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I don't think you're supposed to spam hungering spells in the first place as a caster. Usually you want spells that you use all the time to become hungerless as soon as possible prioritizing it above pretty much anything else. Nausea is more of a nerf for Berserkers, as hunger cost for Berserk can't...

It will just encourage keeping junk armour and weapon to test for it making id-minigame even more exciting.

I find that the most useless mutations are horns, claws, talons, etc., since you'll eventually lose an armor slot. It would be great to see auxiliary attacks actually worth something so this doesn't feel like an irreversible cripple. Claws 3 give +6 base damage and bleeding to Unarmed. Not useless ...

Yes, it does.

Acquiring weapons is almost always a bad idea. If you're not going to cast spells, acquire staff (rod). Rod of destruction[ice], Rod of abjuration or Rod of demonology can make life so much easier, especially since you don't have any kind of range option but wands which won't last too long.

Just think, what would make the character angry? I dunno, finding artefact CPM for a Troll, maybe? On a serious note, some changes proposed here seem to make berserkitis a death sentence for squishier characters. Notice dangerous mob, tension triggers berserk and since you can't melee your way out ...

That's pretty cool. Looking forward to more.

Non-regenerating Makhled worshippers (DD, bloodless Vp) sometimes use Abyss to heal.

That it should be an especially crippling mutation for melee fighters doesn't really make sense.

Why?

Some bad mutations are especially dangerous for certain types of characters like, say, shoutitis is a deal breaker for stealth-based builds.

minmay: The only thing you'll achieve is making the forum even less useful for development purposes. It is already a sad fact that ideas get lost because they don't make the transition forum -> wiki. Rubbish threads like yours will surely not help. Oh, come on. That's just a joke in a Crazy Yiuf's ...

Race that's excellent at armour and doesn't have any slot restrictions, maybe? Okay... is having to wear a hat instead of a helmet actually that detrimental to the playstyle? Isn't it just a difference of 1 AC? Not really, it's just a stupid gimmick that I don't like, that's all. Plus, you miss on ...

Just out of curiosity, what niches are there that are still open that wouldn't require gimmicks to differentiate them? I imagine it'd have to be a spell-school differentiation. High-HP Summoners, or a really good dedicated FE, maybe. Race that's excellent at armour and doesn't have any slot restric...

cerebovssquire wrote:In addition, spell-like invocations aren't affected (for instance, you can't neutralise an orc high priest with it, sadly).

Yes, you can. Few swings of antimagic Executioner's axe neutralise an orc high priest just fine

The motto for 0.10: Gimmicks FTW.

I don't dislike ranged, just wanna ignore the Int stat and choose Str on every level. I only recognize some of those places you mentioned, apparently less of my knowledge from Crawl 400 b26 carries over then I thought. Ignorant question... What is 'Trunk'? Always had problems with piety on Ely and ...

AtT wrote:75% health: Fight better be almost over or you'll start running.
50% health: Actively getting the fuck out of wherever you are.
25% health: Didn't happen, you ran away and rested.

You can add this to your setting/init.txt:

Code:: hp_warning = 50 hp_colour = 75:yellow, 50:red

Heavy armoured fighters of TSO is very powerful. Blessed +9 Executioner's Axe will destroy everything. Daevas will help with tougher ones like Cerebov. Only Ziggurats are no-no without spells. Starting with Elyvilon and then switching to TSO before clearing the Crypt probably offers the smoothest pr...

Freezing cloud works great in Elf:5 (see message above). Abjuration helps, too. Identifying and taking out the most dangerous ones first make life a lot easier as well. But if you end up in open space against six strong ranged attackers, elves or not, you're pretty screwed even with 50+ shield and D...

Plus, "classic" stealthy, stabby KoBe isn't the only way to play this combo and kobolds aren't that bad at m&f. The problem is that merfolks aren't too good with anything but polearms, so giving them a spear at the start would only make sense as you will eventually switch to one anyway.

Also, does evocations reduce food cost of spells from rods, abilities from gear, etc.?

Edit: yes, it does, at least for spells from rods.

And Stone Arrow unlike LRD doesn't wake up the whole branch.

komondorok, what font do you use for putty?

Sorry for off-topic.

That's weird. For some reason, the further I go with the character, the less upset I am. I wasn't upset at all dying on D:1 with the Orb for example. Dying to killer bee on D:2 (wtf) on the other hand...

Centaurs are very, very powerful, but their food clock is so annoying, that I never play them, they're just not fun for me. If I absolutely had to win crawl for some reason, they would probably be my number one choice of a race, though.

Btw, isn't Unarmed with Claws 3 (+6 dmg) is going to be better then any two-hander except for ridiculous artefacts requiring about the same xp investment? It also can be used with a shield, too (you only lose off-hand punch which is insignificant).

Edit: nevermind, I can't read apparently...

I've reached Zot many times now and never ever I've been able to have a decent set of resistances by that point without switching rings and amulets around. It's not very likely to score such a gear in the course of a normal game I assume.

