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Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 04:31

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Stop Auto Explore Once You Pick Up Enough Gold to Afford the

Replies: 8

Views: 2644

Re: Stop Auto Explore Once You Pick Up Enough Gold to Afford

You put food rations on your shopping list? Isn't it just as easy to ctrl+F that kind of stuff when you need it? Not that that has any bearing on your request, it just struck me as odd. With food rations specifically it is - just search "food" - but you can have many things that you kind ...

Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 02:37

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: God Idea: Ibn Hayyan, god of Alchemy

Replies: 15

Views: 3566

Re: God Idea: Ibn Hayyan, god of Alchemy

Combine potions sounds a lot like Gozag's Petition.

Tuesday, 12th July 2016, 02:27

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Rename Crystal Plate Armour to Iron Dragon Armour

Replies: 48

Views: 14213

Re: Rename Crystal Plate Armour to Iron Dragon Armour

GDA used to be worse (more encumbering, maybe less AC?) than it is now, so there's some of that going around. When you find either of them early enough to enchant, or have a good randart to save scrolls, they can be good.

And please don't remove armour for more dirty dragonskins.

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 18:27

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD- DsSu - Great mace worth it?

Replies: 4

Views: 1581

Re: YASD- DsSu - Great mace worth it?

Makes sense. Yeah, I'd probably solidify a bit more here - finish Bolt of Fire and then turn on maces/dodging/fighting, probably getting at most 12 maces and maybe more like 6-8. You'll definitely find useful 1-h maces given enough time (can also crosstrain over to staff of fire) and that skill will...

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 18:17

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Mark Gourmand as Useless for Gozag Worshippers

Replies: 9

Views: 2451

Re: Mark Gourmand as Useless for Gozag Worshippers

and Trog doesn't even stop you from casting the spell, does he? Think of all the Kiku -> Trog games where you have DDoor/Borgs for emergencies, might need brilliance for that.

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 06:50

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD- DsSu - Great mace worth it?

Replies: 4

Views: 1581

Re: CiP - DsSu - Great mace worth it?

I'd definitely use the gmace, but no need to get 20 skill if you want to keep using spells mostly, just use your Discretion when attacking. I'm more confused about learning fireball / BoF here - pick a plan!

(For more excessively diverse plans, invis + assassin boots + Discretion should be fun)

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 06:42

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Gozag for Casters?

Replies: 5

Views: 1781

Re: Gozag for Casters?

A little extra spellcasting and you should be fine. Amalloy has some videos of a TeSu of Gozag, in which he shows that even paying less attention than you really should to it is fine.

If you are trying to be a more pure spellcaster, then you will want a more focused god.

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 04:35

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Slouch mechanic

Replies: 14

Views: 3342

Re: Slouch mechanic

Oh, Sp of chei got better? Hurray! (I've always liked cheitaur, but haven't tried spriggan as much)

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 04:24

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: OgMo of Gozaz aka hardest win

Replies: 4

Views: 1345

Re: OgMo of Gozaz aka hardest win

I'm conflicted. Shield ogre is no ogre at all, but qazgong is pretty awesome.

e: you were probably right to seek shields with d:5 spellbinder

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 04:23

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Now YAVP : MfAK^Lucy

Replies: 7

Views: 1645

Re: CiP : MfAK, bardiche or dtrident ?

I would wield the scroll of acquirement, and read it. If none of your other scrolls are enchant or brand weapon, weapon would be a tempting acquirement. If they are brand, probably use the dtrident for now.

Tuesday, 5th July 2016, 04:15

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP DECJ^Dith: Which book; pain weapon ?s

Replies: 7

Views: 1589

Re: CIP DECJ^Dith: Which book; pain weapon ?s

Get Ozocubu's armour from Frost. Not sure if icicle replacing IMB is a good idea or not. (edit: didn't notice the ring mail. I'm reasonably sure you're better off with say rF robe + ozos though) I like having a bolt, but Lightning can be noisy and annoying. But certainly I'd rather go for all the Ai...

Friday, 1st July 2016, 09:26

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP - TrBe - Very lucky start

Replies: 7

Views: 2046

Re: TrBe - Very lucky start

If you find a bunch of scrolls ... even then it's hard for GDA to beat +9 PDA. I'd probably try to just get by with resistance potions.

