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Friday, 15th February 2013, 14:28

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Y.A.S.D: CeHu of Oka

Replies: 12

Views: 1503

Re: CIP: CeHu

Disable bow, there's no point to train it further than 22, like any other melee skill, with Oka: heroism is so cheap you can happily spam in every fight against non popcorn enemies - and you should have reached min delay anyway. For now train armour and fighting - I believe the former is more impor...

Friday, 15th February 2013, 14:03

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Y.A.S.D: CeHu of Oka

Replies: 12

Views: 1503

Y.A.S.D: CeHu of Oka

I was lucky to find many arrows on the first floors but their number is decreasing all the time. I used some melee vs early monsters but I am not sure it is safe now. What should I train now? Bows up to 27 and then fighting? Or get some Polearms/Unarmed? Should I enchant Flaming Longbow I just got f...

Friday, 15th February 2013, 13:40

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Wands: how to use?

Replies: 44

Views: 8088

Re: Wands: how to use?

Thank you for the tips, guys! My level 11 CeHu has just killed Nessos at D11 with Wand of Confusion. I had no Blink spell and met him in a large open room so running away was not an option I believe. I tried the wand twice but it was resisted. At this time I was down to 25 HP so I had to use a potio...

Friday, 15th February 2013, 11:20

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP - my second win (formerly CIP - another MiBe)

Replies: 27

Views: 2056

Re: CIP - another MiBe

Drink potion of invisibilty, agility, speed, might and go downstairs to Vault 8. This is how I did it with my MiBe recently. If getting low on HP, you can always go upstairs though it is unlikely to happen.

Friday, 15th February 2013, 07:16

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD- From The Frying Pan into... the Frying Pan

Replies: 18

Views: 1505

Re: YASD- From The Frying Pan into... the Frying Pan

Indeed Repel Missles isn't that great vs missiles since it decreases to-hit to a random amount between 0% and 100% of original value.

Friday, 15th February 2013, 07:03

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP -> YAVP: SpEn of Ash (first 15-rune win!)

Replies: 47

Views: 6749

Re: CIP: SpEn of Ash

Take different downstairs to D17 then. Based on the info from link above you can be partially bound in jewelry even with cursed amulet by wearing only one ring.

Friday, 15th February 2013, 06:41

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP TrWr - Jiyva heals me for 300 HP per turn

Replies: 27

Views: 3743

Re: TrWr - Need advice on game plan

Psieye wrote:Dodging is at 10 and I have swiftness online with wizardry. Time to push UC to 20. Used an EXP pot to get to 7.7 Fighting.


Training Dodging from 1.9 to 10 changed your EV from 10 to 12. Wouldn't it be better to train another skill instead?

Thursday, 14th February 2013, 14:24

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP - my second win (formerly CIP - another MiBe)

Replies: 27

Views: 2056

Re: CIP - another MiBe

[That's damage, but I think the probability to perform a headbutt on dodge is affected by stats. if (you.strength() + you.dex() <= random2(50)) return false; ... case UNAT_HEADBUTT: return ((is_uc || player_mutation_level(MUT_HORNS)) && !one_chance_in(3)); Looks like 2/3 for Minotaur unless...

Thursday, 14th February 2013, 13:25

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP - my second win (formerly CIP - another MiBe)

Replies: 27

Views: 2056

Re: CIP - another MiBe

I am diving in source right now and have just found this:

case UNAT_HEADBUTT:
aux_damage = 5 + player_mutation_level(MUT_HORNS) * 3;

so it depends on mutation level only.

Thursday, 14th February 2013, 12:51

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP - my second win (formerly CIP - another MiBe)

Replies: 27

Views: 2056

Re: CIP - another MiBe

I would compare plate armor with +AC ring vs ring mail with +Dex ring. I suspect the former is better with your current Dodging. I would go deeper into D and then into Vaults.

Also try to train some Evocation, it can be very useful with your Rod and Levitation

Thursday, 14th February 2013, 08:15

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Item Destruction

Replies: 54

Views: 13855

Re: Item Destruction

I am a new player and would like to explain why I believed that carrying useless scrolls decreases chance of burning useful ones. Not all scrolls are destroyed and not all scrolls of the same kind are destroyed usually so it looks like every scroll instance is stored separately, in a separate "...

Thursday, 14th February 2013, 08:01

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP -> YAVP: SpEn of Ash (first 15-rune win!)

Replies: 47

Views: 6749

Re: CIP: SpEn of Ash

I have read somewhere that it does not make any sense to curse less than 50% of jewelry so you should curse at least 2 of rings/amulets. Cursing just a single item will not do anything for you.

