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There are some other Ds mutations that just feel like negatives or that I got jipped on the die roll. Titan mutation would just add a bit of flavor... Strength and some extra AC would be a good offset for the lower EV. I suggested the Pan lord sized tile because it was that way in my dream lol.

Had a dream last night where I got my Ds the Titan mutation. It did something to the effect of increasing the size of the character from Med->Large->Giant->Huge with a pan lord size tile at mutation level 3. The giant/huge levels grant the walk through deep water and other resistances. Or maybe gian...

Loot is always fun. More loot I say!

L:1 scumming with a MuNe and a flock of skeletons... the first OOD monster is a Troll Earth Mage that uses LRD as it's first move.

I would love to not have to do math (even simple math) to figure out if I'm at min-delay or not. Press @. Min-delay will either be at "quite fast" (for most weapons), or "very fast" (for whips and short blades). No math necessary. Alternately, count your hands. If it is one-hand...

I would love to not have to do math (even simple math) to figure out if I'm at min-delay or not.

I'd see what Plate Armor was dropped by the Orcs before pulling the trigger on a PDA... Especially with Trog. 3 EVP is the bee's knees for high AC if you want to cast, but you can probably find a better brand than rN+ just floating around on some Plate.

Dying

Nope, didn't see anything that would make me think there was a vault... Can't even post a save because my dumbass got distracted by my wife asking me something and tried to tab a super-slime.

Just did an Orc:4 that had no obvious vault. There are 4 shops scattered across the level, but aside from Roka there was only 1 Warlord, a handful of knights, 2 High Priests, 2 of the red cloaks, and a bunch of popcorn. There aren't any other stairs I'm missing and no chutes on Orc:3. Is this by des...

https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2133 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8006 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4697 This has been covered quite a few times, sadly. Also, site search is janky and "poison magic" in GDD "...

I'm with the OP in that my 1H+S characters fair far better than my 2H characters. Even knowing that 2H can dish out more damage. It may come down to play style. I'm usually rather sloppy and the SH tends to help out a bit there. Sovek... any reason you aren't considering tridents? They dish out slig...

How can you say Veh was a "total flop"? You're at D:10 and he has gifted you multiple spells that can be used to kill poison resistant stuff... and you are just about to get the really good stuff on your next gift or two. You're making things really difficult on yourself by not relying on ...

In local play score is pretty neat, because you see how your score compares to your other games. At least for me, what dpeg said was true. If I got further, the game ended up higher on my highscore list. Of course I didn't care about the number, but it was nice to see some progress, especially afte...

accidently attempting to move and getting blasted by acid several times. And Chei is better somehow? Amulet of faith skews the results, same with finding a usable elec weapon, and getting iron as my dragon type, and getting 2 wands of heal wounds, I got really lucky in this game. But still, I have ...

The argument was what is more useful for killing poison resistant things... at low level... where such things matter most. Things like Amulet of Faith skew the results wildly... It takes about 2 dungeon levels with Faith for Veh to gift you a spell that will kill poison resistant monsters. And I'll ...

They were sold out by the time I got a chance to go back to that store

Vehumet gifts you non-poison damage dealing spells pretty quickly as a Venom mage which effectively removes one of the biggest problems with the VM. You're also pretty likely to be gifted Poison and/or Freezing Clouds which end up being pretty easy to get castable since you've focused on Conj, Poins...

bcadren wrote:Hunga Munga

Regardless of what happens with this thread, I want to be able to have an Ogre that throws Hunga Munga at people.

But how do you not bump into a horde of fiends without using autoexplore? The difference is running into the horde of fiends without all your ammo or with all your ammo. The safe way to handle this would be apportation, which would mean multiple casts using aweful targetting mechanics... which is t...

The nice thing about PArrow versus PCloud is that cloud kills baddies in like 15 turns and arrow kills them in like two. Cloud is absolutely more MP-efficient (against crowds) and great versus things you can kite but you can't safely kite everything. I regularly use cloud mechanics to poison enemie...

I usually tackle Slime before making the switch. Finesse makes Slime:7 pretty easy. I'd equip some other junk that Oki has gifted you in shield, head, and cloak slots since those bonuses aren't going to help you much in Slime and why waste the enchant scrolls. I'd go back to Shoals and grab a few Ja...

I've only used Shatter in Tomb once. After clearing the initial part of Tomb:1 I shattered one of the hallway corners closest to the upstairs. It still didn't feel as easy as doing the normal hallway clear, but at least it skipped Tomb:2 welcome party.

Shatter is much better for stealthy characters like SpEn of Ash. Getting pan rune without seeing panlord is fun. This reminds me of something KoboldLord once said... Shatter loudness is not a problem unless you use Shatter to explore territory :) You use Scry and high Stealth to find the rune, then...