Thursday, 30th June 2016, 04:35

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP - VpEn of Ashenzari

Replies: 71

Views: 21407

Re: CIP - VpEn - Running thread until I win

You could curse the disto dagger, but personally I would swap between speed dagger and elec dtrident.

Time to lose CCF for mana viper?

Wednesday, 29th June 2016, 04:46

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Please remove invisibility from chaos effects

Replies: 15

Views: 3779

Re: Please remove invisibility from chaos effects

And if you hasted it first?

Yeah, invis is not generally interesting from chaos. It also encourages you to pillardance the foe even if it would normally be quite safe, since berserking an invisible monster can get out of hand without you noticing.

Wednesday, 29th June 2016, 04:42

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP - VpEn of Ashenzari

Replies: 71

Views: 21407

Re: CIP - VpEn - Running thread until I win

In most situations dragon armours are quite awful until you can enchant them (and maybe train armour some). Here I'd definitely prefer a robe to mottled - unsure after say +4 mottled or so, but at +0 it's no contest.

e: rF leather might be better than the robe? or maybe not.

Wednesday, 29th June 2016, 01:38

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: My First Win - MiBe - 3 Runes

Replies: 7

Views: 2002

Re: My First Win - MiBe - 3 Runes

your CPA was a lot better than a +0 GDA.

Tuesday, 28th June 2016, 02:10

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Rework or Replace Monk

Replies: 45

Views: 12264

Re: Rework or Replace Monk

Nor as good a weapon!

Tuesday, 28th June 2016, 02:07

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAD (not stupid one): DsGl of Dith

Replies: 24

Views: 4936

Re: YAD (not stupid one): DsGl of Dith

So that fsim is showing 2x damage, without even having mindelay (which would not have been difficult to get, or get close to, from the rest of lair after finding it)? That would have done it easily. Thinking about this more, I think you also needed to give up the amazing robe for a while and at leas...

Monday, 27th June 2016, 09:16

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: [yavp] KoHu trj question

Replies: 4

Views: 1353

Re: [CiP] KoHu trj question

Jellies can't eat your shots anymore, so just portal projectile em out.

Monday, 27th June 2016, 08:58

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAD (not stupid one): DsGl of Dith

Replies: 24

Views: 4936

Re: YAD (not stupid one): DsGl of Dith

Given that the arc blade does have rElec, it probably would have helped. Still since the sorc could have summoned a sun demon instead, so that's not as important. My experience has been that arc blade is a completely bonkers weapon (including on SpEn, the noise is not a problem) so it might also hav...

Sunday, 26th June 2016, 18:15

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Is it safe to search for a portal out as an Abyssal Knight?

Replies: 8

Views: 2213

Re: Is it safe to search for a portal out as an Abyssal Knig

I'd say significantly less than 10%, since there's a portal near the start. Sometimes walls and abyss shifting make it hard to find.

Sunday, 26th June 2016, 18:10

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Make maces not recommended for Troll starts.

Replies: 24

Views: 4439

Re: Make maces not recommended for Troll starts.

I use "viable" weapons to enforce random starts on the hyper account (otherwise a character with weapon choice could be rerolled), and it's often annoying getting sbl (I think I got that on a Minotaur?). The Ko / Tr maces situations seem particularly bad, yes.

Sunday, 26th June 2016, 18:04

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Scroll Proposal: Ego Armor

Replies: 15

Views: 3621

Re: Scroll Proposal: Ego Armor

The justification is weak - if you have only a tiny chance of getting boots of running, the increase in survivability from branding a plain cloak or whatever could easily be higher. Especially so if these scrolls existed from changing brand weapon scrolls to brand item.

Saturday, 25th June 2016, 05:43

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP DsGl^Makh: Hurl Damnation is fun

Replies: 21

Views: 4334

Re: CIP DsGl^Makh: CIP DsGl^Makh: Can't get past Mara

You can also probably use greater servants (and Mara's clone can't. Nor does he have anything that cares about MR). Just watch out for bolts of fire.

Friday, 24th June 2016, 06:42

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Extended strategies

Replies: 3

Views: 1300

Re: Extended strategies

Those are definitely the most obvious strategies, but managing line-of-sight/fire can get you a long way with basically any god in extended. Then when that doesn't work, use a scroll of teleport (and don't be a formic).

