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brilliance and staff of earth will make LRD work relatively easily, if you end up in that position again.

it's an imposed challenge, he has to get 27 Summonings then 27 something else, and so on.

It's a fine element for players without very high winrates - they can get a random god with extra piety. But a player who is likely to be able to win the game without the altar should never take it, since they have that 2 or 3 in 23 of being ruined (Xom, Tr of Gozag maybe, etc.). If wrath continues ...

wheals wrote:Didn't we all agree on a solution?

No, not in the least.

MR doesn't do anything there, and I think mutation resistance 2 is still only 2/3 effective or so. Throwing works well though! (or wands, etc.) That ice dragon armour is complete trash at that point in the game. Armour enchantment is its most important attribute - with much less than its "norma...

if you changed to anybody I'd suggest Elyvilon here (as long as you have a brand weapon scroll or another good weapon), but Okawaru is fine too.

Fighting in particular is really low for now, I'd get that and Armour higher.

Leaving aside whether L9 spells later and/or farming pan are good ideas, if you do those things you can take off your sword at any time and use another. Since it's an artefact you don't even have wasted enchant scrolls, so use it now if it's good now (it is).

There was also that period where the scaling was 0 bonus at most piety, double stealth at 200 piety due to an integer divison error.

I would definitely get Bolt of Draining, Dispel Undead, and probably Vamp Draining and Agony. Those spells will deal with most things and you will start enhancing them as a Mummy relatively soon (XL 13). Draining goes well with your Conjurer start. You don't need any animation spells since Yred prov...

it's better than toon, mob, and build at least?

You should be able to static discharge + poison spit single yaks and lightning bolt groups, I'd get more Spc/Air/Conj.

So remove curse scrolls have been low? If you could curse the rings that would start helping soon.

You can't make a CK reliably do anything. I played 4 "good" CK in the last tournament (played random characters only - lucky that at least they were Ce and 3x HO). One died from my idiocy, but the others included XL1 D:1 Reaper from Xom, D:3 Grinder the apocalypse crab, and D:3 sixfirhy fr...

Yeah this is why I put "challenge" in quotes, it's more style than anything. If Kiku gifts pain and vamp draining with the first book you can also do the Necro challenge from there (just kill things with pure Necro spells or your painhammer, no minions) if you want. Or even start as a Necr...

it's the more the better, like fighting/armour/dodging. Use your spell success/power as the main guideline, and I like to have 12+ for my pain weapon. I think it does affect corpse quality, it's basically Invocations with a new name with Kiku.

Pretty much, you get tormented and the spell can be blocked (increased miscast) but two casts should be enough. You might also be standing in miasma and need to get out through the zombies.

It's almost never worth training to 25, but sometimes I'm willing to use it underskilled (or I feel like getting the skill anyway). See what it does to your EV, spells, and attack speed (there'll be a lot of variability with the latter). Pretending large shield doesn't exist is a reasonable thing to...

I wasn't planning to be at 0 potions forever, just never needed any until Snake so wanted to grab the rune. PbD and magic shield is a lot of survivability. This would be a good character type for you tasonir, though you'd have to put your UC/statueform obsession on hold. You get a melee start with g...

Died by cheimoving after a bad teleport and being stubborn to not quaff curing in Snake:$ (still at 0 potions), Ignite Poison + Bolt of Magma really hurt. Pity to waste such a good set of DS mutations and items (that acq got a wand of heal wounds).

that's a lot of str on the buckler, it might make war/broad axes better until you get more Axes skill? If you wanted spells next and had a better 1-H axe I could see using it instead of going for 20+ axes.

And when I play EE I usually just get a little bit of Tmut for Stoneskin and don't learn Petrify at all (not because it's bad, I actually have no idea if it's bad or good). So my EE wouldn't even be able to cast Irradiate, let alone had good spellpower on it. I feel like Petrify is a good spell - i...

I had wanted to win a character with a hammer or club of pain for a while, so decided to start a DsFi of Kiku. ##crawl suggested taking Chei afterwards for help swinging the hammer, so why not. Kiku wrath was quite trivial with Control Undead, and finished just after Lair (made the painhammer and to...

There's a number of features of which there can be only one per tile: stairs, traps, shafts, portals, shops, water, lava, etc. I think The destination is one of them. If it is not (wtf devs?) then it can be easily forced to be one. Cover up something important - what? An object on the ground? Most ...

if you're not carrying stones or bullets, \ will work. If you are, \ might work. As a merfolk I'll basically always be looking for twohanders so not bother thinking about the shield here. Also if I'm using a shield to shield me, I want it to at least be a "shield" (buckler doesn't protect ...

A ziggurat is always pushing your luck. You certainly could tornado everything, but if some floor goes poorly with that you can die. You have very few heal wounds uses, too. I'd leave sometime in the 10-15 region, get the rest of the runes, and update your crawl version to 0.16.1 (assuming you don't...