Sandman25 wrote:Shatter is much better for stealthy characters like SpEn of Ash. Getting pan rune without seeing panlord is fun.

This reminds me of something KoboldLord once said...

Tiktacy wrote:Seriously, I have more fun taking a dump than I do playing a demigod.

Don't talk shit about taking dumps.

On a semi-related note... Which of the L9 nukes is best for Zigs? I've only tried Fire Storm and always end up running out of mana way before the bad guys all die

XuaXua wrote:I hear if you get 27 Earth and 27 Air and memorize both Shatter and Tornado, you get access to Shatnernado, which summons a giant commanding wind beast with something on its wing.

Is this anything like Beastly Appendage at 27 TMut where you transform into Rob Lowe?

You might be able to find a !CureMut too, they're pretty common in Zigs. Stat death happens pretty quick though

Grimm wrote:I once head butted an orc. At least I think he was an orc.

How much do they charge for mirror replacement these days?

You really only need enough STR to offset the penalties of whatever armor you're planning to wear. I have a MiFi that has Death's Door at 4% in GDA with a large shield. He won't be able to cast L9 spells... probably not even with wizardry... but he has access to plenty of utility spells. Thats a bit...

Found some lychee and rambutan at my local super market... I didn't get them because they looked scary

Anyone have them before? What do they taste like? I might have to get one of each and some beef jerky and go traipsing through the basement at work with my hatchet.

Pretty happy with the mutation spread on this little guy, but hoping for some advice on kit. I know resists aren't to big of a consideration, but with Wild Magic is Archmagi still going to be worth it over Robe of Resistance? There is also a mottled dragon hide laying around somewhere, but I have a ...

Why wouldn't you do elf? Its so easy and usually contains some decent loot. I usually do it after clearing D to V but before I do V as long as I've got some decent spells on my casters or a wand of dig/disint on a melee.

Wth... didn't you ask this like a week ago? And no.. you can't re-enter at all. Its a one and done... you can scum pan for more entrances though.

Also...

Octopode fully decked out in all 9 items from the Octopus King.

And I'd rock that shit so hard.

Whats wrong with Cloak of the Thief? Its the best defense against the combined forces of torment/hellfire! Plus, SInv!

Grimm wrote:racial finishing moves pretty much need to happen

Trolls would never have to stop and butcher corpses again!

Amnesiac wrote:So even if you train your weapon skill to 27, you still get max 4 dmg?

No, because you equipped the Ring of Blarg {Wiz, MR, SInv, Str+3} instead of the Ring of Blorg {Wiz, MR, SInv, rPois}.

Minotaur Fighter with polearms, use trident and shield, Okawaru, then transform to TSO at end.

Fannar, for that extra showmanship when Ice Ice Baby comes on karaoke.

Interviewed a guy recently and saw him laughing about find Summon Butterflies in a spellbook on Google+. Asked him what he would use it for, but he never even memorized the damn thing

Eh, it isn't too hard to get Fire Storm and LCS castable for most casters that aren't wrapped in toilet paper... At least in a 15 runer. Removing the training malus would be nice though so I could pump air for the all powerful Elf clearing spell.

It may be contrary to standard advice, but I'm always most successful with my casters when I train Spellcasting and focus Schools (+Spellcasting, *Conjure)... I much prefer melee and for whatever reason my MP usually runs out quickly. Training SC alongside my school means I usually have enough mana ...

I love having infinite-Pan. I'll leave a beefy melee there and just go rampage whenever I feel the frustration of too many deaths on Pre-Lair characters. Is it tedious? Sure. But its my time to waste and has exactly 0 effect on anyone except maybe my wife.

njvack wrote:You get trophies in your morgue file under "Vanquished Creatures." They're especially nice as they don't take up inventory slots or weigh anything.

But I can't put them in my trophy room...

minmay wrote:Ok well if animate skeleton and animate dead and animate remains didn't exist then you might make sense but they do so you don't

The OP seemed more interested in some kind of trophy in general... skeletons were just a suggestion.

The word optimal was never mentioned... in fact, OP said "useless". I always butcher uniques and keep the "trophies" like hides and special weapons. They add nothing but flavor, but I like having the trophies. If anything its suboptimal, unnecessary, but adds enjoyment for some o...

I've escaped with multiple characters much lower than XL20... there was some luck involved in that the exit portal appeared before something I couldn't handle... but to say its unsurvivable is a stretch.

I actually like Abyss. With the improvements its a lot less tedious and way more fun. Its a nice change of pace from the standard pull everything into hallways or use big nukes with a path to the stairs.

OpWz is rather nice. The utility of Wz plus their +3 poison means you can generally get to mid-game at least.

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