Thursday, 23rd June 2016, 21:28

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Fix auto-pickup multiple Misc

Replies: 22

Views: 5538

Re: Fix auto-pickup multiple Misc

Is there a way to change which items are auto-picked up in-game? Like saying, I already have rings which give me magic resistance, stop picking them? this auto pickup does what you want... once you pick up one of a certain type of ring <magic resistance, poison resistance, etc> it takes the rest of...

Sunday, 19th June 2016, 06:28

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Have wands of tele changed their behavior?

Replies: 14

Views: 3218

Re: Have wands of tele changed their behavior?

Confusion has always made wands useless. It's not something new. You cannot actually take useful actions while confused other than quaffing potions. This should also be clear from confusing wanded enemies, who would happily blast their wands in every direction ... though I think something about thi...

Sunday, 19th June 2016, 03:32

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Fix auto-pickup multiple Misc

Replies: 22

Views: 5538

Re: Fix auto-pickup multiple Misc

Sar wrote:
genericpseudonym wrote:I just autopickup everything with {god gift}

yes but then I would have to edit rc instead of pressing / and choosing an option like a casual I am


And wondering why you keep running everywhere!

(the command is \, for future readers)

Sunday, 19th June 2016, 03:16

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Rework or Replace Monk

Replies: 45

Views: 12264

Re: Rework or Replace Monk

I'm just glad that good older suggestions can be redone, and might get followed!

Tuesday, 14th June 2016, 16:55

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Ru sacrifice craft?

Replies: 11

Views: 3497

Re: Ru sacrifice craft?

Folks keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Which word, "unbalanced"? I really did mean that. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that this is worth the same as Durability + Eye, 50-60 piety? I might only take it if it gave 120 piety which would clearly r...

Tuesday, 14th June 2016, 16:48

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

Replies: 42

Views: 13079

Re: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

That faerie dragon armour seems pretty useless, considering you have rF++ on two permanent items anyway. I guess you can't use your Dragon King anymore given you're using necromutation, but you'd have been much better off without that experience drain for one spell. Given that you're here now, do re...

Tuesday, 14th June 2016, 08:54

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Ru sacrifice craft?

Replies: 11

Views: 3497

Re: Ru sacrifice craft?

Sacrifice "remove moths of suppression". Like sac exp/skill, I don't think I could take this unless it gave me an unbalanced amount of piety.

Sunday, 12th June 2016, 15:52

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove or improve demonic guardian

Replies: 17

Views: 5131

Re: Remove or improve demonic guardian

Oh yes tornado is the same way - of course the guardian will die to the tornado soon, but you can get cacodemon mutations pretty easily.

Sunday, 12th June 2016, 08:13

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

Replies: 42

Views: 13079

Re: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

You mean you do tomb often as your third rune? Is due to self imposed challenge, acquiring more than 3 runes, or optimal play? Can't speak for duvessa, but I do it as 4th-5th (+ abyssal if that happened) a lot. It's often easier than V5 but rarely easier than slime, and lots of fun items to sort th...

Sunday, 12th June 2016, 07:37

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: explore_stop for unequipped slots

Replies: 3

Views: 1424

Re: explore_stop for unequipped slots

doable in the rcfile. Mine autopicks them, I assume that's close enough - there's some other stuff in there like picking up enchanted items that might be better than your own, relatively easy to tweak: # autopickup by Medar, tweaked by rchandra { local function armour_plus(it) local plus = string.gs...

Sunday, 12th June 2016, 07:04

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Remove or improve demonic guardian

Replies: 17

Views: 5131

Re: Remove or improve demonic guardian

I filed a mantis about this, some good interactions with AE:

lightning bolt - no harm
freezing cloud - harms him, no anger
static discharge - harm, agner, warning
tornado - harm, anger, warning
chain lightning - harm, anger, no warning

and I think slouch was harm, no anger but couldn't swear to it.

Sunday, 12th June 2016, 06:55

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

Replies: 42

Views: 13079

Re: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

duvessa wrote:Er...you don't need any of those. Except patience and stairdancing, you should have those. It'll suck with Qazlal, though - like the rest of the game.


Curious - is it possible for all characters to clear current tomb through patience, without MR? How?

