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When was the last time anyone saw anything good enough in a bazaar to actually consider doing this? The best thing I've gotten from a bazaar in months is a +2 rPois cloak. And I guess some decent potions to help load out my consumables. As far as I can tell, bazaars are on average significantly wor...

That trident will do just fine all the way up through zot. Vamp is just sweet sauce for anything that is not undead or demonic. You will find a number of enemies in depths like this so be careful there, and obviously for extended you will need to switch. As far as distortion goes... It is a powerful...

Unique rune guardians just shouldn't be nettable, period. Both for flavor (they are flipping giant and super powerful, TRJ just eats your damn net come on this makes ZERO sense) and for game-play reasons, given that nets are pretty much an instant win button in most fights, and by the time you are d...

Snake is diggable and noise travels pretty well as the levels are mostly open. But boy isn't that tedious...

Damn, those rings are just a dream come true for any squid, arent they? No wonder you are steamrolling the game.

You called it blinkbolt, but made it smite targetting? For starters, make it an actual bolt so you need clear LoS for it to work. Cause electrical damage to anything adjacent to your path and even more damage to whatever is adjacent to your ending square. Do not require a specific target, you can fi...

This would be so much betterr for the early game, in those instances where you wear/wield ID a cursed item and the RNG just flipping refuses to load a remove curse scroll. Thats an interesting challenge but it starts to wear thin after a while, this change would allow you to work off your debt, so t...

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Sar wrote:next trunk update: removed bazaars, gold, distortion and abyss

Well that's a net win..

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You get a message that breaks the action when you enter a floor containing a rune and one of the major lords. You could look back through the messages log for this. If you somehow didn't notice it and left the floor, the rune is gone forever. Rune generation on Pan is based on chance, so while very ...

You have conjure flame, sticky flame, and fireball all easily castable. You can finish lair with that.

I definitely like the wretched star mechanic. Im not such a big fan of getting permanent malmutations (some of which really do hamstring your character) as this ruins player control and fun, and can introduce quite a bit of tedium as well (teleportitis, wtf really). If the amulet is gone and permane...

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I cant believe there is this much discussion about chei when there are so many other gods out there who suck documented ass. I suppose it is because Chei is kind of fun or rather giant across the board stat bonuses that let you cast high level spells in full plate and other assorted 'lets-break-craw...

It seems cool, but I think this is going to lead to a pretty simple metric. Either you find something which is clearly superior and you switch, destroying the artefact, or you don't switch, even when faced with a situation where switching is highly optimal in the short term . It's basically a no-bra...

MR is pretty much the singly most important resistance you can get in this game. Also damn you had a lot of terrible mutations.

I dont think its even necessary, tho admittedly I am one of many people who proposed the same thing when starting crawl.. There is so much gear tossed around that you can always find something useful, keeping in mind as well that 'scroll of ego armour' actually already exists in the form of ?EA + dr...

I like Lab. As it is, you can sometimes get layouts with mini-vaults (or at least small treasure hordes) and other monsters. And like many optional areas, nothing is forcing you to go in there if you know the minotaur is probably not your speed. It doesn't even have a rune. You can also lure the mi...

So after thinking about this thread a bit, and my many less than optimal ogre deaths, I went back and started an OgFE. I put my skills into conjurations at the get go, killed a couple monsters and wielded the first club I found. Then I immediately switched skills to M&F and fighting. From that p...

Keep in mind, if you screw up your noise/mana management, you are going to need to teleport. Luckily, you have like 20+ scrolls and probably a wand or two so hey...

You never tried a Mi/Tr/HO/GrBe? Of course I have. DEFE is substantially easier in the late game imo, where you can annhilate a major threat at the edge of LoS in one or max two keystrokes. Him and all of his friends, for that matter. I mean, I went into vaults and just spammed firestorm in every d...

DEFE is fine I think if not actually a bit OP.. Yes you have less hitpoints, but careful play pretty much mitigates that and your offence more than makes up for the rest. I dont see a problem with sticky here, either... in the earlier game, you make judicial use of conjure flame as a point, but othe...

I absolutely hate jellies eating unseen items. I know, statistically, they are just vacuuming up the garbage, but deep in my heart I feel that they are eating my sweet, sweet candy.

I found a vault once where you got stuck in a narrow corridor and a boulder beetle came smashing down towards you. It was actually quite a close shave as the vault appeared well before you would normally find a boulder beetle, but it also had the drawback in that it forced the player into a limited ...

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backslash will get you to the screen where you can turn on and off all the autocollect stuff, if you dont want to bother with an RC file.

With Mi or Ho, I like to wear GDA because I damn well can and I wont be casting anything past lvl3 anyhow, if that. But if I find plate of +rF or +MR in Orc or there-abouts and I have a good stack of ?EA ready, I will just go ahead and dump them there then. Never been super fond of the other dragon ...

