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I've been swimming through the wiki for a while, but one thing I can't seem to figure out is the cost, in experience, of raising a skill. Assuming an aptitude of 0, what is the formula to determine the xp required to raise a skill? const int exp[28] = { 0, 50, 150, 300, 500, 750, // 0-5 1050, 1400,...

How do my skills look? Too much throwing, I'd turn it off and never turn it back on. I would prioritize both UC and Fighting over Dodging. Under any circumstances should I train weapons? None, go UC all the way. Should I train shields? Should I use a normal shield if it's all I can find? Yes and ye...

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BlackSheep wrote:I tend to test things out or source dive before making basic statements of fact like that.

I profusely apologize.

duvessa wrote:Then you have a bad memory.

I blame it on being old as fuck.

If you have xp to spare its definitely worth investing some EVO for the new evokers. I usually aim for somewhere around 13 skill if I'm going to be using them frequently. They are still useful at lower skill levels but you don't get as many minions summoned per use.

QED, more like QQ

Magipi wrote:Isn't it supposed to put you somewhere safe?

No, I think the only place that's off limits for the respawn is the immediate area around where you died.

BlackSheep wrote:Not as yet, no.

Are you sure? I could've sworn I got rid of drain with a royal jelly.

So this was a pretty fun game…

FeEE of Nemelex
act 1 - draw from an escape deck, its flight card, aka bat form, aka overload then dead card
act 2 - resurrect in view of 8 enemies, repeat act 1
act 3 - suicide in a fit of despair

stickyfingers wrote:You can be banished by Damnation even with monsters in sight.

Yeah, I learned this one the hard way.

Oh hey, another set of forum rules you don't understand.

Butterflies.

If only there was a stickied thread explicitly spelling out the rules of discussion in said forum to avoid these kinds of misinterpretations

Also it was apparently MarvinPA who locked the thread, which makes your "fit of rage" comment even less unlikely.

Thanks, is claws 1 worth training a bit of UC for? It may mutate further into claws 2 or 3, it may not. As it stands now I have nothing else to put in that hand (besides a shield that greatly hinders spellcasting) and a pair of +0 gloves Unless you're planning on going full UC (i.e. no mainland wea...

Galehar hated the idea of me blind drawing from a deck of escape and not getting screwed so much he locked the thread in a rage. The overarching point was that it simplifies the codebase to leave it as is, which is a laudable ongoing trend. As much as I hate to defend Galehar, you're being ridiculo...

Since that's the second D in GDD, it follows that we should spam duplicate topics up in there.
QED

Yeah, I'd do Vaults next. Would probably do all except the last level then finish dungeon.

cosmomancer wrote:caster

Hope you like semantic debate.

I would probably start training to get Haste castable, and thinking about a TSO switch.

I read-id scrolls after every cleared floor or thereabouts, I quaff-id potions if I have a stack of 2 or more.

YASD. I learned a hard lesson today. I was killed by a vault warden, but I could have used Zin's Sanctuary to get out of trouble. I realized this immediately after I died. The lesson being, patience is a virtue. I am devastated by losing my furthest progress ever in this game :(. http://crawl.akras...

Or just do a quick reply saying "advice x is outdated, y is correct now." This is less helpful in practice when dealing with these kinds of megathreads. If you see advice on page 10 of a 30 page thread, do you really want to have to comb through 20 more pages to see if it is still up to d...

Grimm wrote:Which isn't stickied. Would people like it to be?

NB: I was joking, since we've already got a catch-all topic stickied.

Yeah, I'm surprised one of these isn't already stickied at the top of the page.

Tavern's standards have really gone down if a strategy only has be able to get you to lair and orc for someone to aggressively defend it. I thought you had to get to at least vaults:2 to write a guide here. Well, pre-Lair is harder than Zot:5 , so if you can get to lair and orc you've pretty much w...

Probably the safest way to kill the royal jelly is to rain yourself a nice little corridor surrounded by water, invite the jelly to your corridor, and drown him in more rain. That would work except for his drowning resistance: http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=the+royal+jelly He can definite...

oh, it is not that good then. It is better than what it was. Flaming and freezing are better than the average outcome of that list for most characters, and you used to be able to guarantee these brands if you had the spells (usually you had the spells). 20, SPWPN_VENOM, 15, SPWPN_DRAINING, 15, SPWP...

e: never mind, I clearly don't understand the point being made, but don't feel like arguing about it

Zot:5 isn't harder than a lot of other places in the game

Which places are harder?

Tiktacy wrote:
Are you high?

Tiktacy's sig wrote:being polite is always the optimal choice.

cerebovssquire wrote:Not to mention that judging weapons by how well they perform in Zot when you can buy them well before Zot makes no sense.

My strategy makes no sense.

wheals wrote:I have absolutely no idea what you mean by "spellbooks that can backlash"?

I think he's referring to stuff that was removed like 3 versions ago.

You wouldn't see any of these things if you were using instant-autoexplore, as a lot of people do. And you won't think anything of the clues if you're not constantly looking for metroidvania style hints everywhere (even though there are almost none). Counterpoint: I found all of these, I use instan...

shrooming should give the ability to fly

Offline doesn't count.

The specific school is more important than spell casting for success percentage, but given that you're at 16 charms/0 spell casting, you're best bang for the buck is probably get spell casting to around 5 and then put more into charms if you need to.

Code:: MP 1

I started a DK and it only starts with 1MP (So not enough to animate remains at level 1), is this some kind of funkiness related to the hp/mp damage sharing?

If you're use manual training, disable everything until axes reach 26, then disable it and don't train anymore.

I still don't get why people issue the "if you're using manual training" caveat.

Attack him with a weapon.

Bring back Jester

Zigs just require 3 runes now, not cash.

Artifacts are weird like that. Stealth+ and MR+ give inconsistent effects as well. I'd like to see those standardized. I'd always thought MR+ on an artifact ring was the same as a ring of MR (since the artifact ring's base type is MR), but that MR+ on armor was different, is that true? This is kind...

brendan wrote:Done.

Restore abilities now does triple duty.

Just got rid of some red drain with this.
5/5, would quaff again.

BlackSheep wrote:For reference: hunger rate

Interesting, I always assumed hunger+ on an artifact was the same as having a hunger ring, but apparently not.

Yeah, I tried being a wiki editor for a while but it was an exercise in frustration and futility.

But I just pointed out the badwiki entry for lol's, didn't mean for it to become personal and heated.

I use them frequently and would probably use them more frequently if they removed drain.

Maybe when you're flying over deep water you could get a notification when the buff is about to expire, and that will kill you if you don't get out of deep water in a few turns.

edit: I'd just like to commend everyone for the quality posting and excellent decision-making displayed in this thread

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