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So I went for a complete power gnoll - an enchanter of Kiku . So yes, one of the best backgrounds, one of the best gods, but I think they might be a bit too easy - you could probably reduce them to +6 and still have them be kick ass. Backgrounds contributing a few +8s to one or two relevant skills w...

Are you a Gnoll with a shield perchance?

I searched for "arti && weapon", and just ignored the two-handers. "ego && weapon" also shouldn't be so cluttered that parsing the one handers is too much of a pain (lots of venom daggers generated apparently).

My current GnEn dump is not accessable right now (is underhound where I am meant to find my CLAN dump, it seems to not work like, most of the time, but CLAN itself is fine), but if you want Gn to be more of a use what you get from the floor kinda guy, more spell levels, or an amnesia ability, would ...

Yeah easier Jiyva access would be ... well, easier. I'm not very well informed about god abandonment, but I guess you can always do like, Fedhas-->Jiyva or something? When does Jiyva give rCorr?

Normally any guys I play who are incredibly lucky pre temple die stupidly in Lair, so I wanted to commemorate this lucky lucky bar steward who I actually managed to bring home: 0 | D:1 | vogonpoet the Minotaur Monk began the quest for the Orb. 841 | D:2 | Found a faded altar of an unknown god. 1038 ...

My VsBe used a quickblade of chaos, and it was awesome. Did you just beserk your enemy? Who cares, just hit it again. I mean, you should at least be aware of all the effects which can happen, but you are attacking so quickly and effectively, assuming your positioning isn't awful, they just don't mat...

The point is that you dont learn jack shit because you just power through things. So eventually you have to stop and learn how to play the game, or you can just use trog forever, but how good are new players at winning --Be and why should a new player ONLY play --Be? Who are all these Trog only beg...

Console player reports: the dark blue is indeed hard to read in Putty. I tried Tedronai's rc file adjustment,but it didn't seem to do anything, so I gave up. decided it wasn't too hard to read, and just lived with it.

The manual colour does seem a bit weird.

neverEnough wrote:... and was able even to clear all the floors...

Suprised no one said anything yet: don't do this. The rewards for clearing the Hells are

Playing for the Bay12 teams has definitely made me a better player - now I am just crap, instead of truly rubbish. Its fun, and the responsibility towards my clan brethen does indeed make me a bit more careful, a little less likely to do something really stupid. These days, I usually just try to get...

Ball lightning is an awesome, dangerous fun fun dangerous fun spell. A spell that you will never regret unleashing 3 times in a row at a tormenting monster without stopping to think about potential consequences, or you know, maybe reading some of those messages the game gives you, because you are to...

You are heading towards being a greater Na 10 percenter, so fair enough, well played, any general tips? My best Na was an En, but I will try anything.

Ha, in the end I picked up teleportitis from an OOF, got transported within blinking distance of the Orb, picked it up, and then had a horrible time, including loosing another life, trying to get off Zot 5 with my tele mut. Only once I had already been tele'd back into the lungs from in sight of the...

Well I could buy/collect a +4 ring of protection, a +5 ring of dex, or wear the +4 Str ring, I suppose. You are right though, I can probably afford to uncurse the MP ring now. I will probably learn Golubria at the expense of Tukima's dance, but I have a hard time classifying any of my hexes as usele...

In SF, I have AC:31 and EV:44, 171 max HP, normal movement speed with haste up, and I have blink for getting off the stairs. Those strike me as pretty good stairdancing defenses - unless the welcoming guards have all been replaced with a mix of wardens, Jorgrun clones and titans, I would expect V5 t...

Yeah, I had only just learnt Invis when I got killed by the javelineer - basically forgot I had it. I have learnt Silence, but almost not used it - non hexable monsters just get iron shotted and statue fist pounded. I guess I will at least remember to use it if and when I am confronted by an ancient...

My FeBe went straight to crypt, underestimated the speed of an ancient champion, and promptly lost a life :o. After that, I played a bit fast and loose, eventually kicking the bucket for the final time in depths. Invok: Berserk | 3 | 8 | 11 | 25 | 22 | 33 | 34 | || 136 Burn Spellbooks | | | 2 | 2 | ...

