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One thing I like about the "rise from the ground" mechanic: it can really neuter stealth, maybe even make it backfire. Instead of slowly crawling forward and pulling asleep enemies, you suddenly find yourself in the middle of them? If Pr(a zombie rises) is related to stealth, you could be ...

I would not try to invest in a large shield because it takes a lot of ranks to neutralize the spell casting penalty. Well, this would be true if OP were talking about a large shield (25 shield skill, -5 SP, pretty big casting penalty). But that's not what OP talking about, this is about the shield ...

Nice job, especially avoiding stat-death! Looks like you kept your head together on several close calls. A side note on ammo: with Oka/Trog as gods, you can afford to go archery as early as you want (after you get an acceptable late-game melee weapon, if you want to be conservative). Ammo gifts + fl...

HA! Now I feel really dumb. Yeah, I had just dropped my distortion demon trident in Hell before running Gehenna, after keeping it with me in the other three hells and Pan and never needing it. Completely slipped my mind that I had it. And yes, teleportitis was more help than hindrance for most of To...

Almost finished this one. Actually, the golden rune was a pretty phyrric victory. And not very pretty. After reading through the Naga/chei stuff, I thought I'd see how it works in trunk. Honestly, I didn't have much trouble with the early game, even without constriction until lvl 13. Poison spit sti...

I don't think losing early game constriction is that big a problem. Early game naga should still be making full use of the spit attack anyway. Death at a distance is always good. You can eat poisonous corpses (kobolds, mites, etc.) to make up for the extra hunger. A little early stealth can be a lif...

Whelp. Waited a week before posting this. I thought it was worthwhile in case there were any lingering questions about the power of longbows (at high skill levels). I got 99/100ths of what I wanted out of this character before I splatted pointlessly. http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Midpoint/morgue...

the ring of Owekan {Hunger- +Inv rElec rPois rF++ MR}

Yeehaw, I found this in Slime after complaining to the RNG about not having a nice source of rF.
And to think I was pretty happy with it when I though it was Hunger+ instead of Hunger-. :oops:

Yet Another Stupid Noob wrote:I will often just keep attacking it if I am at 35% heath and a mob is at 10% instead of disengaging, resting, and coming back when I am healthy again.

I also will keep exploring when I am not at 100% health/mana.

I don't win alot.

This can often be correct play when Xom'ing it

Nicely done. Looks like you took out 4 pan lords on the way up. Swap out one of your big conjurations for controlled blink on a similar build and you'd be good to go for Pan (well, it worked for me, at least).

Midpoint, yup. Just thought I'd throw it out there before the clans are locked down later today. If you want to keep it to 'no wins yet', I'm ok either way.

I'm coming off the hubris of a couple nice (offline) wins, but I've got no clan, no wins, in the tourney yet. Mind an extra player? btw, console play has been... an adjustment. I tried tiles on CDO, but it just ran too slow for me. I've had to learn some really useful key combinations in the meantime!

Staff + shield is OK because you shouldn't be fighting anyways This definitely worked for me. Melee range is where bad things happen to DEs. In my last game, I didn't start using melee until Pan, when I finally found a staff of cold. At that point, I was tired of wasting MP on imps and other Pan tr...

Now I feel like I'm getting the hang of things! Also, DE's have some insane skill aptitudes. I forgot that Conjurers are randomly fire or ice, so the name was slightly inappropriate :roll: Almost all of this game consisted of me blasting the snot out of everything in LOS, then backing up a step or t...

Whew! Done. I managed not to distract myself with extra runes and got out with the orb. Zot 5 was a pain, though, so it was really tempting to go to Pan instead. Corrupt level failed spectacularly (can't complain, it was very useful for most of the rest of the game, trivializing a lot of end branche...

I find this varies a lot with the character build. Some, I feel solid until I'm at single digit HP or there's a clear danger. Others, I'm always on edge.

Awesome. And inspiring. I need to clean up my game a bit.

Finally, ready to take this character home with 5 runes. It will be my first win (I keep making questionable choices at the end to explore more, which is sated now that I've seen most parts of the extended endgame with various dead characters). Looking for a little advice on reorganizing spells (no ...

Well, I tried to :) I puckered up as soon as I saw the first greater mummy. I blinked as far towards the exit as I could with my last blink scroll, blew as many charges on my healing wand as I thought was worthwhile, then tried to berserk through the summon spam to the portal. Didn't quite make it. ...

I think I may have a problem. I keep taking it just a little too far with my most promising characters. Or way too far. Inspired by Tasonir's struggle, I decided to run a DDBe. Turned into quite a solid character. Not one I planned to take for more than three runes (got barnacled, decaying and silve...

Ouch. Well, in (partial) answer to your original question, yes, they will eventually either wander away, or fall asleep, or both. Of course, they could just all fall asleep near the stairs. A few more levels of stealth can help a lot here. A mob like that will have at least one ugly wake up within a...

No scrolls of identify or remove curse could very, very quickly become a drag. No god abilities/spells would just be a pure fighting DG (no spells). Taking away evokables and you've got a different game entirely. Like a "tab only" game. Even if it's possible, I'm not sure it would be very ...

Blech. If there's a lesson here, it's look at how poisoned you are (I know in tiles the color of the "pois" tag indicates severity, not sure about console). Red level poison is very, very bad. I don't see any cure in your morgue, so I guess you were stuck. Maybe could have tried triple dra...

