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I found out that the game really wanted to kill me when I encountered: On Snake 3: Margery, Agnes, Donald and Wiglaf On Elf 3: Aizul, Louise, Nessos, and Nergaille Of course they would arrive at the same time and from different directions, and obviously the RNG wanted to spice things up and gave me ...

Nasty tricks with Nemelex! Who said destruction decks are the only ones having offensive cards? Water Card (Deck of Dungeon) Turns floor tiles around you into water, at high power turns a lot of tiles and some into deep water. Just like Fedhas' rain invocation, instantly drowns non-flying, non-aquat...

Heh, Xom.

It's fun going with a build with Fulsome Distillation, Xom likes it when you cause nasty effects on monsters/and or yourself(more so on dangerous situations). Make Xom happy by evaporating potions at your own face.

If you don't have evaporate, you can always quaff the bad potions.

Why do all the critters of the dungeon go against the laws of nature and are intent on getting a piece of your backside? Snakes would ignore rats and attack you instead Giant frogs will ignore insects and go after you instead Bears ignore fish and honey, bees don't attack bears Even plants like Oklo...

My favorite arch nemesis would be Mennas, especially if I'm playing demonspawn/undead and he spawns with an Eudemon blade and a randart shield. Craziest challenge you can find in the late dungeons! He's faster then you He silences and confuses you, while healing himself He sees invisibility and is f...

Tengus are cool, I don't mind. Tengus are Japanese Yokai(demons/monsters); that're are half-man, half-bird(mostly crow). If you look at the illustrations carefully; you'd see that some do have beaks, while others have huge noses. In some aspects, Tengus are the antithesis to Harpies. Since Tengus ar...

Summoned 2-3 brothers to disperse the hydra head damage? :D Seeing your stuff, you could have had moved out of sight then did some/all of the following: *drink buffs (agility+might potions) *cast haste (wand or speed potion) and invisibility *cast Trog regen, summon 2-3 brothers *move in sight, cast...

Duh? Those aren't useless. Efreet Bottles are guaranteed anti-cold/hydra weapons. Plus, if the efreet is friendly, he lasts as a bodyguard indefinitely(one that floats and leaves trails of fire). Earth stones can be used to dig, and even if you summon hostile elementals, you can just run and wait fo...

Purple is top tier in my opinion; they have second highest racial magic resistance in exchange for a resistance pip, very nice spell casting aptitudes... and an irresistible dispelling breath. See a nasty unique cast haste? Debuff him! Pale is wonderful since they have steam breath, which is effecti...

Draining is nice against living, non-demonic creatures without rN. Every hit subtracts monster HD, max hp, attack&defence, and spell power by a small amount. With a fast weapon like a quick blade, this can be very deadly and lets you whittle down strong enemies with enough hits. In exchange for ...

Being able to handle the monsters of a branch is no guarantee that you'll defeat the uniques in that branch. Taking Snake right after Lair after finding a spellbook with Ignite Poison seemed like a great idea until Wiglaf said "lolno" on Snake:3. Yep, that's a given. After I met both Mara...

Oh, goodbye dear Wartyness...

By the Gods, why are the devs so Xenocidal? :cry:

Nemelex worshippers accidentially sacrifice their whole stack of items. Which is what I accidentally did an hour ago... and on my consumables/miscellaneous stack too. Lost my earth stone, party trick book and a lot jewels; including +6 +3 slaying and a resist corrosion amulet(that I was about to we...

You can use enchant weapon III. :lol:

I'd go Vehumet first to get all the attack/summon spells I need, then switch after I can take Abyss(and demons) with ease. Vehu straight up powers your damage and summoning spells, extends range and lessens mana cost. Kiku is for players going with the Necromancy path or those rushing Necromutation....

