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jpeg wrote:I'm not even sure the shallow water fighting/movement malus is still in the game.

It is

Unarmed Combat is unique amongst the combat skills in that your skill level directly increases the damage you do. Every other combat skill just improves accuracy and attack speed, and you're expected to find or make your own increases in damage. Weapon skills affect damage too. Although not as much...

Perhaps I can reframe the issue as a more general one: What is the meaning of the "runed / glowing / dyed / embroidered" etc. descriptors, what is the purpose of them, and are they serving that purpose? I honestly don't know, that's why I wanted to see a discussion about it. After a quick...

how about giving them some transmutation aptitude so they can be competent stalkers? I think maybe Kobolds should be the stalker/transmuter out of the two and halflings the enchanter/crusader (don't know how well shapeshifting fits the halfling theme). What if Kobolds went from -1 Transmutation to ...

We don't need to remove races to add new ones. I think halflings have great potential and we should try to make them better (more different, not more powerful), not removing them.

Twilight wrote:
minmay wrote:Also, two or three levels of fire/cold vulnerability is actually the same as one level, so being rC--- is no worse than rC-.

Is that actually true? If so, that seems like an oversight that should be corrected.

I just checked the source. It's true.

That's another thing that's kinda broken, heavy armor. The penalties make it just not very useful. This comment is just stupid. First, it is completely wrong, but I won't go into the details, at it is off-topic. If you want to talk about armour penalties, do so in the game design forum. But try to ...

Yes, the chances to resist are independent. Amulet give 9/10 chances to resist, the mutation gives 2/3. So having the 2 gives you 29/30 to resist (96.6%).

There has been a lot of crashes and corrupted save files recently with the tiles version in trunk. The issue has just been fixed. If you want to repair your save, download the latest version (0.8.0-a0-4271-g90aec3c) and set the tile_force_regenerate_levels option. Once you've loaded the corrupted le...

I personally feel that str should play more of a role in reducing penalties for wearing heavier armors/shields. It seems as it currently stands hybrids just focus on int. Skill should only be able to reduce penalties to a point, without a minimum str requirement certain armors/shields just shouldn'...

I mean, if you want to be able to load windows save files under linux, compile crawl under linux with BUILD_LUA=y. This options force the makefile to use the contrib lua instead of the system one. The contrib lua has a special patch that makes it incompatible with standard one (hence the windows/lin...

cool. I will also try it on the startup menu screen.

Melded equipment keeping its ponderous effect (and stat boosts) is a nerf and a buff at the same time. I'm quite looking forward to having another go at Chei-worshipping Transmuters in 0.8! The stat boosts were my favourite thing. Which reminds me - does the upcoming change include keeping Ponderou...

To ensure good compatibility with windows, compile crawl with BUILD_LUA=y

Twilight wrote:I suppose I'm a strange hybrid with mostly keyboard controls and tiles display (I use the numpad, if anyone cares...).

I don't think you are a strange hybrid. I play tiles for the same reasons, and I use the keyboard and mouse the same way you do. I guess it's quite common.

There's a folder marked "morgue" in the game folder. There should be a text version of each character's memorial inside of that folder. Strange... I looked everywhere but there is no Morgue folder. I'm playing with trunk, if that helps with anything. Thanks anyway. If you have installed w...

Maybe the Hells are overpowered. I think it would be good if the devs would cook up more ways for the extended endgame to be playable. Although I don't get there often, my perception is that there are some real "no-brainers" when it comes to doing the extended endgame. So e.g. TSO and nec...

minmay wrote:
galehar wrote:In 0.8, they train at the normal rate, but XP cost is doubled.

Ooh, that needs to be clarified better. In my 0.8 games I've been training opposite schools just like in 0.7, with no clue it was using all that experience...

Well, there is the aptitude penalty shown in the skill screen.

What version are you playing in this game? In 0.7, opposite schools train much more slowly, but doesn't cost more XP. In 0.8, they train at the normal rate, but XP cost is doubled. It might be useful to get a few levels in the other school, but not too much, or it's going to be expensive (or painful...

You mostly answered your own questions. When you don't have enough XP in the pool to train a skill, it will just stay there. In 0.7, there was a chance that a magic school skill wouldn't train when you already know many of them. I think it included evo/invo. This obscure mechanism has been removed i...

Poison Arrow was nerfed to be 60% irresistible instead of 30%. Isn't it the other way around? Tukima's Dance was nerfed to only be useful with large, heavy weapons. And also a big emphasize was put on the spell power (at least, that's what the code comments says). So it's now quite powerful for ded...

I think we just stopped generating it. The code hasn't been cleaned off of it!

We would like to use the same logo across all title screens. By logo I mean a title ("Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup") in a cool font. It would be nice if the logo could contain the cauldron icon or some variation of it. It needs to be neutral enough to fit with title images of different style w...

I like the idea of Beogh blessing followers with random resistances. He shouldn't bless their equipment though. Because then, you're either stucked with one resistance per follower, or Beogh starts making randarts and it's getting crazy. The resistance is just a blessing (it vanishes when the orc di...

