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danr wrote:After I posted that, I found Pikel on one of those levels as well, and a player ghost on the other.

Maybe you shouldn't have dove so deep!

Just checked my log: There was a glowing shapeshifter on that level. So the zombie must have been a glowing shapeshifter who must have shifted into GOB or something else mutagenic. Sneaky! Mara's still a jerk-face.

What I am hearing is that people don't like how much space all the ammo tends to take up. Sure don't! While it makes sense to me to have a cost for carrying a bunch of ammo, weight limits should be good for that. Getting rid of enchantments and instead introducing materials as proxies would clean u...

It could be, but I cleared the level later on and it was totally danger-free. Most likely, Mara's code just switches tiles and I'm very confused. But it was just L18 so I hope there's not a mutagentic monster around every corner.

Is there any method to Okawaru's gifts (aside from what is detailed in learndb and crawlwiki?) He's been giving my MfCr really nice RandArt armour but lots of polearms of reaching, which are sadly useless. (I'm wielding a +1+2 trident at the moment.) Is there anything in Oka's gifting code that says...

That wouldn't really be that helpful because what's really important is speed * accuracy * damage. Now, I suppose you could roll those up into a single "power" descriptor which would be something like the avg. damage/turn calculated by my spreadsheet. You're right! Would such a the "...

I swear I just got mutated by an illusion! As I was approaching a zombie (stone giant?), I saw Mara in the distance, was quickly misled, and ran away from her and toward the nearest staircase. As I'm running, a Giant Orange Brain appears behind me, where I would have been expecting a zombie, had I n...

You only need one book to memorize a spell, and unless you're forgetting tons of spells for a rebuild, it's not like you ever have the points needed to memorize very many at a time. Are people picking up huge stacks of books because they don't know which one houses the spell you want? You can find ...

Just an orc knight, I think.

Perhaps: "Your cursed items glow momentarily" or "The darkness lifts from your cursed items."

What about using accuracy/damage/speed ranks among weapons held? Sabre: 3/1/3 Dagger: 2/2/2 Quick blade: 1/3/1 Picking up a dagger of speed might change it to: Sabre: 4/1/4 Dagger: 3/3/3 Quick blade: 1/4/2 -1 +1 Dagger of speed: 2/2/1 Yes, they're numbers, but ordinal not cardinal. It would solve a ...

I'd support showing current stats as well. This interface is looking great! I know there's been a discussion of this recently, but here's my two cents. The number of attacks per turn (speed) is a more intuitive measure (to me!) than delay: Speed = 10 / delay. The trouble with delay is that a delay o...

Trunk!!!

I could have gotten some from a sewer and others from a bailey. I've definitely gotten a few potions of gain str/dex from a bailey before.

Let me know if I can help.

I have no negative mutations. I guess I'll go for it and put on any rMut items I find.

"You feel that something helped you" How about "You feel something helping you."? That's simpler but to some extent it suggests that you will be helped into the near future. I guess it depends on whether messages report on what has just occurred (at the end of an action) or on w...

My L13 MFCr just id'ed 8 potions of gain intelligence. (From a bailey, I think.)

First, that's insane.

Second, is there any reason not to quaff them all right now? (Do the good players sometimes wait for an rMut item?)

I'm native and I'm confident about "has helped". Just "You feel that something helped you" would be more streamlined. No need for "as if/though" at all. More colorful and precise (but not a nod to Rogue, if I recall) is "A darkness has been lifted from your equipme...

I love this game but it's weird. Are devs thinking of making str and dex more relevant for melee damage and to-hit? Yes! I am quite bothered by this too and will certainly campaign to add this to the 0.9 agenda. Along with higher effect of weapon skills on damage too. He still gifts junk though. At...

I think this all comes from my love of Omega. One class, one race, but each game you choose "guilds" (thieves, gladiator, sorcerers, paladins, gods, etc.) to join, some mutually exclusive, that do the same thing as backgrounds but IMHO much more elegantly.

I'm having a really hard time seeing any even slight downside so I'll add it to the Wiki unless I hear otherwise. Reading scrolls and drinking potions off the floor would also be convenient but could slightly affect game play. The only example I can think of it mummies, but their potion decaying cur...

So you just wait until you get paralyzed and then read one of your 50 scrolls of teleportation? I kinda like it because it differentiates paralysis from sleep. (And it's not a terrible model for how paralysis works in this world.) But it's probably too powerful as is, so other aspects of paralysis ...

Theres plenty of ways to improve this without eliminating the hive. My personal favorite idea is to provide alternative branches to hive much like the alternatives that exist between swamp/snake/shoals. Yeah it should be Hive/Spider/Ants&Beetles I'd like it if I were offered both but could only...

Heh. I just had this happen to me as well. I'm playing with a DSFE who go the stealth mutation - so he's a stabby / caster for now. :) Does the distortion effect kick in after the main damage, like with flaming and others? If so, distortion could be a wonderful weapon for a stabber relying on sleep...

I hope the new Okawaru plays well.

If any case, your comment suggests that the more primal issue is not balancing Oka but rather that str and dex could more forcefully affect combat.

I love this game but it's weird.

Are devs thinking of making str and dex more relevant for melee damage and to-hit?