Thursday, 14th February 2013, 07:20

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD DrWz (in a zig), Sif is mean

Replies: 6

Views: 635

Re: YASD DrWz (in a zig), Sif is mean

I've never used Death's Door -- does it work with Necromutation? Is it practical to terminate necro and start dd? Yes, it is very practical even with Necromutation. My DEFE ended Necromutation and then immediately cast Death's Door before using cBlink to leave a holy floor in Ziggurat when I found ...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 19:16

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Wands: how to use?

Replies: 44

Views: 8088

Re: Wands: how to use?

It looks like the problem is not with the lesser wands but with me as player. I have just finished a MiBe game which had as one of its main goals to gain some experience with wands but to my shame I have never used even Wand of Haste and Wand of Teleportation which I had in my inventory for a long t...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 19:05

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

I have just found this:

  Code:
77405 | Zot:2    | Paralysed by a Zot trap for 7 turns


I did not notice that. Luckily there were no monsters around, they would kill me for sure. Perhaps I will train some T&D next time...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 18:55

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

YAVP - First win (was Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic)

My first win. When entering Zot I had 3 Cure Mutation potions and 2 Mutation Potions so I was not too afraid of possible mutations despite missing rMut. It was unusual game of mutations though, during middle game there was a moment when I had slow movement 1, deteriorating body 1, fast metabolism 2,...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 12:05

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Wands: how to use?

Replies: 44

Views: 8088

Re: Wands: how to use?

Wait you include Paralyse in 'minor wand'? My MiPr depended on them to kill the 5 or so hydrae encountered. Yes, some Evo pumping was involved but if you find the right toolset (in this case: 3 paralyse wands, invis ring) then it can be worth it. You had a Mi Pr here so you could always use pacifyi...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 11:42

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: [CIP] DDHe

Replies: 5

Views: 661

Re: [CIP] DDHe

Evo because it helps with the heal wand, which is significant for a Healer - basically it's another "problem-solving" skill. Wiki says Evo is not used for Wand of Heal Wounds but knowledge bot says "Its healing is not based at all on evocation skill (but Ely pacification with it is, ...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 11:35

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Wands: how to use?

Replies: 44

Views: 8088

Re: Wands: how to use?

A lot of fights you cannot win without consumables, can became easy using them. Wands are (semi)consumables. I think this is my main problem - I do not start fighting if I can't win without wands. I should rely more on wands and should be less greedy with them :) I have just reread wands of fire/dr...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 10:58

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Wands: how to use?

Replies: 44

Views: 8088

Wands: how to use?

I don't get it how to use minor wands like magic,frost, fire, paralyze etc. Early game I have low Evo so these items are almost useless. Later I might have high Evo but monsters are much tougher also. If I can win without wands, I don't use wands. If I cannot win without wands, I don't fight and aga...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 10:29

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic

Psieye wrote:It's practically irrelevant for Bardiche damage, yes. He probably meant "get +2 gloves from somewhere".


No, I do not have such gloves :( And I do not have enchant armor scrolls as you can see from my body armor enchantment.

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 10:25

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: [CIP] DDHe

Replies: 5

Views: 661

Re: [CIP] DDHe

I think you need Axes 26 to get your weapon to min delay. Why do you have so much Evo?
I tried DD just once though so my advice could be easily wrong.

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 10:14

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic

The other thing I'd add is that I think a weapon swap is fast. I like the rF from fire dragon armor on that character if you're heading to Zot soon. Personally I'd probably change those gloves, as I don't think 7 Int is too risky. I think weapon swap always takes 0.5 aut. I have just found the glov...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 10:03

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD DrWz (in a zig), Sif is mean

Replies: 6

Views: 635

Re: YASD DrWz (in a zig), Sif is mean

I think Death's Door could save you. You had 6 spell levels left and needed 2 more only. Perhaps OOD or LCS were not used that much given you had both Fire Storm and Shatter.

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 06:34

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic

Go with Bardiche over Glaive. The fact the Bardiche is anti-magic is a big plus. Carry that artefact glaive around as emergency rF++ and emergency SInv. For example, you switch to that glaive while retreating behind a corner to lure a fire mage and then switch back to Bardiche to kill it. ftfy Let'...

Wednesday, 13th February 2013, 06:27

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic

Never won before so going to Crypt and then to ZoT...
I had a DEFE who had 12 runes and cleared 2 ziggurats but that was in 0.11 with overpowered Summon Dragons so I quit that game.