Ha, I hadn't even considered what will happen in Zot - I hate wandering around Depths without at least rF+. The last life this particular Felid lost was to a fire giant on U1 - just one keypress worth of positioning mistake allowed it to fireball me twice instead of once, and it was welcome to level...

Well my FeBe still has a life left, but I feel like its basically living on borrowed time. Only source of rF is a ring of fire, and having died four times already, I have only just scraped up 100 max HP. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1731-g1e0734d (console) character file. vogonpoet the A...

Thanks guys. Current Felid: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1717-gc7c1317 (console) character file. vogonpoet the Nimble (Felid Berserker) Turns: 17018, Time: 00:51:36 Health: 57/60 AC: 4 Str: 15 XL: 12 Next: 24% Magic: 13/13 EV: 32 Int: 9 God: Trog [******] Gold: 791 SH: 0 Dex: 18 Spells: ...

Hello folks - one more crawler who is terrible at Felids looking for a bit of advice. My current Fe plan : Play IE or En, go Dith or Ash, take starting book and add summons if possible, try not to die too often too early. This feels like it should on paper be safer than Cj of Veh, which with just 2 ...

Hey guys, I am really struggling with my best ever Dg, which I can only assume I screwed up horribly already, cos it feels fragile AND underpowered in Depths right now. I do not have access to most charm spells (not even regen or repel missiles, let alone haste), nor have I found much in way of tran...

Yeah, I kept the bow - it was actually quite good at killdudes as well as everything else. Breezed through Elf, breezed through Vaults 1 and 2, then died unbelievably stupidly after a flayed ghost joined a Crypt entrance ambush vault. There is no level of character awesomeness that I can't kill off ...

Thanks crate, didn't realise enhancers were that good. That would be a sweet bow indeed. Actually, my Int is only 34 when I am not wielding my current bow, so I would 'only' need a +17 Int weapon to rival my staff of earth, right? Hmmm, i think until I find iron shot or bolt of magna, I will nonethe...

For the record, I went ahead and memorised OoD, but died almost immediately after, so I am not able to contribute any useful OoD and archery results at this time. Yes, I suck.

/This is why I hate asking questions about dudes still in progress.

How much +int does a weapon need to rival an enhancer staff for improving spell power? Does the answer depend on base int? My complete guess would be more, much more than +10, but a) that guess could be completely wrong and b) the bow in question has other uses, such as firing arrows at distant mobs...

The first interesting weapon my current GrCj of Veh found was a longbow. So how does OOD work with archery? Can I fire off an Orb of Destruction, then shoot arrows at the same target, or will the arrows hit the orbs and screw up my plans? If the arrows would hit the orbs, I might reconsider Veh's OO...

Ok, killed off my Xom DsMo, killed off a few more Centaurs, Mummies and Nagas. Even killed off lots of KoBe. So now I have a HaAE. I had one of these get to XL 25, so I don't completely suck at them (thats actually my best AE ever), but I am struggling with this one - couple of issues I am not sure ...

Dead . I really hate the entrance to Depths sometimes - its a pretty big leap up in danger, and the entrance vault on D15 often isn't a good shape for stair dancing. But what I hate the most is starting a Crawl session with a promising character, entering Depths, then just forgetting how to play du...

Ha, thanks guys. I do wear the AC ring most of the time, honest, I just had to tab a pesky unseen horror a few monsters ago, and I hate not having MR+++ in Vaults. I am not sure if I have ever cast fprism - is it significantly better than IMB for AOE damage? Ice beasts though, they sound like they w...

Ok, hi guys, back from a wee holiday, still trying to tick the 'easy' species off my unwon list: Ce, DG, Fe, Fo, Gh, Ha, Ko, Mu, Na and Tr. So before I get back to killing Ce of Fedhas, lets have an almost promising DGCj: Pros: 1. Found two manuals of Ice magic in a cave, and then found Book of Fros...

I had a nasty welcome committee of draconians, dragons and moths of wrath I don't understand why did you not just evoke invis with your cloak? AFAIK, Tiamat is the only Drac with sInv, moths of wrath don't have it either, and only quicksilver, shadow, pearl and golden dragon. I am not a good player...

Holy crap - more unexpected OHKs: An Orb Guardian comes into view. Throwing (i - inventory. (,) - cycle): z - 120 large rocks (quivered) Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - Orb Guardian Aim: an Orb Guardian (hasn't noticed you) You throw a large rock. The large rock hits the Orb Guardian...