Disintegration works on rock walls but not stone walls. Translucent rock and stone walls look the same in Tiles, and must be examined to differentiate between them. I think they're different colors in console. Interesting. Seems almost like a bug for Tiles version. Should this be reported or is it ...

steel is 10 times more resilient
flame/forst 2 times less resilient
reaping 4 times less resilient

Enchanted projectiles get an extra shot at avoiding destruction: plus / (3 + plus) chance of survival.

It even sounds like a bug that has already been reported and fixed.

Nice! Tell us how you die horribly on D:2 then

danr wrote:
lucy_ferre wrote:0.8: read a book, select the spell, and 'F'orget it.

And that destroys the book?

Yes. But you get a warning message about it. This also angers Sif, so don't do that to save piety if you worship her!

how about giving them some transmutation aptitude so they can be competent stalkers?

There is certainly room for improvment. The expiring levitation warning is actually annoying when you're just not over deep water. How about a more prompt when fly/levitate or swimming/flying form expires only over deep water or lava? This can screw you up in swamp when you're constantly going in an...

danr wrote:Fortunately I found selective amnesia and I have a stash of about 15 spellbooks by now, so I have a lot of flexibility.

Aren't you playing trunk now? Because selective amnesia has been removed.

There's a new (undocumented) feature in trunk to help with Nemelex's sacrifices. In the ^! screen, you can select the item types you wish to sacrifice.

I understand the need for the Human species as all the other species are measured against them in aptitudes, xp, and stats. But I feel it would be nice if they could have a perk that would make them a little more appealing to play, while not changing their racial properties. For example: - 30% off ...

I just had to reboot in windows to load a save file someone uploaded on Mantis. I had a lua error when I tried to load it under Linux. So there are compatibility issues.

The only time I did it (HERe with TSO). I had a hard time too. I've read people saying summon and back away, but you can't. You get stormed near the stairs and there is nowhere to hide. Teleporting might be a good idea. Next time, I'll go there with necromutation!

minmay wrote:Alistair's is great with clarity, but somewhat redundant if you already have Mephitic Cloud.

Appart from the obvious unresistible and LOS range advantages of Alistair's, what I also like about it is that it is much less noisy then mephitic.

I really don't get how to milk Ash for ridiculous skill training like everyone seems to be doing :( As marvinPA said, this might be because of a nasty bug I fixed yesterday. It's most spectacular effect was when you cancelled a reskill after selecting the source skill which made skill training much...

I've gotta say, I don't know if the game needs more races. There are already more possible combinations than I will ever be able to play. And I worry that it takes dev time away from other important stuff like balancing what's already there and improving the interface etc. That said, the devs don't...

I, for one, would love to play a duel-wielding (Blessed katana and eudemon blade), Ashenzari/TSO worshiper! Maybe a species that can wear 10 rings. I see nothing unbalanced about that! ;) http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=octopus :( Wow, is that serious? :o It's a serious proposal by Eronarn...

Tukima's Dance works if you can get the orb distracted as the dancing weapons are fire immune as well. Dancing weapons are not immune to fire. Orbs of fire can damage them. Yeah, looks like they changed that since .5 (they only have fire++ and cold++ now). I wonder if that change was made specifica...

The tile looks pretty cool, I like it. Thanks! :) There's certainly a point for you to make more tiles if you like it. We always need more! Some zombie types could be added sure. There's a table on the wiki with all the zombie/skeleton/simulacrum/spectral variants. We could use more animal types. Th...

Thanks lucy_ferre and MrMisterMonkey for the interesting feedback. I think that tornado working through wall is a bug. I think the XP boost also contributes to the overpowered feel of reskilling. If you're training skills 40% faster, the 10% penalty when reskilling doesn't feel expensive. Let's get ...

Thanks for your post and your feedback on Ashenzari. if you want to elaborate, I've created a thread in the design section to talk about Ash.

Somehow, we haven't talked about the new god here :) There is yet another post about Ash being overpowered. Could you elaborate on why do you feel Ash is overpowered? Is it transfer knowledge (aka reskilling)? Or the scrying + tronado combo? Anything else? I think reskilling does need a little nerf....

I'm pretty sure it is in 0.8 - press m, *, and you'll see something like Fighting 0 (20%). In that case, it's because CDO hasn't updated to that version yet. It was an unintentional change and was fixed in trunk as soon as we realized it. I think danr is playing tiles. But not the latest version as...

It's probably related to the recent detached tabs change. I know that the monster tab is a bit unstable, I didn't know about the spell tab. If you can report on the exact conditions leading to the crash and even provide a savefile, that could help us fix it.

I endorse this change. I hate having to pick up all 20 scrolls of teleportation from my stash only to drop 18 because initially I wanted to pick up only two. Actually this doesn't change anything for stash, because you get the prompt when standing on a single pile of items. When there is several it...

Thanks. If I read that right, there's a 3 in (20+Invo skill) chance of summoning a hostile? So with invo 10, it's 3 in 30, or 10% chance of summoning hostile. Hmm. There's not much incentive to training invocations further then. I haven' checked the source, but he said 3 in (20+Invo*3). So for invo...

Thanks danr, this is a great idea and it really fits crawl's design philosophy. I like adjectives for accuracy. I really like different bar length for speed as suggested by MarvinPA. The real problem is going to be damage, because the formula is very complex. The bars should be of variable length, l...

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