Agree on keeping freezing cloud. Repel missiles can go, and should be pretty common in books you've found. How much use are you getting out of chain lightning? (just curious, I've always wanted to play with it). Control teleport is in several books too (I doubt you need a book of control, if you've ...

Sif channeling with no invo is actually better than sublimation with no necromancy. But anyway, it's not like a spriggan has problems running away or meleeing. Not to completely distract the topic, but I thought that sublimation didn't depend (much) on spell power? And with all that spellcasting sk...

I would add sublimation of blood to the "to learn" list. You don't have any invocations, so Sif Muna channeling is pretty useless, other than giving you enough MP to blink away and run. Which can be useful if you've spent yourself shattering and everything on the level isn't dead yet. Othe...

First: Congrats! The first rune feels awesome, and generally leads you rushing to grab the next two and race down into Zot to claim your prize. (heh, that's how I lost my first rune-bearing character) You can do some serious damage with your current summons. Take a little time to increase your survi...

Lugonu's corrupt level should apparently not be used on small levels. You will find yourself surrounded wall to wall by abyss creatures (hopefully all neutral). Never been more thankful for an amulet of warding.

Yeah, I noticed the EV penalty seemed larger than expected (took me from 20-21 EV to 11 EV). Decision was made for me by a deformed body mutation. I was ensorcelling bees and didn't notice how many miscasts I made. Oops.

Had some early luck with this AK. Two acquirements netted me a very decent quickblade (should at least take me through dungeon and lair branches) and randart buckler (woohoo, Dam+2!). I cleared a bailey and picked up ice dragon armour as my prize (and a book of death and a randart shield I couldn't ...

A ring or wand of invisibility can really make Shoals 5 a lot easier. Your anti-magic axe will also reduce the effectiveness of ilsuiw and aquamancers. A brother-in-arms inside the rune vault can clear it pretty quickly, too. Getting through the rest of shoals without levitation is troublesome, but ...

First: I would stop training stealth immediately. Probably stabbing too. Your halo under TSO is going to attract a lot of attention, and stabs will rarely be useful, except when your angel distracts things, but it's probably not worth increasing the skill for those small bonuses. Your mileage may va...

Well, this definitely counts as a YASD. Was healing after some adventures in Dis. Was most of the way healed (less than 10% off) when Trog called another crew. Some hill giants, stone giants and bears. I had dealt with worse, but felt lazy (argh, always the death of me) and instead of just beating t...

Yeah, I guess it was a silly question. Clearly, I'm committed to try a little bit of danger ;). So far I've seen three levels of Pan, killed two random pan lords, but netted no runes. First one just moved into melee range and got his tail kicked in (felt bad wasting a haste charge on that one, but y...

Hi all. Trying to decide whether to make the ascension run with 4 runes (my first!) or dip my toe into more extended endgame (Pan, maybe Dis or Gehenna if that goes well). I know its still 8.1, but I'm finally getting back to some characters I set down and didn't finish over the summer. I'm planning...

Sorry, I've only played as far back as v7, so I'm wary to give overly specific advice. Right off the bat though, I'd pick up swiftness and repel missiles. Those two are just too useful to leave on the sidelines. Eventually, you'll upgrade your repel missiles to deflect missiles once your skills impr...

A better plan is to actually worship Xom. His RNGness won't really let you "lock in" your mutation, but he is slightly biased towards positive mutations (in the long run) which can clean up most of the mutations you get from quaffing, and add a couple nice ones while he's at it. horn/hoof/...

Argh. Summon swarmed by a poison resistant deep elf demonologist. KoboldLord was right, Shoals5 and Swamp5 were cake. Picked up a couple levels and 40% torment resistant along the way. Cleared everything outside the vault on Elf5. Pulled a couple elves at a time out of there with poison cloud. Intox...

Hah! Funny you mentioned that. I escaped, but not without getting paralyzed. Blink to the edge of the room on the left. Move diagonally underneath it to keep the lich out of LOS. Uncurse weapon. Equip staff of demonology. Abjure (fail). Take a couple hits from Executioner. Quaff agility to reduce da...

Apologies. Bumping for advice on escaping lich and his executioner.

Usually, it's axes behind glass outside the bailey... but this'll work: DonaldTrapped.jpg (this showed up in orc, so the Donald-text was especially appropriate) Oh, and there was this one. And yes, a pack of scythe-wielding goblins IS dangerous enough for a low level char (took me out quickly enough...

Durn. Fun character. Already had shoals and swamp runes, and breached Vault_8. I think I could have pulled off at least the three rune win if I had been a little more careful with the vestibule of hell (or just avoided it entirely). Forgot to switch from faith back to warding. Never should have gott...

Thx. Both decent suggestions. Between the two, the poison route makes a lot of sense, especially regarding crowd control. And the upgrade route through the rest of air magic is nice option to have if the right spellbooks spawn. Or, like you mentioned I could do both and add some zombie meatshields t...

Short version: Mid-game stabber (Nightstalker 2 + Thin-Skeletal 3) trying to pick a secondary damage option: long-blade melee, or summoning (found grand grimoire), or necromancy (book of unlife), or fire/earth/poison conjuration (young poisoner's, conjurations[fire+earth], power). Long version: Star...

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