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Monday, 31st December 2018, 15:23

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Generate killer bees later

Replies: 49

Views: 2873

Re: Generate killer bees later

Orbs of Fire on Depths:1 would actually be more reasonable than Bees on Dungeon:2, because by that point you likely would have some tools on hand you could use to escape.

Thursday, 27th December 2018, 02:14

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Abomination player species

Replies: 7

Views: 731

Re: Abomination player species

I actually like micromanaging my hunger state as a Vampire, except that the closer you get to Bloodless, the harder it is to lose nutrition. I guess it's not for everyone, but what challenge species is? That said, I don't want to encourage players to save monsters for later consumption (or to adopt ...

Wednesday, 26th December 2018, 23:51

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Abomination player species

Replies: 7

Views: 731

Re: Abomination player species

Yes, Vampire is one of my favorite species, but the current version IMO is not as good as older versions, because the nutrition states are so lopsided. It used to be that low nutrition was good for sneaky stabbing and high nutrition was good for sustained fighting. Now, low nutrition is good for sne...

Wednesday, 26th December 2018, 22:57

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Abomination player species

Replies: 7

Views: 731

Abomination player species

I propose Abomination as a challenge species with unique strategic considerations to add to Crawl's variety and replay value. Features: Cannot worship good gods, Fedhas, or Trog Cannot become berserk Inherent rank 1 evolution mutation Chance to lose a mutation instead of gaining is reduced to -1% pe...

Saturday, 22nd December 2018, 18:36

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Generate killer bees later

Replies: 49

Views: 2873

Re: Generate killer bees later

From my experience, the nets delay a bee by 1 turn per net, and when you consider that it takes a turn to throw a net, nets really are not a viable escape tool vs. bees.

Friday, 21st December 2018, 00:34

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Generate killer bees later

Replies: 49

Views: 2873

Re: Generate killer bees later

One bee would be relatively reasonable, but I think bees only generate in swarms. And yes, I'm not saying there's *never* a situation where a character can survive encountering a bee swarm on D:2, in fact if I could choose which consumables to have randomly found by that point in the game, I'm certa...

Thursday, 20th December 2018, 00:03

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Generate killer bees later

Replies: 49

Views: 2873

Re: Generate killer bees later

You'd have to be pretty lucky to get a consumable that would save you from a bee swarm before finishing D:2, and if you stayed close enough to stairs to be able to escape the much faster than average bees, you'd likely never discover a stairwell down to D:3. Most characters do not start with nets, a...

Wednesday, 19th December 2018, 17:54

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Generate killer bees later

Replies: 49

Views: 2873

Generate killer bees later

Most characters on D:2 won't have the tools to successfully fight or flee from a swarm of killer bees. This scenario involves no meaningful decisions and no relevance to player skill, and as such does not meet the design goals.

Wednesday, 19th December 2018, 17:12

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Experimental branch: Known Traps

Replies: 97

Views: 8226

Re: Experimental branch: Known Traps

My folder name contains 0.23-a0-577, so I guess I should update. Thanks.

Wednesday, 19th December 2018, 02:31

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Experimental branch: Known Traps

Replies: 97

Views: 8226

Re: Experimental branch: Known Traps

I liked the dispersal traps until I stabbed a sleeping Sonja who happened to be generated on one, meaning I couldn't collect the loot. I approve of the revealed traps idea in general, but at this point Ashenzari should really be either reworked or removed. A big part of the god's identity is providi...

Monday, 17th December 2018, 05:13

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Gorgons: A New Enemy for the Snake Pit?

Replies: 23

Views: 1415

Re: Gorgons: A New Enemy for the Snake Pit?

Not every threat needs to work against every character build, though. The whole point of having a variety of threats is so that if a character is built to negate some of them, there will still be others that are harder for it to deal with. I do agree with your point about the ranged ability giving m...

Monday, 17th December 2018, 02:21

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Gorgons: A New Enemy for the Snake Pit?

Replies: 23

Views: 1415

Re: Gorgons: A New Enemy for the Snake Pit?

It's more that I just think gaze attacks aren't very interesting, and between that and how the existing petrification attacks are ranged, *if* a new one were to be added, melee would make for better variety. Btw, if melee status effects are almost never good because they're too easy to avoid, does t...

Sunday, 16th December 2018, 05:00

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Gorgons: A New Enemy for the Snake Pit?