So I have cleared Elf, Crypt and V5, and am still struggling to upgrade my rings. A search for jewellery yields the following: http://i58.tinypic.com/33mpetw.jpg I will buy and switch to the rMut amulet for Zot probably. None of those artifact rings look better than +5 strength or vanilla MR. I don'...

...I might train throwing instead of evo, but eh... Don't forget your nets. ...I'd train throwing a bit higher... Nothing better than that +5 str ring? Good points - I am hurling rocks quite a bit, and damn they are good, so lets make them better. And yeah, I love nets. Nets are like, basically my ...

Crap. Getting into those terrible 'Definitely a promising character' areas of the game where I really don't want to screw up. The first caustic shrike pack felt dangerous, but then Trog whispered in my ear, and the next one was like, pfft, summon some bros, yay. Still, had a bit of a typo-misstep du...

WingedEspeon wrote:What does the conduct say you do when you hit 27 summoning?

You may only train one skill at a time, until that skill reaches level 27. You may then train your next skill, all the way to 27.

I imagine Fighting is a popular second skill, for those who make it that far.

:o Trog is not just gifting me javelins sometimes, but actual large rocks <3. So much love. edit: You climb downwards. A vampire mage, a phantasmal warrior, a curse skull and a skeleton come into view. The curse skull gives a chilling moan. Found a bread ration. There is a stone staircase leading up...

My lack of Og experience is definitely showing through - I was hoping actual defenses other than HP would be possible. So, for the future: More fighting, then fighting, then some fighting. OK. (I trained some Evo due to my invis ring, I love me some invis rings. Also, I spent all the Lair 8 XP on ar...

Gaaaa. Why don't I just kill off my centaur to nothing more than complete inattention. Was beginning to look almost promising too. Great. Ok, time for a rest, then a few OgBe. /I am just not really cut out for roguelikes. Edit: Ok, my ogre just found a GDA lying an the floor in Lair. Do I switch imm...

Yeah, I guess I will try those at some point. The whole point of this thread was to address the most glaring 'easy' species in my list of winners. So DD is down, and I have at least improved my best Ce record a tiny bit. Races I am yet to win, which are still available to play on Trunk: Ce, DG, Fe, ...

Ok, my Fedhas followers will try to make more shrooms. As for the Nagas, I really feel like giving up on Nagas. Everything I learnt about positioning and luring seems wrong with them - meet an orc, try to get out of LOS, ha ha, meet his friends, die. See an orc priest, and what? Spit, miss and die. ...

Ok, 3 dead NaTm, two of Fedhas, one of Okie, top level 5. Damn I hate Nagas. I am sure in the hands of Chei and a non-awful player, Nagas can become diesel, but not for me today. Back to CeGl of Fed.

Well I just ticked Dr off my looooong list - started as a FE, so of course, Veh just offered me ice spells, then I turned white, then I found Occu's armour in a random book... so ended up casting Glaciate again... feels like ages since I last cast Fire Storm. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a...

It can one shot kill tormentors too apparently - had some on my last Orb run.

<3 BoC

Fuuuuuuck. This is why I suck. I thought to myself, crap, I should blink, or drink some heal wounds. Then I thought, nah, he is almost dead, hit him again. Did I use haste, might or agility? Nope. Did I die in a protracted battle with blink scrolls in my inventory? Yep. Divno. Wiglaf barely misses y...

njvack wrote:... Oh! A wand of hasting in Lair! Very nice. Go win

Ha ha, if only it was that straightforward... So yeah, shroud, regen, spec, and portal projection sound like pretty solid spells to get online... if I find PP then I guess I can add blink to the list too, we shall see.

What they really need is paralysis.

Code:: Vanquished Creatures 5 orbs of fire 6 ancient liches 5 pandemonium lords Boris (Depths:4) Frederick (Crypt:3) Norris (Spider:2) 9 caustic shrikes

"Oh they are totally rare in a 3-rune game".

/love me some shrike meat

Still not dead. Found Book of Battle, so I thought, ah ha, Spectral Weapon is awesome, lets do that - its up to 76% success now, so yeaaargh. But now that I think about it, SW doesn't work for bows does it? So my Centaur is going to end up just spearing stuff to death. How would I build the char if...

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