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I'm playing a character who is carrying the "Black Torch". He has turned out to be quite versatile and utilizes many different tools (ways) while progressing through the dungeon. I haven't played for a number of years, and certain things in the game have changed, so sometimes I catch mysel...

After reading this, I decided to make sure I take some pictures for the next character that would do The Tomb of Ancients level 3... Since I started playing again, there are two descending hatches on the second floor; a Northern which drops on the West side, and a Southern which drops on the East si...

Build-Up to Ziggurat Phase: I don't remember too much about this time, because after days of just running through ziggurat levels the mind gets a little numb. (But) Since I had an overall plan, I just got into the vampire mentality and along with my chosen god, played stealthy, sneaky, staby, cunni...

duvessa: I'm pretty certain I can't do that. Tried all you suggested prior to my post, read in game commands, etc. Still could only potentially fire "missile" type stuff. Yes, in the past I could fire anything by doing "F" and then selecting from inventory. Can't do that anymore...

Now I'll talk about things I noticed different and/or certain changes in the game (that I'll likely disagree with). If one of you reading this knows of a developer that wants the perceptions of someone like me, kindly point him to this section. Thanks. - You changed the mutation system in a way that...

Morgue Part 5: 201919 | D:10 | Identified the ring "Bihev" {Str+2 Stlth+} (You found it on level 27 of a ziggurat) 201920 | D:10 | Identified the ring "Wothriweu" {rC+ Str+4} (You found it on level 27 of a ziggurat) 202166 | Geh:1 | Entered Level 1 of Gehenna 202920 | Geh:7 | Ent...

Morgue Part 4: 182726 | Zig:25 | Entered Level 25 of a ziggurat 182828 | Zig:25 | Noticed Jomal the pandemonium lord 182849 | Zig:25 | Killed Jomal the pandemonium lord 182943 | Zig:25 | Gained mutation: You expend magic power (3 MP) to strengthen your wands. [a cacodemon] 183062 | Zig:25 | Found th...

Morgue Part 3: 146962 | Zig:1 | Entered Level 1 of a ziggurat 146987 | Zig:2 | Entered Level 2 of a ziggurat 146987 | Zig:2 | Found the ring of the Mage {Wiz MR++ Int+3} 147020 | Zig:3 | Entered Level 3 of a ziggurat 147020 | Zig:3 | Found the ring of Phasing {EV+8} 147049 | Zig:3 | Reached skill le...

Hi everyone. Old time player coming back to DCSS for a bit. I'm going to write this character build and my ideas associated with it, for those of you who like to read and learn about how others approach the game. The current experts might well chuckle at some of what will follow, but for those of yo...

Hi scott9027,

I made this guy just for you.

I'll happily answer any questions there.

Hiya, Posted some things in some new player threads, and then wanted to make certain my advice was sound. That led to me putting my other characters' on hold, and started playing this guy... When he was a child, the other minotaur children would make fun of him, due to his odd shaped horns. They loo...

Hi scott9027, That looked like a nice character, good stats, nice gear, etc. I don't know how gargoyles go, because my game don't have them, but for a gronk type, looks like your skills were in the appropriate places. I've read a number of your posts, and it sounds like you're trying to push too har...

hey guys, No, the lajatang of speed is available in a shop somewhere, I know cause it's on my "$" list. It's a +1,+2 lajatang of speed going for ~3700 gold. I have enough enchant weapon scrolls to bring it up to +5,+5 no problem either. Same goes for the lajatang of electrocution, I could ...

Pisano wrote:... and it turns out smite is really good against low HP spriggan.

Lesson -- don't play characters you care about while watching a movie.

Anything is "really good" against low hit point spriggans - have to not get hit, as best solution.

Hope the movie had a happy ending!

Depends on how you're playing the VpEn, by the the end game. If you're staying mostly with stabbing through deliberations, then Ashenzari is ideal. If you have branched into mainly summoning, then Sif Muna is a good candidate. If you went with blasting magic, then Vehumet. If you are using combat mo...

Ya, tasonir - you are making me think about those stats now. Perhaps something like Blade Hands would improve the damage output? Would mean I would have to dedicate some experience to transmutations and unarmed combat though. A staff of earth can hit quite hard also, at least only earth magic skill ...