Replies: 23

Views: 1415

Re: Gorgons: A New Enemy for the Snake Pit?

if Snake should get a new petrifying monster, especially a fast one, I'd rather see a petrifying bite that bypasses magic resistance than another petrifying gaze that you render harmless with magic resistance.

Sunday, 16th December 2018, 04:50

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Power spiral

Replies: 23

Views: 2234

Re: Power spiral

I don't think portal vaults even need timers, really; there's still the fact that they close when you leave in order to pressure players into deciding how much of it they're willing to risk trying to clear. Also, the strategic decision about when a character should risk entering one is more interest...

Thursday, 13th December 2018, 16:40

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Replies: 35

Views: 2553

Re: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

It's true in theory, but not so much in practice... particularly when you consider that not every background even starts with spells. The degree to which Spellcraft is trained can have a huge impact on the hunger costs of spells, and investing skill xp into magic schools instead of Spellcraft can ge...

Sunday, 9th December 2018, 20:45

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Revised^n Report on the god Nemelex

Replies: 52

Views: 5820

Re: Revised^n Report on the god Nemelex

One change I would still make is to greatly increase the number of destruction cards compared to summoning/escape - by their nature, a single destruction card does less than a single summoning/escape card. Currently the weights are 5:4:2 destruction:summoning:escape, which is 46%:36%:18%. I think i...

Tuesday, 4th December 2018, 14:25

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Replies: 35

Views: 2553

Re: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

I like CBoE in theory, but I never end up using it in practice. The idea of gambling on MP recovery is appealing, especially when average results become more favorable with increased skill investment, but the confusion and INT damage are much bigger deterrents now that amulets of clarity and rings o...

Monday, 3rd December 2018, 20:28

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Replies: 35

Views: 2553

Re: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

+1 to duvessa's advice, and I'll add that I make a point to chop up at least one corpse at the end of every fight that leaves one, regardless of my nutrition level, and that I generally don't eat a ration until I'm at least nearly starving, if not starving, now that it only takes 1 turn to eat a rat...

Monday, 3rd December 2018, 17:02

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Replies: 35

Views: 2553

Re: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Using Necromutation to circumvent spell hunger strikes me as highly inadvisable. If you can't find or acquire a staff of energy, +INT gear and Spellcasting (which any magic user that cares enough about MP to consider using a CBoE should want to train anyway for the increases to max MP and global spe...

Sunday, 2nd December 2018, 06:06

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Merge Long and Short Blades

Replies: 12

Views: 1116

Re: Merge Long and Short Blades

But with ripostes, the frequency of procs scales with the number of melee attackers. Using faster weapons can't replicate that scaling, and moreover, choosing a weapon that you can swing faster often involves sacrificing damage done per hit (and, consequently, in some cases, the chance of proc'ing a...

Sunday, 2nd December 2018, 05:24

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Merge Long and Short Blades

Replies: 12

Views: 1116

Re: Merge Long and Short Blades

Okay, it appears I did misremember one point... apparently the chance to trigger a riposte is not tied to the Long Blades skill (though, of course, the chance of actually connecting with a riposte swing is). Maybe more people would appreciate the riposte mechanic if the proc chance scaled with long ...

Sunday, 2nd December 2018, 04:08

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Merge Long and Short Blades

Replies: 12

Views: 1116

Re: Merge Long and Short Blades

That idea never occurred to me, but when I requested permission to be able to edit the wiki, I never got a reply, so thoughts of contributing to the wiki haven't exactly been on my mental radar.

Sunday, 2nd December 2018, 03:09

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Merge Long and Short Blades

Replies: 12

Views: 1116

Re: Merge Long and Short Blades

I don't know why anyone would think they can add 10 EV and start dishing out mad riposte damage, but if people actually think that, then that's all the more reason to put the actual chance a monster has to hit you in the log. Again, if you're relying solely on Dodging, you're going to have a bad tim...

Saturday, 1st December 2018, 21:04

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Merge Long and Short Blades

Replies: 12

Views: 1116

Re: Merge Long and Short Blades

I seldom even find long blades near the dungeon entrance, but if one of my spellcasters did find one and wasn't worried about it being cursed, I would probably equip it until I found something better. In the early game, unskilled melee attacks aren't even worthless (at least, not against everything ...

Saturday, 1st December 2018, 19:57

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Merge Long and Short Blades

Replies: 12

Views: 1116

Re: Merge Long and Short Blades

Short blades are already OP when used correctly; giving short blade stabbing bonuses to long blades would just be overkill. Building characters around riposte is not a newb trap; the first character that I actually bothered to win the game with was a riposte-oriented skald. Ripostes aren't limited t...