Hooray Xenocide! Kill them all tree-hugging Elves and stupid Orcs! :lol:

That's the deadly difference between Abyss and Pan really; if too many critters spawn in Abyss that you can't control, you just teleport again and again to recreate the entire map and remove all hostiles. Pandemonium on the other hand, is scary if you get swarmed, if there's portal out you can leave...

If there was an exit in that particular level; otherwise I hate leaving unfinished Pan levels whereas Abyss is a guilt-free pleasure where you won't ever lose a rune of Zot due to dangerous situations. I think the Abyss rune respawns.

Oh, and the Hellion island traumatized me. :cry:

Another fun thing about the Abyss is that with the variety of monsters spawning(and the unique environment generation), you could practice your combat & spell strategies for different situations and see which would be the most effective. If for example, you meet a tier-1 or an ancient lich you c...

Control + F works here. :lol:

Zombies always leave corpses and revive after some time. If your character is damaged by a zombie(even if the attack deals zero damage and is blocked by AC) you get the *INFECTED* status. Once infected, your character dies after a random amount of turns and revives as a zombie. Undead players are im...

Abyss is fun just because of the loot lying around... 8-) Oh, and the endless exp. Although it's quite dangerous without lots of charges of teleportation. My MuWz has been wandering around it for an eternity to train for Firestorm. The experience is quite slow 'cause I spam Haunt on anything remotel...

I think I've heard players take advantage of kleptomaniac monsters/uniques These only apply to monsters with an inventory: - drop potion of speed - let monster pick the potion and quaff it - invoke Slouch - drop CURSED highly enchanted/randart launcher and 1 appropriate ammo - let monster pick and e...

Using allies as bombs is fun :lol: - raise a skeleton or summon an earth elemental - cast Inner Flame at ally - command ally to attack nearest monster group - when your ally is at critical hp, cast Lee's Rapid Deconstruction at it to help Frag grenade = initial heat blast + fragmentation damage :lol:

Smite and hellfire seems to be invoked abilities so you can't stop them with anti-magic or silence? Damn.
Does it also apply to torment? Hmp, but for that at least we can go necromutation.

The nastiest sources of damage seem to be unavoidable and unblockable.

Got a Draconian fort with my KoBe at D-27... There were packs of Draconians breathing rainbow blasts at me followed by several death drakes and a couple of shadow dragons. Needless to say; the experience was quite brutal and I nearly bought the farm twice. Once after a couple of turns going up again...

I like high priests. :D They summon demons too, which in turn summon critters of their own... giving you an instant army to command. Plus, an army of high priests will smite-spam to death anything they can see. Great fun. :lol: Although it's a bit unfair that high Orc priests can desecrate the corps...

Going pure melee is difficult especially if you don't take the nice support skills... e.g. Magic, Ranged skills or Evocations. You'd have to rely on divine assistance like: Okawaru - buffs and gifts; better to switch at late game once your armor slots are full Trog - rage, brothers and gifts; nice i...

Ugh, raiding the Swamps with a particular Orc knight wielding a whip of electrocution is pretty much a bad idea.

Most of my weaker Orcs got zapped to death with friendly fire before I wised up and left the troublemaker back in the Lair.

I found out that Crawl wants my new character dead after meeting an Orc warrior at D2.

I retreated back one step after we see each other, then the crude Beoghite throws a spear and instantly kills my level 2 Vamp.

Nasty. :lol:

3 or so blasts from your wand of fire would have taken it down.

I wonder what you'd get if you ask for food as a mummy. Anybody know? :lol:

How good is throwing spears or even axes compared to say javelins or even other random weapons? Better than darts (dispersal is great though), worse than javelins and large rocks. Thanks. But are spears better than other weapons? Is it based on their base damage or what? Is throwing spears say bett...

Seems that Orc followers only pick up one type of weapon and only switched for stronger variants. I.e. swords for swords, axes for axes... although they prefer Orcish variants if possible. Even handedness applies, as in they probably won't switch a one-hand for a two-handed weapon. Ranged weapons ar...

