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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11-a0-3198-g6e5327a (tiles) character file. Punky the Eclecticist (Spriggan Wizard) Turns: 52027, Time: 03:50:07 HP 61/61 AC 6 Str 7 XL: 15 Next: 0% MP 41/41 EV 28 Int 29 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 1397 SH 0 Dex 14 Spells: 13 memorised, 7 levels left Res.Fire : x ...

I'm coming back around to Wizards again. I like the extra 3 points of Int. Also, if you really use all your starting spells, they can take you surprisingly far. In my current game I only found the temple on D7, found no other good conjurations until I got my first gift from Vehumet on Lair:7, and re...

Is it significant to be at a full skill level or are all skill calculations now based on decimal values? E.g. if I have Charms skill at 10.9, is it any more benefit significant to get it to 11.0 than it was to go from 10.8 to 10.9? I know for some skills at least it doesn't matter, but are all skill...

After trying a number of Spriggan blaster builds out over the last while, I think I'm liking Wizards. They start with the most Int and also all L3 or lower spells, both of which are good for food-sensitive Spriggans. Although this background is weakest in terms of blasting spells among other alterna...

Are the Kraken tentacle tiles procedurally generated? I assume they are in a bitmap somewhere in the source files and you could just work from those.

What I'd like to know, is what's the average IQ of the Crawl community.

I definitely think autotravel / autoexplore could be smarter. I believe the game calculates "tension" which is some measure of the level of danger. A rat on the other side of some lava should not break auto-explore. And once you are XL10, a rat standing right next to you should also just b...

We are all bad players. Or maybe we are all average players of an above-averagely-difficult game. I've won once, and died on the orb run once. I did get a 15-runer a little while ago but that was by save-scumming. I've been playing on and off since I can't remember when, it was when the original DC ...

Why not put in Homer Simpson's idea of Dogs that shoot bees out of their mouths?

Or from Austin Powers' Dr. Evil, sharks with fricken laser beams.

At the very least, there's some interesting fodder for potential new Translocations spells here. This could make Warpers as interesting as I've always thought they should be but never found them to be.

I'm sure the Tavern regulars are only a small slice of the total player community. Wasn't there a survey done recently? Other things to check: - downloads - tournament participants - users on IRC The main thing I'd like to know is # of downloads over the past year. Though I'm not sure what that woul...

Okay, Ctrl-F for . will list all items (or piles) on the level. But it could be better, such as if that list were annotated. Or what if the prompt simply said "You cannot reach some items: a ring mail". Searching for those unreachable items currently is a tedious activity that players will...

One minor annoyance in DCSS is when you autoexplore and are done exploring but there are some items out of reach somewhere. You get this message "Can't reach some items" but you have no idea where they are. In Tiles you can scan over the map but in my current game I can't find what items i...

BlackSheep wrote:Seriously? You need to ask?

I don't spend too much time in CYC.

I think this time I'll manage to keep my wits about me and not get killed... Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.3-5-gf0cc9df character file. Goober the Spry (Spriggan Fire Elementalist) Turns: 48223, Time: 03:35:11 HP 63/63 AC 6 Str 6 XL: 15 Next: 78% MP 2/48 EV 35 Int 18 God: Vehumet [******] Go...

This is a bit off-topic...

Vampiric can be good if you have a way of stabbing, then suddenly a vampiric dagger or maybe even short sword can net you a lot more HP gain.

I can see them have different uses - confusion near water / lava / damaging clouds, etc., but basically enslavement is gonna be the bomb.

We have a number of wands that can delay / incapacitate monsters: - Confusion - Slow - Paralysis - Enslavement I may be overlooking some. The question is, which is most worth carrying, generally? Enslavement seems the most useful since it doesn't just stop an enemy, but turns it to your side. You ca...

I think it would probably be more limited than that. Similar to spell power, it would just tell you how much of that weapons max potential damage per turn you can currently exploit. It would probably have to exclude brand damage for simplicity sake.

Who's the dynamic duo?

If all you want to do is know when you've reached the maximum spell power for a spell, request that the color of the hashes change once the spell is maxed out. This would be a good change and would totally satisfy my #1 above. It's not that I really care that much to have my throw flame at max powe...

Not necessarily. The word "fantasy" itself already suggests ...

Okay, now I'm boring myself. Never mind.

Re: the point that spell power does something different for every spell: this points to another issues with the current system. Magic Dart gets 5 "pips" that can be filled. Fireball gets 10 or something like that. This makes it look like fireball's greater power stems from the fact that it...

Showing a number has been suggested, but no one's insisting on that. Tiber's analogy to spell hunger is a good one. It is very useful to know when further investment in a skill will do _nothing_ for you. I realize it may be virtually impossible to get max power on firestorm. However, most spells in ...

Oh, that would have been good to know for my last Minotaur, when I put like 20 levels into UC, thinking it might help. However, I only did that once I had other skills pretty far along.

