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so I'm not thinking and I nuke some of my skelebros with black drac breath. Oka gives me a red card, fair enough I'll work it off. A few hundred turns later and I get a couple stone giants and a high level merfolk pack dropped on me... in lair at XL12. When did this become a thing and why is it a th...

FR shadow traps don't appear in one tile hallways.

Shadow traps are pretty miserable in their current implementation. I wouldn't mind seeing traps of all kinds removed.

I very rarely use maces because I don't like the great mace brand set (iirc draining,holy,protection?)

I'm cool with uniques favoring certain brands and ice caves giving ice gear, but I don't believe balance and/or flavor are enough to justify the labyrinth of special cases outlined in minmay's post.

the longer you wait, the more 'fun' the devs pack into extended and my high score becomes all the more secure.

if he waits so long that his save gets deleted, that is an acceptable outcome.

I'd put this in GDD but whatever

Would it be so bad if maces could generate with vamp or double swords could show up with protection? Why don't quick blades get anything at all? (special cases/vaults/uniques/randarts aside)

is this just a legacy thing

finish the DrJr. I will never know peace otherwise.

Personal, unqualified opinion based solely on extensive extended play:

Hells good, Pan bad*.

*and worse with the new demonspawn dudes - now I have to actually pay attention while drudging through 40+ panfloors. Interesting dudes are cool and all but in this case they only make Pan take longer.

My particular favorites are Dr, VS, Ds, Mu

I really like VS because full slots, mostly neutral apts, and rapid healing means less 5ing/food clock garbage.

I would play Ds even more but its negative XP apt is stupid. Why hamstring the coolest part about the race - leveling up for mutations?

Octagon, Cross, and Donut are pretty much never fun.

Sar: you're talking about power. But if you stripped away the card stuff from Nemelex, he's basically a god that gives random destruction, summon, or escape effects. This is how I feel. Experience, Trowel, and Helix were Nem's most interesting effects. Incentive enough for me to tolerate the hoover...

It boggles my mind that Wild Magic is still considered a good mutation. Oftentimes it's more debilitating than any of the current badmut set. Stat drain is already a thing, so -EV mutations aren't necessary. Negative resistances are not fun or interesting. See: Mummy. I like Remorse, giving all enem...

Sandman25 wrote:
eeviac wrote:J - the +11,+9 claymore "Boodgh" (weapon) {chaos, rC+ rN+ MR+}

Xom is a total bro

Are you going to use it?

yeah, I'm a longblade using VSCK

J - the +11,+9 claymore "Boodgh" (weapon) {chaos, rC+ rN+ MR+}

Xom is a total bro

I don't consider myself a good player though I do have a good chunk of wins. Playing optimally or carefully doesn't interest me - I run Elf every game because I like items.

Yeah I know vorp was buffed a bit. What I'm getting at is with the removal of these spells and Branding's current functionality, I think I'm going to end up using big vorp weapons more often than not (unless my god provides otherwise). It's only safe to reroll from vorp if you happen to have a scrol...

Sar wrote:But randomness is fun! (I'm not actually being sarcastic here.)

AFAIK Branding still gives vorp by default, so in order to get flame/freeze brands on your vanilla claymore you have to find at least 2. Preferably a few more as backup just in case you roll venom.

Oh you meant at 0 M&F skill. That makes sense.

johlstei wrote:(Really I'm just sad I can't guarantee myself a freezing weapon when I find brand weapon.)

This bothers me, too. I want some degree of not-god-related control over my weapon brands.

Sandman25 wrote:Crazy Yiuf's room had a very nice hammer, fsim shows it is slightly better than +8 demon whip (tested with Fighting 12 vs Yak).

I'm... skeptical. My gut says there's no way that this is true. Not a bad pre-lair no-skill melee option, though.

And I do think, since spellcasters are so fragile (1) , especially when magic skill is low and a low-skill beatstick is better: though probably worse in the long run; Monk, Zealot (except Trog) (2) and Warrior-Mage starts are the best spawn-ins to survive the early game. 1. 'Spellcasters' are not '...

Being locked out of Regeneration still really bugs me. If rings and troll leather work, the spell should work.

As the king of draconians and world's greatest DrJr, my ranking is definitive.

red - awesome breath, rF
black - awesome breath
purple - great apts, MR
white - rC means no stupid slowing effect (remove please)
(other colors)
mottled - sticky flame is boring

Difficulty is highly subjective and even changes from one HOBe to the next.

forest was created as a crypt swap Forest only rotates with Crypt because at the time it landed we couldn't think of somewhere else to put it without affecting game length too much. If some runes freed up, I could see them co-existing. That's promising. Here's how I would improve extended: - Remove...