Part of the frustration is that paralysis is much more dangerous in trunk than in 0.71. Before 0.8 trunk, I don't ever remember losing a character to paralysis. In trunk, I have died to paralysis more often than to Sig. It'll take some getting used to. Many players will have a sad story or two befor...

Maybe even "has helped", since the effect is once-off, not continuous.

Re ammo: Making these four changes together would reduce the clutter: (1) Double the effective power of ammo enchantments. So +1 bolts would do damage as +2 bolts do currently. (2) Half the effectiveness of scrolls of enchant weapon (by whatever means). (3) Cap the ammo enchantment at 4 or 5. (Or, a...

Here's how a high-level DEWz (many spellbooks, low strength) might memorize a new spell. (1) drop most of your stuff so you have room to pick up spellbooks. (2) pick up spellbooks. (3) memorize (4) drop spellbooks. (5) pick up stuff. If spells could be memorized from the spellbooks on the floor, the...

Previous comments are on the mark. One thing to add: When I first opened crawl and saw... what? 28 classes? And almost as many races? My first impression was bad. What kind of game needs to give so many options, when the good stuff should happen in gameplay? (My old-time RL favorite is Omega, where ...

Interesting! I hadn't thought of those other options. Seems like ignoring evaporation would make for a challenge.

Have you (or anyone else around here) tried a Stalker in trunk? A SESt might do well branching into earth conjurations or necromancy.

I found the Mace of Variability ( http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=List_of_unrands#.28up_to.29_.2B16.2C_.2B16_Mace_of_Variability ) once early on. Turns out it's not hard to keep it near its max enchantment levels just by walking around with it when the enchantments are low and then unwei...

On the second point, I like how ranged monsters switch to melee attacks in melee range. This is somewhat stupid behaviour on their part, but it creates tactical opportunities for the player, which is always a good thing. Shoot, I must be missing the tactical opportunities. Might charging with a DEF...

That no one else mentioned this make me think I'm wrong, but... I'd train up bows. Grab the best elf bow (or longbow), enchant it using scrolls of enchant weapon I, II, III and vorpalize, then pile-enchant arrows (using scrolls of enchant weapon I and II) by weilding them all. I've found that I can ...

In my opinion, it would be hard to make kiting centaurs fun. If centaurs and yaktaurs kited, melee-oriented characters might need to be buffed. It would be easy to let them shoot arrows at you when adjacent. And it I hope it wouldn't be too hard to make them approach more intelligently by keeping a ...

I think it'd be convenience to be able to memorize spells from spellbooks on the floor.

I like that fulsome distillation and evaporate are now in the Stalker starting spellbook. If that sticks, I could see good arguments for transmuters getting another transformation and a utility spell place of fulsome distillation and evaporate. There are two spells that I always want to find as a tr...

I love the change, too. It's amazing. Good work on it. Another idea for an AI change for missile-bearing monsters: make them charge to square from which they can fire when there's another monster in the way. It's too easy to use one centaur as a meat shield -- I should have to use two! Current behav...

Heres' how I died: 464841 Koberz the Slayer (level 27, -5/236 HPs) Began as a Kobold Berserker on Feb 2, 2011. Was a High Priest of Trog. Slain by a Cacodemon (14 damage) ... summoned by an ancient lich ... on Level 8 of the Vaults on Feb 3, 2011. The game lasted 08:25:20 (130273 turns). Koberz the ...

Might crosstraining penalties -- or better yet spell power and/or success penalties -- for tertiary, quaternary, etc schools work? So an FE that has high conjurations and fire skills would have a small penalty on the third school, and larger penalties on the fourth school. It might be tricky to bala...

All this hubbub over sticky flame! The stickiness of the spell does fit much better with shorter ranges. It would be even more flavorful if it worked like confusing touch, but that would really limit who can use it. I thought the "caster can't move" suggestion was nice. If sticky flame ret...

Any chance devs would consider lowering the chance of being paralyzed (a second time) when already paralyzed? Most recently, an ancient lich took my 220hp character by casting paralyze, then summon demon hordes, then paralyze a few dozen times. I don't mind losing 150hp in a go -- that's why I have ...

Have the rules on how monsters sleep/paralyze characters changed in 0.8 ?

I lost my last three 0.8 characters, two of them l27, to sleep or paralysis. In the past, this had been quite rare for me. Is this just a string of bad luck (or stupidity) or have the rules changed?

I'm not sure how to balance jellyfish realism with gameplay. Interesting questions. A "realist" approach would be to make jellyfish immobile, invisible and tentacles -- they don't attack, they just paralyze. I think this would be terrific and make them a bit like ballistomycetes Like paral...

I think that Jellyfish should have tentacles, like kraken. Maybe just one square would be enough.

Also, type-A marine biologists will tell you that it's not a jelly fish. Sea jelly, jelly, medusozoa or medusa might be more appropriate (and more colorful!).

Wow, this is great. Thanks for all the advice and resources! Spriggan aptitudes are so good in spellcasting, stealth and dodging (with fighting being the only other skill that I'd want very high) that I can imagine trying to raise another skill. Kneeling to Kiku and investing in necromancy for death...

I'm trying to figure out the training advice on the wiki: 1) When you hit level 2, learn Ensorcelled Hibernation. Turn off everything except Stabbing and work on training that by sleeping monsters and stabbing them. 2) When Stabbing reaches 6, turn off Stabbing and turn on Stealth, Dodging, Spellcas...

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