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I had done well early game with the SpAs, but once I got to about Lair I found that everything would wake up before I could get close enough to stab stabby. Rerolled a SpEn and he seems to be doing well so far

Royal Jelly is the Slime "boss".

Also, at what level does stealth become useful? I tried a SpAs and even at 12 Stealth he was getting spotted all the damn time. I spent way more time needle and dart kiting than I did stabbing.

I don't know that it matters what skill apts you are dealing with. IIRC, Ash transfers skill points. However many skill level one +3 skill is at with x skill points will correlate with how many another -3 skill is at at the same amount of points. This is just from memory from another post I saw a wh...

I'd personally go OgGl if I wanted a melee Ogre.

Fighting 3
M&F 4
UC 2
Throw 2
Dodge 2

Plus you start with a shield to get a head start on Shield skill, not to mention the damage avoidance potential from the shield.

Zot is on D27 in its own vault with Dragons and Draconians. Careful using berserk as you get deeper - When the effects run out you are vulnerable due to Slow. Trog's Hand and/or BiA + Spriggan speed would be great panic buttons. One neat trick that someone told me about early on was to use BiA to te...

MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:How should it be pronounced?

Kee-koo

Carefully clear Snake down to 4. If you feel like you might be in over your head then you probably aren't ready for Snake:4... Good thing about Sp though is that you're so much faster than the Nagas that you shouldn't have much trouble falling back... There are some fast snakes though, but they aren...

If you aren't set on a shield that flaming exe axe is the way to go. Hydra die so easy to flaming slash.

This won't really help since you are Trog, but good info to know -> If you've found a book with animate skeleton, you can use that to generate corpses without needing to unwield a weapon.

AtT wrote:lol fartnugget. and spriggans dont eat bacon..?

Spriggans make those uptight vegan girls (no offense to any uptight vegan girls) look like a fat guy at McD's.

In .10 Monks get ** piety to whichever god they choose :) If your SpBe has rPois then you might consider doing Hive for cheap exp, whole lotta surplus food and some items. I'll often do Hive even before Lair if I've got a build capable of handling an Unseen Horror (damn things kill me all the time o...

I don't say any of them... My wife would likely file for divorce if I started talking nerdy to her.

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I agree, Grimm, but in Lair its often hard to find just such a defensible position. I usually just run if I can't find a good position that leaves me exposed to more than 2 elephants at a time. They usually die easy to Tr claws though

I just know that I'll use it in a clutch against an enemy right next to me and have the one and only cloud form right on me :( I haven't had a chance to play with it yet, but is it possible to increase the chance based on available squares? Not expand out to a 9x1 row, just have a higher chance in a...

TrMo of Oki or TrMo of Trog both work really well too - Especially in .10 where Mo start at ** piety. Hero and Berserk are both great tools for a young Tr. Once you get either of these you basically have a free ride to Lair, assuming of course you don't get ganked by a nasty unique or something - An...

dpeg wrote:The credits go to mumra. There is a Kikubaaqudgha altar by TGW where a human is caged, dies and is turned into a zombie.

I've seen that one, and also the Trog wizard torture lol.

Great work, mumra!

I came across a really neat Fedhas alter that has plants that grow and stuff... I'd love to see more like this, maybe Yed/Kiku with corpses being animated and such. Well done to whoever created this

Acquire a staff. You'll get a rod, and it will probably be pretty useful. Jewellery acquirement is junk even more often than armour acquirement is, and you're already getting a lot of acquirement-level weapons from Trog. +1, Trogites should acquire staffs for the rods... definitely a solid addition...

Its as if millions of noobs around the world suddenly cried out...

AtT wrote:After killing a few mobs as a MDFi on D1, I realized how boring they were and left the dungeon.

LOL, at least with MDFi its just one button boredom... most casters its zbfzafzafzafzafzafzaf5ozbfzafzafzafzafzafzaf5...

I came across at least one starting entry vault with no visible doors. It is a square shape with 2 higher tier monsters in the central square, you start in the outer square. Players have to search for doors to get out. Not only is this a problem with burning satiation at the start of the game, a tim...

@ dpeg - No worries, was just an idea and never even considered startscumming implications.

@nicolae - I love Mesmerize, Bring It, and Satiation for kills

Bring it + Mesmerize would be epic lol

mumra wrote:New background "Gardener" - starts with a trowel that can be used to dig shafts and transplant plants. Innate mutation "Green Fingers".

Would need his own spellbook to go along with Fedhas though...

Summon Badger
Summon Snake

@dpeg - You mentioned wanting the randoms to be rare, but what about having a guaranteed random god altar on D:1. That way a player has the choice of either rolling the dice with a random god and getting a head start on piety building or they can hold off and wait for Temple. I doubt many players wo...

You could just assign a weight to all of the piety gain, piety loss, and powers. Gain <= 10 Loss == Gain Powers <= 8 Or something... A generic list could look like this: --Gain/Loss-- Kill Demons +/- 4 Over Time +/- 2 Kill Living +/- 6 Sacrifice Corpse + 5 Corpse Rot - 5 --Powers-- Resistance +1 Has...

