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that would be very annoying, having to manually deactivate every buff after fighting, to avoid mp drain

1) the charms wouldn't be permanent; they would deplete maximum mp and possibly have other effects 2) spells with permanent effects clash with crawl's current design, as it's possible to remove heavy armour, put on +int and wizardry, and quaff brilliance (though this is less bad since it's actual re...

tazoz wrote:If a person has the patience to refresh the spells constantly he deserves the extra survivability the spells gives

making tedious play optimal is bad design
that is, nobody deserves extra survivability for recasting constantly

On merging chunks, distinguishing them is important for simulacrum, but other than that I agree it would be nice.

I hope you also know autoinscriptions exist and you're just requesting that the default configuration include one to put !D on all OBJ_STAVES and some other special cases (brands, enchantment).

edit: I hope you also know that this will probably confuse a bunch of newbies.

(hp gain from fighting is already lower for felids)

could you please stop comparing crawl ogres to other ogres? I personally want them mostly unchanged (just a bit of tweaking with fighting hp scaling but that applies to more than ogres, and maybe a bit more racial hp if they don't have enough after that) because I like them as a good challenge race,...

written befor galehar: 1) venom magi are fine hybrids as-is, but please don't push them into that. please don't give them "throw poison", either; it's needless symmetry (and there's too much as-is). 2) yes, the books are what differentiate elementalists (is this really a problem? spell sel...

elementalists are more different from each other than the melee classes

That's irrelevant to Yred's position as a starting god, though.

Yred gifts are better now. As for arguing for keeping Yred as a starting god, I'd say it both does the ally playstyle quite well (both simpler and more synergistic (drain life) early on than a reanimating necromancer, with more powerful allies too (bone dragons); my only worry here is that it overla...

1) veh isn't a pure magic god and tgw doesn't want melee bonuses. tgw wants to prove a point. 2) the same tedium applies to finishing things off with conjurations 3) well thinking of veh that way is your problem 4) stop basing everything on your concept of vehumet's flavour; base it on gameplay reas...

1) winrate isn't a good metric of anything, sorry to say. Centaurs actually have one of the highest winrates, too (right under felids and deep dwarves).
2) you're probably remembering that centaurs are the least played race (this is true online, ignoring removed races and the new felids)

who needs a summoning spell when you have Breathe Bees

I guess I meant undetectable purely by placement (like with doors in dead ends or in fancy vaults) but leading to something nifty.

written before dpeg:

I think the biggest challenge, aside from ensuring sensible branches, is generating a good branch ending, unless this sort of thing doesn't end up as a real branch, in which case it's no worry.

written after dpeg:

I agree with dpeg.

written before danr: Pardon me continuing the mapping tangent, but as I see it, since mapping is a limited resource and the few secret doors aren't obvious or available through spoilers (bad design in my opinion, but that's a different topic) wouldn't be knowable through magic mapping without using ...

Distortion is completely inappropriate for starting gear. Invisibility is pretty inappropriate too, and shoehorns the class into stabbing (a kobold or some such starting with evokable invisibility would be crazy). Oh and Invis gear would fit best with assassins anyway (second-best with artificers). ...

I hear it made you lose your whole inventory. a great spell.

I'm with minmay.

The point to the first nitpick was that while staves apt is important, evocations apt is more important, and you seem to be focusing only on staves. Want to make ogres good at using magical staves? Maybe you should improve their -2 evocations aptitude. This goes less so for vampires with their -1 ev...

1) only fighters and gladiators get falchions now 2) TSO itself offers very little in the early game (and while a paladin may have thematic strength, it didn't really offer enough to distinguish itself), and basing a religious class primarily around something aside from the religion (falchion) is ba...

they're gone
As I see it, there are too many starting gods and Makhleb wasn't defining enough to stay.
They cut TSO starts, too, but I doubt as many people will be upset about that.
(I agree on both accounts)

you can rearrange the letters with =i, if that helps at all

level 2 attack spell: call imp
note that slow is level 2, too, now (so it's more useful)

I would like to know what the reason is for the generally low aptitudes overall for staves. These are my guesses: - Staves are seen as being more powerful than other weapon types due to the potential damage of elemental staves, so they are "nerfed" to offset that. Evocations helps much mo...