Phase 5: Pushing Deeper Just going deeper into the dungeon and vaults, mostly. Trying to gain experience and, particularly some levels in fighting skill. Had to ask for finesse once more. Several draconians, 3 death drakes, 2 swamp drakes, 2 fire drakes, and then a gold dragon came along. Too much ...

I want to say I'm going to quit this game, but I'm not. delerado : You are a DEFE of Vehumet. You are character level 11. You have the spells of; Flame Tongue, Throw Flame, Conjure Flame, and Sticky Flame - all at hungerless. You have no Axes skill (not that you would want some, any ways). So then,...

Phase 4: Four Way Clear All right, so my next goal was to clear two Lair branches, the Elven Halls, and the Dungeon to level 19. I complained about not having fire resistance before, and ol' Okawaru must have heard my pleas, as his next gift was a robe of rF++. It has a "re-curse" string ...

I think you should have buffed the first time, maybe a potion of might/agility/haste. Didn't you know that she hits hard? Well you might have thought that you are as good, because you are a spriggan with a vampiric lajatang but it doesn't matter who you are, first time you meet her she'll be tough ...

Rivalry: So then, I'm in the process of clearing out the Spider's Nest, things are going relatively okay, considering I have no poison resistance then... Agnes comes into view. She is wielding a runed lajatang. Oh man. This is a little early for my liking. I was hoping to be like character level 18...

Phase 3: Systematic Clears of Three Areas After establishing my depot and clearing out all the dungeon above it, in Phase 2; I then proceeded to clear out the Lair, main dungeon to around level 15, and the Orcish Mines. When one area had too many awake monsters, or was getting too difficult, I woul...

The Warmaster Bestows: Okawaru's next gift to Senga, was a wizard's hat. Senga put it on, and makes her head look floppy, compared to the cap she started with. But not wanting to displease the warmaster, she wears it yet. Next came a crossbow of evasion. Senga considered it some, but decided that s...

Phase 2: Establish Base of Operations Well, immediately after leaving the temple, I Identified a scroll of acquirement. I needed a decision on the spot, in order to keep the game going. What to ask for? Decisions, decisions, decisions... Finally I asked for a weapon, and got a lajatang of electrocu...

Background: I got intrigued by the efforts of ZoFy in this thread , and tried some experiments. The concept of not picking up anything and going only with what you start with is quite a challenge - in an already challenging game. At first, I wanted to see how far I could get with just pure raw mele...

I've been thinking even more about this... Such a challenge as this one, demands creative thinking, and developing new approaches in order to succeed. You'll have to play a vampire to the hilt. Meaning as an intelligent, devious, and cunning creature of the eternal night. Coupled with the few hexes ...

Hi ZoFy, First of all; congratulations for even attempting such a conduct. You have my curiosity aroused now, and I have been studying various background and god choices to figure a successful attempt. ... my current itemless VpEn. He got pretty damn lucky several times. First of all, unlike his pre...

Sorry for delaying in responding everyone - got busy in real life all of a sudden... I consider acquiring gold suboptimal unless you have a specific item you want to purchase in a shop. For example in my current game I have 6k gold without any precious items in shops. I hear you, but it was a read i...

I like using spears the most. Seems like they're the best compromise between "to hit' , "damage", and their wight ratio. Daggers come in second. Handaxes are too heavy. Clubs are heavier than daggers. Darts are okay for weakling spellcaster types, but I'll try and use daggers over the...

Have some time to play again, and my current project is an inspiration from posts on the subject by nago , and ZoFy . The idea is to try and play a dedicated assassin background - hence; throwing, stealth, and stabbing. It is quite interesting to discover how needles work with some throwing skill (a...

Okay, so then you must also depend on having enough potions of restore ability, in order to counteract the stat drains from hell effects? Sometimes I'll get hit with back-to-back drains in the same stat (usually strength), and that means I need to exit. Other times, I'll need a potion just to find t...

Hi mopl, Hmmm.... Good question, now I have to dissect the character some (good thing I posted several morgues)... Looks like I went with my traditional; +2 strength, +4 intelligence, +3 dexterity, on the nine level ups... Your count on the mutations and gear checks out... Okay, found what you're lo...