You do probably need to concentrate your skilling a little at this point - doesn't matter as much where, but get better at one thing. You say your main focus is hexes, but you only have Confuse and Corona - if you didn't burn your book EH and Tukima's are both still good for you. For the rods, I rea...

fighting 1v1 as Elystan said, and using Excruciating Wounds as needed, should work fine. Can you amnesia something (Invisibility or Agony, temporarily?) for Discord? You have a lot of hexes so that might do well too. I don't think you need any new things, but training 3-6 conjurations to enable the ...

I'd use the vampiric bardiche and accept that I'm not using rods anymore - if there's some target that makes me really want to rod/curare, well that's what permafood is for. If you don't want to do that (hey, rods are fun) then use the antimagic bardiche. Your other skills are doing fine so train ju...

If you have staff of conjurations plus your elemental staff (let's say fire), staff of fire is almost always better. Sometimes you will prefer conjurations because you are also casting IOOD/IMB/iron Shot, or especially so if you have Bolt of Cold (staff of fire would dehance that, and you don't real...

The halo is particularly good for TSO summoners, too. You'll have to be flexible since you have no guarantees of finding new summoning books; even one higher-level non-demon spell will take you a long way. As n1000 implied, don't skip Call Imp - just stop casting it after joining TSO (bind to a capi...

But your spellpower is crap, right? Cj seems like a bad choice -- less Int than Wz. It's not that much of a difference, and the dex isn't wasted at all. There's also a pretty big difference between wz and cj in the early floors (Cj will have higher spellpower and better spells!) and/or before vehum...

Don't get maces, you have a weapon skill and a fine weapon. I'd get some defenses now - probably armour and use a heavier armour, along with earth and other magic skills if needed. After that, Haste is a fine plan.

Congratulations - Ogre spellcaster of Ash next?

Don't use such awful gloves when you already had rF++.

Demon whip of pain, assuming there exists a single useful necromancy spell. Until then you might as well use the whip or the draining shortsword. Getting maces to mindelay on the eveningstar would be annoying, too (if you don't have any necro spells for the dwhip). I'd just train it a little and use...

Yes, not necessarily 50-50 but however you want them balanced for rarity. But there's no need to consider the player in this.

I don't know about the lag, but you need to make your ready() function use HDAs AnnounceDamage() function.

I don't ever plan on abandoning archmagi, but if I find a good randart leather or want AC from dragon armour it's possible. Ring mail is pretty unlikely to beat archmagi.

Why? I'm pretty sure any extended heavy-armour melee type could make great use of para needles if they had throwing skill, even with 0 stealth.

I don't find vampiric very good on low damage weapons, unless playing a DD I'd not use it.

Scimitar is plenty good enough to win with, but double sword is better. Flaming > holy for most of the game but I'd still just use the double sword and enchant it as you find scrolls.

the real question on tele ring is why does it let you evoke it at all? *tele is a punishment for using items without known ?RC, but evokable infinite teleports seems pretty bad.

For (1) and (3) you can get throwables too, unsure on (2).

For the starting weapon it looks a lot more reasonable for some if you have a positive aptitude, I was thinking of people who go to 20-26 weapon skill with nothing else for the big twohander they find early / are gifted / hope to get. But even for starting weapons I'd recommend getting some fighting...

Your original assumption "train to mindelay immediately" is also false. Well you're not wrong in that it might be common, but it's not recommended as a general practise.

UC can do fine damage, even one-handed, but I hate it without forms since it's boring and exp-intensive.

Staying with your starting god is classier, too. Since you have a wand of haste and a big antimagic weapon (presumably?) you don't need TSO's help for anything (especially since, as you said, spellcasting would be a pain to get started). If you didn't get an antimagic exec axe you still don't _need_...

Definitely use the trove. While the vampiric demon whip isn't great in extended, I'd not want to lose the option of using it in other places (like zot/zig) so if you can decently enchant/brand another demon whip or eveningstar I'd do that. I'd do Zot to 4 for experience, orbs of fire aren't that com...

Lecturing celem about using the pain gift early is foolish since e already had a pain weapon. Lecturing em about starving is entirely reasonable, however.

I'm not saying that this tells you the damage you did. I'm saying it lets you compare two weapons.

#OLIATWANAWWIBATOWAAIFIWAWMT Oh Look, It's Another Thread Where A Newbie Asks Which Weapon Is Better And The Only Way An Answer Is Found Is With A Wizard Mode Tool! Alternately, the answer is found by using the estimate of power = (damage / delay) where both values are told to you by the game. Sadl...

Pain brand and enchant the demon trident, even an unbranded dtrident is a tolerable weapon. For extended you can use brand weapon scrolls on it, but at least do Zot first. Wizardry doesn't help with spellpower, just failure - but it might still be useful for the necronomicon spells, depending how mu...

As a formic I would strongly consider taking a Lugonu altar if you can survive wrath from your current god. (Lugonu will let you out) Keep walking away from things when you can, and rest if you have an area where you can't see much space. be willing to walk through walls to manage LOS of enemies. Ev...

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