Saturday, 1st December 2018, 06:49

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Replies: 35

Views: 2553

Re: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

As someone who has also had an autoexplore-into-paralysis death, I agree that they're rare, but I think part of that rarity comes from players generally prioritizing AC over EV/SH, which is at least in part motivated by the desire to survive paralysis. Funneling players into a single strategy hurts ...

Saturday, 1st December 2018, 04:21

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Replies: 35

Views: 2553

Re: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

I consider the CBoE + lichform to be a very niche example of a more widespread problem, which is that instant total loss of player control is entirely non-interactive, and an exceptionally unsatisfying way for a run to end. In fact, I'd say that the CBoE + lichform is probably the most excusable exa...

Saturday, 1st December 2018, 02:38

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Replies: 35

Views: 2553

Re: Necromutation, Curing & Confusion

Wands of healing wouldn't help you if you get confused in lichform, as you can't zap while confused. The removal of amulets of clarity is what really hurt, but lichform characters at least have an option for prevention that mummies don't... they can play mutation roulette in hopes of getting the Cla...

Tuesday, 27th November 2018, 06:25

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Change manuals for gnolls

Replies: 34

Views: 2875

Re: Change manuals for gnolls

To which the correct answer is almost always "no", because if the skill is worth having, it's worth training even without a manual.

Monday, 26th November 2018, 18:02

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Change manuals for gnolls

Replies: 34

Views: 2875

Re: Change manuals for gnolls

Option 4: Remove manuals from the game entirely. If you're training a skill, you carry the manual... if not, you don't. This is a complete no-brainer decision. At best you could argue that in the rare case where a desirable manual is generated in a shop, the player has to make a decision about when ...

Friday, 9th November 2018, 19:34

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Translocations

Replies: 58

Views: 4094

Re: Remove Translocations

That reminds me of a post I saw here a while back but can't seem to find now. Basically, someone tried playing a game making excessive use of exclusions to minimize the number of unique tiles stepped on as a trap avoidance strategy and after winning reported the strategy to be effective but painfull...

Friday, 9th November 2018, 14:33

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Allie command Stand here.

Replies: 9

Views: 1042

Re: Allie command Stand here.

If you ordered the allies to stand next to a single-space door, and the allies don't move to make room for each other to get closer, then a single command would get them to line up next to the door properly, but what about a 2-space door? Whichever space you picked, an ally would move from the oppos...

Friday, 9th November 2018, 05:42

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Translocations

Replies: 58

Views: 4094

Re: Remove Translocations

The trap avoidance argument makes sense for those with enough patience to not rely on auto-explore to map levels, but even the idea of preventing an occasional trap-induced death is not enough incentive for me to manually explore. Starvation and piety decay from characters looping around levels seve...

Friday, 9th November 2018, 03:30

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Translocations

Replies: 58

Views: 4094

Re: Remove Translocations

I just can't get behind that reasoning. I'd say it was worth it back when monsters could take items you'd seen from the ground and use them against you, but now, spending 1 MP to pick up an item a bit earlier just seems wasteful. Grabbing items from within the sight radius of some dangerous enemy I ...

Thursday, 8th November 2018, 19:05

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Sif Muna memorization

Replies: 4

Views: 538

Re: Sif Muna memorization

Sif's amnesia ability is useful for changing your selected spells before entering a new area, but does nothing to allow a player react to a situation in progress (unless spell memorization was recently adjusted to no longer be a several turn, interruptable process). FR, give Sif Muna a "cast fr...

Thursday, 8th November 2018, 18:54

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Translocations

Replies: 58

Views: 4094

Re: Remove Translocations

The way you worded the OP makes it sound like there are only a few decent Translocation spells that should be preserved, which I disagree with. I know there are a number of Translocations spells that some players consider useless, but which spells are deemed useless vary from player to player, where...

Thursday, 8th November 2018, 18:05

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Allie command Stand here.

Replies: 9

Views: 1042

Re: Allie command Stand here.

Will allies enter travel restricted areas? If not, then excluding the doorway in question seems like a simple solution to the bottleneck micromanagement issue and might generally be useful at controlling the degree to which allies draw aggro. I'm not sure how to handle the situation of a crimson imp...

Thursday, 8th November 2018, 17:29

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Sif Muna memorization

Replies: 4

Views: 538

Sif Muna memorization

***** ability, instantly memorize a spell from the library at the cost of nutrition and piety. Sif Muna worshipers are especially likely to hit the hard caps on spell memorization, meaning that the choice of which spells to memorize for any particular location become quite important. While these dec...