Sunday, 12th June 2016, 06:49

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: VP:NaFE^Ash (2xIce manual)

Replies: 5

Views: 1733

Re: CiP:NaFE^Ash (2xIce manual)

I've had trying to abuse manuals with ash lead towards a death, since it weakens you during the process of using them. Not worth it - if you actually want something (say bolt of cold), then it'll be a lot better. e: even a weird thing like Minotaur with staff of cold melee and ice manuals worked OK ...

Sunday, 12th June 2016, 04:06

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Troves...... Should I?

Replies: 15

Views: 3418

Re: Troves...... Should I?

Get the trove if it seems feasible (so not the 2 acq unless I find two at once, or there are two for sale, etc). I once gave a trove every HW potion in the game up to d:20 and both S-branches (forget how many - maybe 16?), and was happy with the outcome (multiple HW wands, haste wand, etc). That li...

Saturday, 11th June 2016, 03:08

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

Replies: 42

Views: 13079

Re: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

If you're going to be a coward and take makhleb (definitely stronger than qaz) why not just take Makhleb in the beginning? If you like Qaz then doing extended with em is a lot of fun and danger.

Saturday, 11th June 2016, 02:29

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: On Giant Spiked Clubs

Replies: 19

Views: 5071

Re: On Giant Spiked Clubs

Until you have decent* skill, using the weapon with the greatest enchantment is often good. I'm happy to just put on a GC/GSC and forget about it as soon as I have a few enchant or brand scrolls, Og will get skill fast enough.

Friday, 10th June 2016, 10:36

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

Replies: 42

Views: 13079

Re: CeGl In Progress - Late Game Advice Wanted

You can just use the dtrident, and press ' to swap to the eudemon blade when you want it (if they're in slots a and b, use = to fix that). If you use a brand weapon scroll, either the eudemon blade can't be rebranded or it will become a demon blade again (the latter is what happened when I tried usi...

Thursday, 9th June 2016, 23:18

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Troves...... Should I?

Replies: 15

Views: 3418

Re: Troves...... Should I?

I'd trade acquirement scrolls for healing potions usually, so that's nice. How do you normally assess whether a trove is worth it? I follow this rule of thumb: Get the trove if it doesn't ask for anything useful. Otherwise not. Get the trove if it seems feasible (so not the 2 acq unless I find two ...

Thursday, 9th June 2016, 23:15

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Is summon ice beasts overpowered?

Replies: 42

Views: 10778

Re: Is summon ice beasts overpowered?

For Veh spell damage boost: ey could give half of the amulet of harm for eir spells.

Thursday, 9th June 2016, 21:16

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Gender politics

Replies: 118

Views: 43903

Re: Gender politics

I like the changes overall, though I'd prefer panlords keep genders and I think changing Sojobo is very inappropriate.

Thursday, 9th June 2016, 08:21

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: inaccuracy amulet

Replies: 20

Views: 5511

Re: inaccuracy amulet

Sar wrote:I always thought Air was really good, but I guess it's really bad. New meta???


Though with Air, perhaps the extra abilities are saving you for longer than the extra time it takes to kill things...

Tuesday, 7th June 2016, 18:49

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Zig Reform

Replies: 4

Views: 1779

Re: Zig Reform

Removing loot from the main area is bad, one of the neatest things is considering how greedy to be when fleeing a dangerous floor. Can I apport that, the other, and drop something, and grab them all, then leave? If not, which items to not collect?

Tuesday, 7th June 2016, 16:41

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Is there any reason to use anything other than axes/spears?

Replies: 30

Views: 8108

Re: Is there any reason to use anything other than axes/spea

Long blades give you free shortblade skill for stabbing. Given the cost of 10 skill for dagger this probably isn't actually meaningful but I still like it if I'm going to be doing a little stabbing but mostly meleeing (light-armour Ru characters that didn't sacrifice stealth, for example).

Tuesday, 7th June 2016, 03:26

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Elec Rapier?

Replies: 9

Views: 2549

Re: Elec Rapier?

On good stabbing characters I never bother to switch away from my quickblade/rapier to a dagger except for really big things like the royal jelly.

Tuesday, 7th June 2016, 03:13

Forum: Technical Support

Topic: changing player glyph colour in ready()

Replies: 0

Views: 951

changing player glyph colour in ready()

Is it possible to change the player glyph (console) in the ready() function? I want to change the colour based on current HP. Most ideal would be changing it to the current HP colour, as that is already configurable via things like "hp_colour = 70:yellow, 40:red".
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