One of my favorite quotes from DCSS: You feel a bloodthirsty glee! Ja, they're fantastic on vampires, but it depends so much on what your character type and play style is. In order for it to steal life, means you have to be adjacent to the target. Once past the normal dungeon, it will be quite rare ...

Hybrid style is much harder to coordinate than a pure fighting, or a pure magic type of character. There's a lot to juggle, especially knowing what to skill when , and becoming bewildered by all the choices of; fighting, spell casting, item use, god abilities. There are even different hybrid styles;...

It's my personal vice to always clear Vestibule as soon as I hit D:21 and then go rampage in Dis if I'm serving Kiku and have Simulacrum. I actually consider Dis in this fashion to be easier than the rest of D, provided I have appropriate equipment. ... Thankfully, Cocytus is almost as accessible f...

Okay, thank you prozacelf. This guy got stalled, and even though I tried two more times to get him going again, I just couldn't get enough healing in Pandemonium to keep him going. With spell slinging vampires, I never had a problem, not that I can recall any ways. But with a close in combat one, su...

Scrotar wrote:Okay, you're GONNA become an eight armed splat mark. But you're GONNA have fun.

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Oh man. Quick; someone who is artistically apt - please make a picture of this!

:lol:

Klown wrote:Which weapons don't make more heads?

Uhmmm...

Dagger, quick blade, anything in the Maces & Flails category, spear, trident, demon trident, trishula, staff, quarterstaff, all thrown and/or fired.

Did I miss any?

1. No. The portal will close forever, once you escape. The entrance fee has a "no returns" policy (just like everything else in the dungeon).
2. #1 should make this point moot.

Conclusions and Acknowledgements: Man, I'm so glad that this is over. It really turned out into a major project, and a huge time sink, for me. I tried to demonstrate how strong a somewhat arch-type of build was possible in DCSS. Most of the time you read about optimal cookie-cutter builds, or how t...

Final Morgue (part 2, creature kill list): Vanquished Creatures Asmodeus (Geh:7) Gloorx Vloq (Pan) Mnoleg (Pan) the royal jelly (Slime:6) Dispater (Dis:7) Lom Lobon (Pan) Khufu (Crypt:4) 19 ancient liches 3 orbs of fire (Zot:5) the Serpent of Hell (Dis:7) 35 greater mummies Saint Roka (D:17) Boris (...

Hokay... Finished and escaped with the Orb. :) I stabbed everything except for two orb guardians, an ancient lich (but Silence took care of that), and a moth of wrath, in Zot with that -2,-4 dagger. After I picked up the orb, on my way to the upstairs, an orb of fire came into view. I simply just wa...

Well, I'm happy so far that I have been able to catch near everything in the Realm of Zot asleep. I'm also delighted that the -2,-4 dagger is proving to be quite adequate, and demonstrates some of the things I had pointed out in the original posts of this thread. The following is a sequence from 10 ...

I'm going to move this to CYC. ... All right, thanks Grimm. Now that it's no longer in GDD, I can comment on it. :) When I first read the original post, I could not help but think of the Hirogen from Star Trek - Voyageur. Quote from the linked site: After the Hirogen caught their prey, they removed...

Hmmm... Just thought of something: I will not be taking everything I used in the extended game with me to the Realm of Zot. And I certainly won't be stopping by, and rooting through my depot, sifting through items, when I have the Orb in hand. (lol) So I'll post now the gear I was using during the a...

All right, nice one with the Orb of Fire stab! :) But tell me, how do you like the general play style, of sneaking around and not making any noise? Do you find you can pick and choose, how and when to stab? As the game progressed, did you start feeling more and more comfortable with the character an...

I wanted to play a pure EE, killing things mainly with Earth spells... So then, why do you have Fireball, Bolt of Draining, and Dispel Undead in your memorized spell list? But until now I didn't find Iron Shot... You will find it, don't worry. Elf, Slime, Vaults, Crypt, Tomb are all still open, and...

Remove hydras from the game? No. In fact, put in more hydras. I am concerned that there aren't enough hydras. How come there aren't any hydras in the Realm of Zot, Lower Hells, Pendemonium, or Slime Pits? Is it perhaps because they have a difficult time in locating mates to pair with? Or because pla...

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