Tuesday, 12th February 2013, 17:50

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic

That's probably obvious, but don't forget about evocable Blink on the glaive. +Blink all alone is a reason to carry any weapon (except distortion/vampiric) around as a berserker. And you've got that sweet ring of cTele as well. Yep. I got 9 Evo after I had found I got Shoals for my ring of flight. ...

Tuesday, 12th February 2013, 08:33

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Best/Worst Artifacts

Replies: 2853

Views: 472782

Re: Best/Worst Artifacts

  Code:
the -7 pair of gloves of Twilight {SInv Stlth++}
   (You acquired it on level 21 of the Dungeon)


Acquired, not found. I already have SInv source and am MiBe in heavy armor so stealth is useless also.

Tuesday, 12th February 2013, 08:28

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic

+7 vs. +0 is also an important difference. Also, I'm pretty sure the speed bardiche does more damage than either, though it does take more keypresses, and I would still use the antimagic one on things with spells. Yes, speed bardiche was very strong recently. When I tried it at lower levels it was ...

Tuesday, 12th February 2013, 06:59

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

Re: MiBe: Distortion or Anti-magic

I just got this from Trog: Z - the +0,+0 glaive of Pyanith (weapon) {drain, +Blink rF++ SInv, god gift} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Vaults) A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes. It greatly protects you from fire. It enhances your eyesight. It lets you blink. I...

Tuesday, 12th February 2013, 06:41

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Replies: 19

Views: 2091

First win MiBe (was Distortion or Anti-magic)

Could you please advise if it is better to use Distortion (-1,+1 Glaive) or Antimagic (+6+7 bardiche) for MiBe? I have never used Distortion before. Please see dump below. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-2107-gc557f1f (tiles) character file. MiBe the Phalangite (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 4...

Monday, 11th February 2013, 10:46

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Skills XP

Replies: 2

Views: 706

Re: Skills XP

Correction: it's based on skill POINTS. This is something that's hidden from the player (for good reason: knowing about it doesn't help) but in old versions you had a 'pool of skill points' that you got as you gained EXP and which you spent to get skills up. The 'price' of skills inflates as you am...

Monday, 11th February 2013, 09:59

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Skills XP

Replies: 2

Views: 706

Skills XP

I have heard that Skills training exp is based on total number of skills. Is it linear dependence (directly proportional)? For example, if I need X exp point to advance a skill from 5 to 6 when I have 10 skills total, then I would need twice as many exp points if I had 20 skills totals? If true, the...

Monday, 11th February 2013, 07:28

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: 0.12 questions

Replies: 9

Views: 1068

Re: 0.12 questions

minmay wrote:3) i'd like to know where you read that. traps are still around and as dumb as ever. secret doors got removed though


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Monday, 11th February 2013, 06:59

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: 0.12 questions

Replies: 9

Views: 1068

0.12 questions

I tried playing the latest 0.12 and notices some weird things. Could you please clarify guys? 1) I got Spider, Swamp, Snakes and Slime in Lair first time I played 0.12. Next time I got only 3 branches as it was the case in 0.11. Was it a bug or is it really possible to have 4 runes from Lair in 0.12...

Monday, 11th February 2013, 06:51

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

Replies: 25

Views: 3868

Re: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

As somebody who attempted zig-clearing with just mana-channel spam + summon dragon in v0.11, let me tell you what will happen. It'll go great for 15-20 floors. . . . . . . and then you'll get mass-abjured. And with 4-8 pan lords or just a genereic massive swathe of enemies at less than 8 tiles away...

Friday, 8th February 2013, 13:47

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

Replies: 25

Views: 3868

Re: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

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Friday, 8th February 2013, 13:44

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

Replies: 25

Views: 3868

Re: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

AC is irrelevant for pure fire/ice damage. You are probably thinking of fire/ice-BRANDED attacks - melee (and I think missiles as well) attacks add a percentage of their post-AC damage as fire/ice damage which then further gets reduced by rF/rC. Also note that some spells do mixed damage, e.g. Thro...

Friday, 8th February 2013, 13:15

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

Replies: 25

Views: 3868

Re: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

The next version (already available for download but not stable yet: 0.12) nerfs summoning: the dragons (and other summons) will only attack an enemy if you can see both the dragon and the enemy. I considered loading 0.12 but I am scared by possible bugs. I do not want to use Ctrl+S every 5 minutes...

Friday, 8th February 2013, 12:33

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

Replies: 25

Views: 3868

Summon Dragons, shedu, Elemental damage

Hi. Sorry for so many questions but I am not sure if it is a good idea to create a separate thread per question since it is my first post here. Sorry about my bad English. Could you please try to answer the questions below? 1) Is it common opinion that Summon Dragon + Staff of Wucad Mu is overpowere...
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