Thursday, 8th November 2018, 16:46

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Change jewellery (P)UT key into (W)EAR key

Replies: 21

Views: 1455

Re: Change jewellery (P)UT key into (W)EAR key

Currently, the '%' key brings up a character information screen that allows players to interact with their equipped items (but apparently not to equip items). Why not change the binding to 'E' for Equip and rework the hotkeys on that screen to consistently refer to the equipment slot rather than the...

Thursday, 8th November 2018, 16:26

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove Translocations

Replies: 58

Views: 4094

Re: Remove Translocations

I think the only problem with the Translocations school is that it's so weak in the early game. Apportation, the only level 1 spell, is pure utility which many players will rarely, if ever, want to use. Blink requires careful positioning and use of terrain to get it from being borderline suicidal to...

Thursday, 1st November 2018, 01:59

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Suggestion: Make ID scrolls much rarer

Replies: 29

Views: 2337

Re: Suggestion: Make ID scrolls much rarer

The identify game is only interesting in early on when items like amulet of harm, potion of mutation, and other major inconveniences still lurk. By the time a character gets to Vaults:5, chances are good they're only using identify scrolls on a subset of artefacts they find, but initially there are ...

Saturday, 29th September 2018, 22:48

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Kobolds are just worse deep elves

Replies: 47

Views: 5687

Re: Kobolds are just worse deep elves

Kobolds are more suited to Artificer than Deep Elves, if nothing else... though I haven't been interested in Artificer ever since decks became Invocations-based....

Saturday, 29th September 2018, 22:09

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Jiyva altar should be guaranteed at L:6

Replies: 2

Views: 765

Re: Jiyva altar should be guaranteed at L:6

I'm pretty sure that's not the reason, as Jiyva ceases to exist if you kill TRJ, and an altar is often found right outside the Slime Pits.... It's generally more practical to collect the items you want and then switch to Jiyva once your mutations start getting out of hand, anyway. I often pick Gozag...

Saturday, 29th September 2018, 14:18

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Don't charge MP for cancelled spells

Replies: 1

Views: 427

Don't charge MP for cancelled spells

If you try to cast a dangerous spell, the game warns you and asks for confirmation... but only after taking your MP. I can't think of any good reason why the MP should be charged even if you choose not to attempt the spell cast, so I propose that the confirmation prompt should occur first, and only ...

Thursday, 19th July 2018, 19:28

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Stack Five alternative

Replies: 35

Views: 2070

Re: Stack Five alternative

Doubling your damage output is not exactly the same as being able to handle twice as many enemies at a time. Even if you can kill twice as many in the same amount of time, the 2X enemies will still be able to do more damage to you during that time than the 1X enemies would be able to. (I'm not going...

Thursday, 19th July 2018, 18:34

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Replies: 20

Views: 2336

Re: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Well, I can't blame you for thinking that. Even I didn't expect it to work very well until I actually tried it.

Thursday, 19th July 2018, 14:28

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Replies: 20

Views: 2336

Re: remove Leda's Liquefaction

What do you mean by "reliably and consistently"? If you mean a character that uses Leda's in every fight once it's available, I'd say that's a character that's played poorly. If you mean a character that makes effective use of Leda's in situations where it makes sense to cast, I wouldn't m...

Thursday, 19th July 2018, 03:43

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Replies: 20

Views: 2336

Re: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Again, I don't advise using Leda's to kite. Sometimes Prism kiting is the superior strategy (especially against ranged threats), but there are also situations where it's advantageous to not have to kite. If you're going to be setting off loud explosions, being able to stand on a staircase and corral...

Wednesday, 18th July 2018, 22:49

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Replies: 20

Views: 2336

Re: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Right, that's why I like to lay down a wall with Conjure Flame first, and mix in other forms of damage like Fulminant Prisms. The extra turns that Leda's buys are perfect for mixing in other spells. Gell's Gravitas is the same, you won't get any decent damage out of it if there's just 1 or 2 monster...

Wednesday, 18th July 2018, 18:52

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: remove Leda's Liquefaction

Replies: 20

Views: 2336

Re: remove Leda's Liquefaction

I don't recommend using Leda's as a substitute for Swiftness. For one thing, it slows the player's speed as well, though on average to a lesser degree than it slows monsters. For another, the gradually decreasing radius means that after a while, the player will still be burdened with the speed penal...
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