I've long been a proponent of moving extended runes out of pan/hells and into branches that aren't full of demons and undead. The easiest first step would have been moving demonic into forest, but since forest was created as a crypt swap, it doesn't really help the 'less demons and undead' paradigm ...

off topic: I've never understood this 'Og are weak' paradigm. They have extra HP and easy access to the biggest weapon in the game. Play careful until you get your GSC online and some dragon armour, then pound dudes into dust. They're one of the most straightforward races to win with. on topic: This...

Anything that reduces the number of neqoxecs in the game gets my full support.

I don't know exactly which portions DracoOmega is responsible for, but I can say that I've really liked the direction crawl has taken since I started playing in .10 trunk. I can't think of a change that's stuck around that I've straight-up disliked (other than cold Dr ugh ). You devs do good work. I...

For where you're at you've got pretty good defenses, so I would lay off the armour/dodge/stealth training for now in lieu of combat. So get a little bit of fighting and a lot of long blades. I recommend long blades because vamp is really strong and demon blades are reasonably common once hell knight...

Let's remove those, too. :trollface:

Or perhaps this situation gives more fuel to the monsters-shouldn't-pick-up-items fire? Especially something as completely useless to them as wizardry.

I was not making a joke with this thread.

I listed it as a 'pro', but having no food clock is more of a convenience than a strength. And being locked out of potion use is a heavy price to pay for it. They really don't need to be punished further.

except for the 'Regen' spell part. It can't effect them because it's necromantic reanimation of wounds, and they are already undead. (does it work on Vp or Gh, btw?) The regen spell works on everyone except Mu, DD and bloodless Vp. Regen rings and troll leather don't work on DD and bloodless Vp, bu...

Mu pros: 1. undead resistances 2. no food clock Mu cons: 1. no potions 2. mostly terrible apts 3. not-terrible necro apt, but locked out of the best necro spells 4. rF- 5. undead drawbacks (holy/dispel weakness, no berserk/tmut etc.) Proposed buffs: 1. raise -2 apts to -1 2. unlock regen spell (the...

OgWr is the best Chei background. 15 strength makes a significant difference when using a GSC. The extra int and dex shore up some of Og's weaknesses. Portal projectile large rocks. Randblink when you need some space and can't walk away. etc etc

haste is not enough of a problem to be worth the hassle of rebalancing the game in its absence.

there are many 'no-brainer' spells in the game: swiftness, rmsl, regen, blink... if you find them there is no reason outside of god conduct not to learn them.

Wanting to do a magic-free UC build does not make sense unless you're a Troll or Ghoul berserker. Transmutations put your punch damage through the roof.

I go Oka on all my punching dudes. (and nearly all my nonpunching dudes)

Perhaps a better solution would be to work a text editor into local versions of the game that can be accessed from the start menu, so new players can easily find and change their own options. I'm not sure if the local documentation is enough to really understand what's going on though. (this might b...

Dude I'm pretty sure you're overreacting, maybe you should chill. If you understood what a corona is, you would know that napalm has nothing to do with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Solar_eclipse_1999_4_NR.jpg/220px-Solar_eclipse_199...

Zigs are not guaranteed in dungeon. Keep running pan floors and you'll find one eventually. Zigs do not generate in hells and I'm 99% sure they don't generate in Abyss.

battaile wrote:Ah yes, the week long April Fools joke that was released at the end of March after a non-trivial amount of development time.

This post implies that Jesters aren't an April Fools joke. They are. They were released on April 1st. Every dev I've spoken to says they'll be getting removed this weekend.

um, MDA is one of the best armours in the game. It doesn't need to give any resistances.

brendan wrote:
minmay wrote:skeletal warriors suck

That's why I removed them from the Abyss.

Now just lower their AC and remove their pack status and you can be the new #1 best dev.

The clear was 100% earth staff/iron shot/mp channeling. Shatter ruins your cover while calling the whole floor down on your head.

ok this dude just cleared all of newZot as a 4runer (plus 10 or so XP cards/potions). I got 2 open floors - one grunt said was layout_basic, basically one big room with walls placed sporadically, and then I got a big stairs vault with moths of all kinds. It wasn't that bad because I didn't see an or...

I'll attempt clearing newZot before extended on this DrJr I currently have in vaults, and see how it goes.

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