For melee types in trunk I found the most effective is to turn off everything (including Fighting), but weapon skill (focused), armour / dodging and shields until weapon skill reach 10 or so. Then focus weapon skill, armour and shields and turn on Fighting, T&D, Throwing / Slings / Evo / Invo. F...

I understand that much. What I don't get is what's the meaning of using weapon "more effectively with two hands" (in-game description)? It seems there are 4 types of weapons when it comes to one/two-handedness. :?:

That's news to me. Sorry, can you explain a little bit? That's a bit confusing... I thought it suffers some penalties, not as severe as, say, lajatang, but still.

Enchantment of X gives you random (1dX), fixed (skill and stats modifiers don't apply to it) bonus to the to-hit / damage. Damage enchantment also increases weapon's resistance to corrosion (+5 makes it immune, I think, too lazy to check). Slaying after the nerf becomes the same as enchantment (exce...

Fair enough. Still double sword is pretty underwhelming in my experience. And it's 1,5-hand weapon, so it still suffers shield penalties no matter the skill.

Nice. Just don't use it until your Long Blades hit 20 or so. Quickblade will serve perfectly well until then.

There are three source for damage numbers in the game. base damage, enchantment damage, ring of slaying damage. I think it would be nice to make them equal. I do not feel that rebalancing would be so hard. Ideal solution is to ditch the ancient D&D-like XdY system altogether. There are places w...

curare (another good candidate to use EW scrolls for btw) / paralysis needles Weren't these nerfed a bit recently against poison-resistant targets? Yes. Let those pack of resistances try to "resist" large rocks instead :D Not to mention, that a lot of otherwise very, very dangerous enemie...

I don't think you'll be able to upgrade quickblade (to-hit enchantment isn't very useful especially for accurate weapons like short blades). Btw, use it for now, speed and shield penalties on that mediocre sword is going to get you killed eventually and it's definitely not a weapon worth sacrificing...

I'd say go with large rocks. Steel javelins are very rare and Trog doesn't gift too much of them (in my last game he gifted a grand total of 5 by the time I hit Zot:5). On the other hand he does gift a lot of large rocks. Also large rocks are safe to stash almost anywhere. No one but cyclops picks t...

Does this change affect normal acquirement code or only Trog/Oka's gifts?

The problem is that Fighters in crawl right now are glorified wanderers the way you rely on RNG and roll with what dungeon or your gifting god give you. Not to mention that gifting code for casting gods is so much better, it's not even funny: imagine if, say, Trog were guaranteed on max piety to gif...

Serne wrote:I've yet to use TAB even once.

TAB.

Not even once.

The thing is, the further you're into the game, the more killing power becomes essential to survival. The only defence you can count 100% on is your HP. The only enemy that can't ruin your day before you know it, is a dead one. As for liches, they die in a few swings anyway, unless they pin you with...

As for suggestions, there are many games where pure melee is both fun, interesting and powerful. Upcoming battle manoeuvres, inherent reaching for polearms are steps in the right direction. And already you can see that polearms buff made game as a whole better. For example, gnoll packs on D:3-4 is i...

I think, minmay's proposal is the best of both worlds. It makes the whole damage calculation business much more intuitive without nerfing already weak characters.

the +2,+13 lajatang "Ugebboel" (weapon) {god gift, freeze, +Rage +Lev rPois SInv}

It's a bit ironic that the character is worshipping Trog and 3 rings I've identified so far are levitation, poison resistance and - you've guessed it - see invisible :lol:

Got into late game with heavy armour build first time since the introduction of cloud traps. Here's the problem: if you don't have a source of conservation in the late game, you might as well throw anything destructible away as soon as you get it as you won't get to use it anyway. I don't mind item ...

You haven't played crawl until you get hellfired to death with the Orb on D:1 few squares away from the exit

I'm with mikee on this one. SH is kind of underwhelming in the late game. I mean, I had like 70 shield (Large Shield of Ignorance) and still ate most ranged attacks. It's pretty weird , but shield is next to useless in the late dungeon, Vaults:8, Zot, etc. I'm not even talkig about post-game (haven'...

to check if you've missed something, use ctrl-F and search for gift. anything Trog has given you will show up. Hey, there's something I didn't know about this! k - [Lair:1] an uncursed anti-magic dagger {god gift} (+13) What is the (+13)? Does that mean n + m = 13 for hit/damage? If so, that's pret...

Thanks! Would it be useful for me to keep training Invocations? I assume I only this for the Okawaru powers, which generally work, but perhaps they become better or last longer if I increase my Invocations skill? And is there a maximum useful level of Traps & Doors, or should I just keep that o...

Worship Lugonu for the corruption ability,

As for why it takes forever to kill things, unbranded Short Blades are not very effective against high AC monsters and speed brand is probably the worst for this weapon type, pretty much any directly damaging brand is superior to it. Training up Maces & Flails might be a good idea, I think.

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