You know how the demonspawn mutation system works, right? For example, you always get a body slot facet (or multiple in the case of monstrous) and it (/they) doesn't (/don't) take the place of anything else. You always get a scalesey facet (includes thin skeletal structure and distortion field) and ...

MarvintheParanoidAndroid wrote:Breath weapons were removed.

was anyone even resisting? pretty sure I, at least, was only pointing out how some of the reasons provided for staves for monks were invalid (this helps flesh ideas out so they don't end up lopsided and ugly), rather than resisting the idea itself (though I'd still prefer actual staves/UC synergy)

minmay wrote:If some mutations are way better than others then that may be a problem

it can happen when you travel into sight of monsters too

early grinder is brilliant, and really, I don't think it's all that nasty

also, doesn't grinder have DEPTH: 3-6, !Lair, !Slime
(compare with sigmund, DEPTH: 2-7)

(I knew that, but of course, I don't memorize all evasion penalties and was too lazy to look it up -- looks like CPM EVP is 8 though)

(On playstyle, you're still just bashing things; shields or lack thereof don't change this. Do you, as a player, dramatically change how you play if you have a shield? I don't just mean taking and dealing less damage, either. I'm mostly nitpicking about your poor word choice here, but as I have said...

marvinpa, stop being right There. War axe is one handed. ;) marvinpa, stop being wrong about some things and right about others; it's very confusing mrmistermonkey, stop missing details thedark, I'm pretty sure str stops helping with armour penalties after a while I think it's 27 for GDA and someth...

danr, you seem to think I'm not really opposed to letting monks start with staves really, and I have said this before, I just think it's not adding anything, but you may have confused my refutations with me hating your idea As for people being interested in it, I don't trust this as a measure of how...

(those things are already happening, starting with eldritch tentacles (malign gateway)
there are plans for a lot more, too, but I'm not sure how many are implemented)

While light vs. heavy armour differ in that it's easier to cast in the former, my principle is that, generally, melee classes shouldn't concern themselves with making it convenient for players to pick up spellcasting, and spellcasting classes shouldn't concern themselves with making it convenient fo...

not sure how a staves start gives them anything special looking at general uniqueness alone, it would blur their definition a lot, and it was never particularly strong (just another punchy class but with unarmed combat instead of a weapon and slightly more dodging/stealth bias than a gladiator but l...

(but the OP even says that the obsidian axe is 14 damage and -2 acc, and the learndb even says that broad axes are the same)

marvinpa, stop being right

everyone else, stop trusting the wiki

just like Fi/Gl are the poor cousins of Cr/Re/CK/Be, right? how exactly do staves work with unarmed combat, anyway? or is your idea just to make it a choice for monks, like how all the other backgrounds get their pick of one of a bunch of samey weapons? If this is about making some nice weapon/UC sy...

by keeping Vaults levels large and open (with ranged threats) and Dungeon small and compact (with melee threats) would preserve this and help differentiate these branches

note, too, that it's hard to run away when everything is clogged up with ettins and titanic slime creatures

not really
no

I actually think Vaults levels should start small and get bigger with more ranged threats in open spaces. Cutting it down a few levels might help if it's still dull, too. Contrast with Dungeon levels, which should get smaller with more melee threats in tight spaces. If Hive was a one-level branch, p...

(you don't really need to train evocations to use a ring of levitation
rings of teleportation are quite nice, though
and if you're a stabber, particularly kobold (for the carnivore/gourmand/saprovore), rings of invisibility should be splendid, but you don't really need good success rates for them)

deep dwarves are just fine as chaos knights of Makhleb; it's mostly a matter of personal preference

I actually don't really notice monsters becoming harder in Snake until the ending vault (it could stand to be more dramatic and shortening to 3 levels would help sharpen this), and in Orc only barely so (usually difficulty is spiky, given everything under knights pretty much being popcorn, knights b...

On zchris' answer, I'm pretty sure that was the point.

except in nethack, isn't its permanent? (it is not permanent with this god) my biggest concerns are: a) the spoilery aspect of what mutations from what corpses b) the code counterpart, cleanly associating mutations with monsters without tons of special cases or putting one in each of their definitio...

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