Just encountered an unseen horror and a hill giant at D7... fatal encounter really. Was fighting the giant with my DrNe, retreated back and suddenly gets blocked by invisible annoyance. *Wham*

Another character bites the dust.

Will they suffocate? :lol:

I'm wondering what would happen if the fish were undead... What happens to a zombie/skeleton fish that gets stranded on land?

Ouch, that's a little too much. Grinding said areas is already very risky even for a high-level character. Taking away experience and items from Abyss or Pan means that visiting those places would be just a severe waste of resources. Additionally, experience would be in limited supply around the dun...

An Ettin is a specially nasty version of giant. In one turn, they can hit for damage reaching 100 points more or less... with their double Giant Spiked Clubs™. If you're especially lucky, those clubs could also be branded with nastiness... like speed. :twisted: Bastard mangled one of my overconfiden...

The steel javelins have base damage of 10 + 30% = (13) and a mulch rate of 1/10 of 10% = (1%) While large rocks have base damage of 20 and a mulch rate of 4% I'd go with steel javelins... though as an added note; large rocks when mulched, shatter into a number of tiny stones that retain their previo...

TehDruid wrote:
minmay wrote:That is a Swamp ending. Not a Lair ending.

Well, I can safely assume he meant Swamp since it's a branch of Lair, he must have mistyped it (cause as you stated, there's no simulacra end in Lair:8)

That's what I meant,
no one's going against what he said :lol:

minmay wrote:There are no Lair endings with simulacra.

Isn't there? I probably thought of the swamp miasma ending.

Although, I've been unlucky to meet Ice dragons around the Lair. :cry:

Heh, I trivalize almost anything in the lair with blast wands... If I have enough charges that is. :mrgreen:

Got a pair nice artifacts on a raid on the Elven vault my CeHu:

the +6, +3 long sword "Mniutil" [drain, rF+, rC+, Str+3]
the cursed +11 blowgun of Uzou [speed, rF+, Int-1, SInv]

Damn, too bad I went with M&F and Bows... really tempted to go throwing. :cry:

A few more questions: While levitating or flying over deep water/lava, can a purple Draconian breath dispell your levi/flight buff? Does it also affect Kenku flight ability? That would be instant death. :x I've been playing aquatic grey Draconians and noticed that I still fumble while fighting in th...

You gotta be careful in that death trap; even with rPois, most of the critters hit for loads of damage(esp. the Emperor scorpions). Plus, some spiders can move faster than you. The jumping spiders have a bad habit of hopping behind you and blocking your escape path... doesn't help that there's almos...

Gotta love it when you:
Encounter Ogres or Orc Warriors at D2.... and you have curare. :mrgreen:

Not that lovable when you:
Encounter an Ice Beast instead.

Quick question!

Is it possible to LRD explode Earth Elementals 'you' summoned?

I'm thinking about sending meaty suicide soldiers into the frontlines. :mrgreen:

Stuff I've found worthy of mention: On my KoAs: the +6 scalemail of Hangman [+Blink, rPois, rF+, rC+] the +2 ringmail "Blaes" [rF+, Dam+3, SInv] the +0 pair of gloves of Misanthropy [rPois, rF+, Dam+1, Stlth++] the ring of Avim [+Inv, Str+4, Acc+2] On my DsAs: the +7, +2 demon blade "...

The dungeon will most definitely throw things you aren't equipped to handle as you progress through it. *No RPois? You open a door and see a room filled with a swarm of bees. *No RFire? You'll find a volcano early... plus you get to see lindwurms and dragons at the Lair. *No RCold? You'll find an ic...

Go with Petrify + LRD, Shatter for late game.
Get Summon Elemental spell or Stone of Earth Elementals voila! You have beefy meaty walking bombs of STONE!

Proceed to demolish everything!

Additionally, worship Lugonu or Fedhas to destroy the entire dungeon easier.

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