I agree, it is a very mundane fantasy. That's what makes it so bizarre as a fantasy.

Like I said, it's a very minor bug. I think there should either be no message, or a human-readable message saying "Invalid command" or something like that.

You shouldn't be so sure about what I do and don't understand. One think evilmike said is that "The spell power bar could be better"... so let's talk about that instead of who's a moron and who's bitching about things they can't or shouldn't understand or care about. I don't really need a ...

The same argument applies to the current system anyway - someone could just as easily complain that their #####... fire storm is weak.

The fact that I have no idea how many #s would be 85% max power illustrates my point.

Are they popular i.e. do they get a lot of play?

On a related note, why does Vehumet give you summoning books after giving conjurations? I'd sooner just have guaranteed access to every conjuration spell. Sif Muna is for having access to a "diversified portfolio".

Well, this is kind of what I was seeing. But my guess is, even with just three or four summoning spells, that's probably all you need. It just seems so boring, because you don't even do anything after you cast your summons. Is there something about it that I'm missing that makes a summoner more fun ...

I want a Rod of Apportation.

From the veto list, I think it actually could be fun to have a unique rod with Sticks to Snakes that turns back into rod form after it's done being a snake for a while. Way back when I played AD&D (like, 20 years ago), my character (a half-orc cleric) had a staff that did exactly that. It would...

Yeah man, that's what I'm talking about!

Seriously though, has anyone for kicks, or just because it's their main computer, played DCSS on a huge screen?

The most logical thing in terms of internal consistency would be for it to not be possible to forget a spell using an artefact book. If artefacts can't be changed using magic or mundane means, then the average player should not be able to destroy them by ripping out a page. But this then creates an ...

I've never played summoners much because they seem to be such one-trick ponies. Need to kill something? Summon some allies. Need to escape / protect yourself? Summon some meat shields. In addition, I don't get the huge range of summoning spells available. How many do you really need? I see the need ...

But the in-game item description also says "This book is an ancient artefact".

Okay, I have this bizarre fantasy of playing DCSS on a massive screen. Has anyone done this? What's the biggest screen you've played DCSS on, and was it awesome? This also makes me think - there should be sound effects. I want to hear explosions! I mean, once you have a system that can handle the gr...

Yeah, I was able to destroy the book by forgetting the spell. With this particular spell it is a moot point because I plan to keep Apportation for the game's duration. It just seems odd to me that one can destroy an artefact in this manner, and I think it would be cool if, with spells that were in a...

The most important point in my last post were "within certain limits". It could be as limited as being allowed to allocate the last three stat points. So you wouldn't be able to minmax much, e.g. create a SpWz with 3/29/3 stats or something ridiculous like that. But maybe instead of 4/16/1...

What if as part of character creation, you could simply choose where to allocate your stats, within certain limits?

So on D:2 I come across (as an SpEE) that Trog vault with the spellbook. I carefully eXclude Trog's altar so I don't trigger the trap with auto-explore, and think, hm, maybe I'll find apportation. On D:3, what do I find but the Book of Burglary! Memorize apportation, train Tloc to skill 1, head back...

Note that if you want to write a patch that you want to be integrated into an official release of DCSS, current trunk is always the version to base it on. Basing a patch on a stable version only makes any sense if there is no chance the changes might be integrated into the official release. Well, i...

Yeah, I thought about trying to code a patch but it would be my first and is probably a pretty ambitious project, and both family and work responsibilities have been increasing for me. My sense of things around DCSS though is that it's a lot easier to get consensus on a change when you volunteer to ...

What? All of their priorities for str/int/dex are the same: "int" It is true that any caster background would like as much Int as possible. This is probably true even for some of the Warrior-Mages. However, that is not how warrior-mage classes are designed - some get more Int than others,...

I've been playing mostly Spriggan casters lately, and I wonder why so many caster backgrounds start with the same stats. For Spriggans, I believe most caster backgrounds start with 4 Str, 16 Int and 16 Dex. Wizards get 4 / 19 / 14. For Wizards this makes sense because they are supposed to be the mos...

I fat-fingered my keyboard and hit Ctrl-Alt-Q instead of Ctrl-Shift-Q, and I got the message: key_to_command(): command 'CMD_TARGET_CYCLE_MLIST' (1000:79) wrong for desired context Then I noticed that Ctrl-Alt-Anything would generate the same message. Well, I didn't test every key, but a bunch. Pres...

Just trying out SpEE. Sandblast is good against some stuff, not others - I just bumped into Terence wearing a scale mail and multiple "rocky blasts" didn't even scratch him.

So I guess the Con for SpVM is that it's starting attack spell is useless against a number of early monsters and it's next attack spell is L5 I suppose there's nothing wrong really with starting an FE or EE or Cj and then just branching out into poison once you get Poison Arrow. You're going to mult...

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