a time limit of spotting them (thinking Treasure Goblin).

I'd love to see that shit in crawl.

If you wish to play a SpEn and win a 3 rune game, some spells can really help: - confuse. Your bread and butter. - passwall. great for setting up stabs, and to make getaways. - invisibility. Very useful for the right kind of foes, especially in combination with: - silence. If someone wakes up and sc...

Nino wrote:Should there be fewer ID/remove curse scrolls? Should cursed items be more dangerous?

Yes! Someone gets it.

Is there anyone else who thinks freezing cloud is not an insanely great spell? IMO, it's a good spell, probably even worth the high exp investment, if you can't find better spells. Particularly good if you can get some summons (ice beast) between you and the cloud. It used to be awesome before the ...

I like the idea in principle, but: being a staff, it's only good as a melee weapon in the early game. This means that later on, it would be used only as an evocable source of silence: Wield staff, evoke, wield wep. This is undesirable, ofc, therefore the silence effect would have to go away instantl...

Chess should really be upgraded to RTS, just look at all recent AAA titles.

That's from the list of top killers , I chose the mutated uniques: killer / kills Gastronok the shard shrike / 40 One of those's mine; I didn't want to kill it, but I wanted its hat. I read a vuln scroll and spammed poly. I even survived the shard's 1st encounter, but I just had to come back and tr...

Whether I win the game in style, or die in even more style, I promise I'll be seeing this story through to the end. Stay tuned for more! Thanks, I enjoyed the read, it brought me back to earlier times when playing the game was actually exciting. You should write more. Btw, weren't you informed that...

Utis wrote:In the early game you often have no choice but to move a pawn. Which is tedious. Pawns should be removed.

Queen is OP, it should be removed. Not to mention that its job is already done by other two pieces, bishop and rook.

dynast wrote:i would rather play a danger assessment minigame than a chess minigame.

I think this sums up the basic divide. I also find myself in the former category.

Remove was clearly the winner, ahead of lovely contenders such as "design space" or "optimal gameplay". Wait, those are both two words... argh

Indeed, I'll stay with 0.17 as well. Best version so far, the game went downhill from there.

For my father, Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesian War; he misplaced his copy, and I've been meaning to read it as well.
For mom, maybe The Travels of Mendes Pinto.
Can't go wrong with the classics, imo

GF, I'm not sure if you understand the context in which that particular meme has been used lately.

The earliest human references in a tolkian context come from tolkian works, and we're trying to get away from using tolkien references in crawl. Yes.

Very well then

This thread should be renamed "Remove Early Game"

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