GhMo is also good if you are having to deal with ghosts before you can get Dispel Undead.

Alternatively, a TrBe can demolish the game up until Lair without much effort. You can trade 1 ghost later for several ghosts earlier.

General recommendation for 1-handed is to go Maces & Flails and look for a good Demon Whip.

Oki is actually a pretty decent god for unarmed Trolls. Hero and Finesse greatly improve your damage potential and you have even better chances of getting armor with good bonuses (I was rocking +11 slay for a while), not to mention that he will eventually gift you a strong non-slashing weapon to be ...

joellercoaster wrote:Because the Internet exists, someone will actually implement this.

Nah, dual wield and cooking food are on the will not implement list already

Of course, 24 ring slots would be the shit.

I get the feeling Trog's lines should be pretty simple. For example, when he sends someone after you, it could be something as short and simple as "DIE!" or "DIE, <player name here, in all caps if possible>!" I definitely get the feeling that Trog is the kind of guy(god) that al...

Minion Speech Using monster speech text files, we can give different gods' minions lines to randomly shout out. This is how existing Crawl speech works; and you can have different messages for different statuses (confused, frightened, casting a spell, etc.) For Nemelex minions we can have have &quo...

General consensus seems to be Clear D to L, L to L:7, Orc, Shoal/Swamp/Snake to 4, D to Vault, V to V:7. If you can handle bees then do Hive whenever you can. If you have high MR, SInv, and a way to deal with mass summons and ranged attackers then you could try Elf. Clearing it to E:4 shouldn't be b...

Ya... you can easily rocket to ***** at the cost of only * Kiku piety...

Would it be easier to build Kiku piety, burn a bunch of corpse delivery, switch to Fedhas, then rocket piety?

Code:: the amulet "Smuq Theaf" (around neck) {rMut +Rage rF+ Dam+4}

See the discussions on c-r-d and on the wiki . We don't want to give all undeads the ability to cross deep water. There was a proposal to make them dissolve in water, but then why wouldn't they dissolve in shallow water? The issue was left open. Mummies would definitely avoid water at all costs... ...

Woot! Finally got my first win! Ended up clearing crypt, Zot 1-4 was a breeze. Only issue on Zot 5 was an Ancient Lich that summoned a fiend that spammed Torment. The escape wasn't nearly as hard as I expected... killed maybe 3 things that were in the way and 1 uncontrolled tele away from some pan l...

Apparently you can't use Freezing Aura on Javelins because they aren't weapons... Can't vorpalize them either.

AtT wrote:Apparently Prince Ribbit leaves a human corpse..?

"A handsome prince before he was cursed, he now adventures for a cure."

Basically a ripoff of the Frog Prince. Try kissing him some time.

Quaff potions of Mutation and eat mutagenic chunks and hope for claws mutation would help your unarmed.

Unarmed really needs Unarmed Combat skill and/or claws to do solid damage.

Can Octopodes equip testicles or are they considered a helmet?

Nemelex:(The minions will be hard to get right because monsters currently use neither decks nor god effects. We will have to substitute something, but that is another topic.) Nemelex is described as a trickster god. I would think that stealth, blink, distortion/dispersal (granted this is lugonu's s...

Last Roxanne I came across with my TrMo I just popped a Hero, waltzed up to her, and be the crap out of her.

Ok, switched around some gear, at +11 slay, rF++, rN++, rMut, SInv. Also upgraded to a Large Shield and will bring along spare rings to get me rC+ or rPois/rElec. I've got a nice stack of Javelins, plenty of EW scrolls that won't be used for anything, and a few branding spells that I could use to vo...

Devs should have their name added to the list for their favorite god.

Also, could add folks from the forums... maybe based on thanks or ratings or something. Wouldn't you all just love to kill KoboldLord?

Doing very well with this character and would like some input on how to proceed next for a 3-runer. Cleared Dungeon, Orc, Elf, Lair, Swamp, Shoals, Hive, Vault. Still have Vestibule, but from past experience not expecting anything too bad there. My main question relates to whether I can handle Zot n...

I came across at least 1 distortion brand that was ID'd. I go unarmed, so I don't usually bother IDing weapons.. I only cleared about 1/3 of the level too.

Just a follow up. I ended up encountering the Enchantress on my trek through the forest and she died without any problems (faerie armor she dropped was rather lackluster). None of the other Spriggans really gave me any problems either, except for the Druids. Their tree spells just do way too much da...

If you're a non-caster troll, you should probably just dive to the next level or backtrack to another branch. TrMo of Oki... Very limited spells with horrible cast rates :( Thanks for the advice guys, but I think I'll play this one smart and follow KL's advice to skip it. Kobold, would you mind ela...

I just encountered my first dungeon level Spriggan Forest. I'm curious what I can expect here. I started poking around and almost got my big troll ass handed to me by midgets on fireflies and another one wearing a big mask. Is lighting the whole forest on fire a viable tactic? Any particular resists...

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