You definitely want to learn conjure flame before you bother with fireball, also I wouldn't really bother with throw flame or whatever it is, your starter spell is fine even if the range is limited. Generally I throw things at monsters and start burning them when they get close enough. This has the ...

Since we are talking about Mi I ask here, how many levels is "safe" to clear of Ziggurat with no magic and only evocations? Not enough information for a meaningful answer. Zig floors are random, and you could get an early mummy/pan floor that gives you a real bad day, and all of it depend...

Had a minotaur once, wielding a randart greatsword, wearing crystal plate armour, spam a TON of summons with some rod he had picked up and proceed to beat me back to the intro screen. Fun times, fun times indeed.

dynast wrote: and i died because i couldnt care less about staying alive and continuing this run.

Lol I can't believe that ended up killing you, terrible luck indeed.

dynast wrote:
milski wrote: theres as much loot in abyss as there is everywhere else in the game

Elf2 has the distinct possibility of loading a butt-load of shops, as well as spawning a wiz lab or a bazaar.

Cant remember getting straight out one-shotted, but autoexplore has opened some doors that ended in my death within a couple turns. Usually something like a long, straight hallway opening into a room with 3 orc priests, or turning the corner and finding a certain wand-o-destruction wielding goblin p...

We need to code for all the floor curvature and imperfections first, I find it highly unlikely and totally unrealistic that a boulder beetle, once rolling, would continue on in a perfectly straight line without deviation, nay without even slowing down! What about friction?! This violates the 2nd law...

Ok put it this way then: Ice is great against Cerebov, but there are other bosses who are resistant to it. There are also far more endgame monsters who are resistant to ice than to elec. And this problem is duplicated for each and every boss. So what do you do? Obviously the best answer is either ho...

Lol Ok, so its only good for killing 99% of all the fights in extended you are going to get into, with the notable exception of the bosses who have their own weakness (and strengths) for which you typically always prepare for anyhow unless you want to die in extended. And since it is extended, that ...

Play a HOGl of Oka or Mahkleb.

Put on the biggest armours you can find when you find them. If you go Oka, use heroism. If you go Mahkleb, just enjoy finishing battles at full hitpoints.

You might want to try a hardier melee-oriented species/background first, to get the hang of some of the basics involved with transitioning out of the early game. What I see immediately when I look at your builds is that you have extremely low AC, decent EV, and extremely poor melee weapons equipped....

A few actually, missed that it was a +7 chainmail which is pretty decent. Just switch them and look at your AC and EV scores and you can see the difference, but remember that with enough armour skill and strength your EV will start to go up again. Dont worry about how much armour you need, you shoul...

For high hitpoint characters, rPois is pretty much pointless once you have cleared lair, with the exception of snake and spider simply because there are so many monsters that will constantly poison you if you melee them. once you are past this point in the game, rpois is a mild convenience and shoul...

I am seriously put off by the conspicuous lack of pizza in this idea. -1/12, would not enter this branch unless drunk on a tuesday morning and going to get fired anyways.

You got petrified, which should happen about never except the rare case of when you find yourself in close quarters with one. You always have a turn to step out of the dust, but tab will ignore that in case you were meleeing... Even if you do get dusted and cant get out of it, you have a few turns b...

Omg. Great. Now you need high stealth to further mitigate the problems caused by a level 9 translocation spell that does nothing to kill monsters but gives you some defenses so that you can maybe survive all the problems caused by casting the spell in the first place. Orrrr.... you could not even le...

...Ok, so you really don't get why noise/LoS management is so important. You should also note that its not the same as position management. When a monster sees you, it will usually shout if it can. That attracts monsters from outside of LoS towards the point of the shout. Note that the bigger your L...

and generate extra LoS which can be revoked INSTANTLY at ANY POINT IN TIME Can you revoke it retroactively? Nope? OH LOOK ITS STILL A PROBLEM. Also the tedium that this would introduce is staggering. and turned into a FREE Controlled Blink that GOES THROUGH WALLS. thats about the only part of the s...

Man you are missing the point entirely, and multiple people have been pointing out examples. One of the basics of this game is noise/LoS management. Attracting a whole bunch of bad guys to your general location is BAD . It doesn't matter if the spell gives you some resistance, it doesn't matter if t...

Alerting other things is not at all concerning... Might want to learn how the game actually works before designing level 9 spells ... things will shout just as much as seeing you as they will hearing other things shout. What part of "increasing your LoS will increase the radius of monsters ale...

Its not just torment that is bad with regards to expanded LoS, although that is certainly one of the most acutely dangerous factors. Even if you are "not there" and can avoid subsequent attacks, you are reporting your presence to a wider swath of enemies, period. So if you are fighting a f...

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