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Teleport trap on entry stairs is a bit extreme but this could have just as well happened anywhere else in Zot:5 and still be tough. You should have hasted before grabbing the Orb but I assume there would still have been a very good chance of dying without a second chance.

*shrug* If you can bring a Gnoll to 15 runes, you can surely keep it alive a while longer for the full skills. To me it seems mostly like an exercise in patience. That being said, Wizard is the most popular background for.a good reason, the early Spellcasting boost goes a long way towards easing the...

Out of these two options, I like the first one much, much better. It is easy to understand and removes only gratuitious stair dancing, you can still try to use it in an emergency situation. It doesn't solve the artificial loading barrier effect but that is a minor flavor issue that can be addressed ...

Xv is your friend . Even more so when you see something you don't understand.

I don't want to sound too harsh... but that kind of fight or flight reflex will get all of your mummies killed if you can't reign it in. They are very, very unforgiving of player mistakes.

I like Portal Projectile. Cast outside Spectre range, move in LoS, deliver Javelins to the face until they cease to exist.

Also, all of the other options mentioned above. Zig is no place for one Trick ponies.

Found stasis in Slime, tried using it in Zot1 and died to Electric Golem because weapon with rElec was the only source of resistance. Choosing IDA over FDA was a strategic mistake, I could have either rElec or rF+ and was attacked by both kinds of monsters. Your mistake and/or bad luck was that you...

the +11 crystal plate armour of the Archfiend (worn) {+Blink Dam+5}
(Okawaru gifted it to you on level 17 of the Dungeon)

And this, kids, is why we worship Okawaru.

Found stasis in Slime, tried using it in Zot1 and died to Electric Golem because weapon with rElec was the only source of resistance. Choosing IDA over FDA was a strategic mistake, I could have either rElec or rF+ and was attacked by both kinds of monsters. Your mistake and/or bad luck was that you...

This one purely hypothetical... yet: Let's say I have play a SomethingSomething worhsipping Cheibriados, cleared Zot 5, got all the runes I want and feel ready to win. What is my incentive not to leave Chei before I grab the orb? I am aware that he slows monster spawn rate, but intuitively I'd still...

What about expanding Apportation, allowing it to Disarm monsters by targeting their tile? It would give the spell more sense in the earlygame (though its MP cost would need to be increased).

Also, sticky flame breath may be sufficient provided you find a Wand of Digging. Carve out the lower right corner of the vault, move in, Sticky Flame the plant, move behind the wall for cover. Repeat the last three steps until profit. Repeat the same process for the other plants as well.

Hunters also start with an attribute score distribution that is likely to be more beneficial in the long run. Not much of a difference of course, but for some it may tip the scales.

After you grab the rune from the Vaults, don't stick around and fight the rest of the enemies. Eventually a Tentacled Monstrosity will grab you and prevent you from stairdancing at the worst time. Seriously, do the monsters in that level EVER run out?? On a related note... Even if your MiFi is able...

Abyss is an awful thing that needs to be removed from Crawl with extreme prejudice. The Abyss just need to be made survivable by lower level, unlucky characters that get banished. Then it'd all be fine. 5 level Abyss is a very good step in the right direction. Abyss 1 could be a bit easier - but pe...

-2 Dex is easily bearable - but the weapon itself is likely to get outclassed by a future Trog gift anyway. I say this can be your Lair and maybe early Spider Nest weapon but past that, you want more raw damage.

Fog+Teleport sound sensible enough. But as step 3 I would have thought Summon Butterflies made more sense. Really not sure about this, though :/

i managed to yoink the remaining hell runes for my orb run, do i stick with zin or go back to tso? i haven't cleared zot2-5 yet and the only time i've won (only time i've ever been in zot really) was with a giant undead army as mfdk Of course it's too late now, but: Why switch to TSO over Zin? Does...

whale: With hindsight, was it worth it? Not really, I should have gone for armour acq. Most of the jewelry was randart, but there were no truly great pieces. I was somehow under impression that troves give randomized loot, if I knew that troves are thematic, I wouldn't have risked hoping for an arm...

What if each summon spell includes a chance for the summon to turn out hostile that scales with the number of summons you already have. This might be enough to selectively disable swimming in imp strategies.

Throw Flame has better range (starting the fight earlier enables you to end it earlier) and against packs of monsters the decreased accuracy becomes less of a factor. Miss opp 1, hit opp 2 who was next on your "to-kill" list anyway. I haven't tried out Vehumet with his new spell-gifting sy...

One-Eyed Jack wrote:You can kite monsters with swiftness and a <1 delay attack with any weapon, it's just more annoying

Not sure about this - but wouldn't the slight randomization in movement speed allow a few hits through in that case?

delarado wrote:How the f* are you supposed to deal with these things.

Plan A) Run away
Plan B) Blink to gain distance then Run Away
Plan C) Go Berserk and Run away
Plan D) Overwhelm with wand charges/BIA

Given the background of having played melee, I think doing a more straight forward caster is a better choice. Wz are great because of their flexibility and many options, which isn't something you want someone just getting into casters to deal with right away. Play a DEFE. Basically the magic equiva...

I like Siegurt's idea. Having a positive effect along with a negative one and no way to remove curses would make cursed items quite a bit more insteresting. I agree. We do have this philosophy already with the distortion brand and I think there is potential for other double-edged brands: - Rework a...

You can always zap the wand at a rat or the like to identify it, no need for ?identify. The wand is empty. I recently changed my wand id approach from rat-me to wall-me. But why? Hasted/invisible/polymorphed rats are still harmless and digging still gets identified if a wall is behind the rat. The ...

Seen the topic too late...but wouldn't the best bet have been trying to run towards the swamp drakes diagonally down, hoping that the enemies move in a way that leaves the Lernaean Hydra stuck behind another enemy? I don't know much about how walking paths are determined but using the weaker enemies...

I think, since Dowan gets a perpetual buff once Duvessa is dead, and Duvessa only gets that one berserk, she should instead get the ability to berserk once she's done from prior berserk exhaustion. ...because it's obviously good if all things work in the same way? Duvessa provides a more unique cha...

Blade wrote:actually, veh sucks for summoners

I will not argue that MuSu of Sif Muna is objectively stronger, more reliable, etc. - but his question was how to reduce tedium. And the hybrid route does the job.

Or start off as a Conjurer and gradually switch to Summoning as primary kill mechanism later on. There is a deity precisely for this career path.

I like doing the Hall of Blades on SpEn or the like. If you are careful enough the risk is basically zero, and the experience you gain is pretty good. I wouldn't recommend doing it on any character that doesn't do Invisibility stabbing with a decent duration on said spell, though, for reasons point...

Für Demigods and Lugonu it makes a lot of sense. If this is already being implemented, I would in addition suggest for Yred/Kiku/Makhleb vs. the Good Gods to be able to sabotage their altars. At least the good gods could benefit a lot from engaging in the battle against evil early on.

The wrath of the Crawl gods is one of the fine challenges Crawl has to offer - but IMO there are few situation where it makes sense to risk it. In order to get the angry deities a bit more involved, why not offer the player a chance to provoke them, i.e. by going to one of their altars and corruptin...

OK, that explains it...

Summon Butterflies would not have helped, though. The problem was that Frederick got two shots in. One destroyed my Flame Cloud buffer, the second one hit me.

After a few weeks of horrible play and no snatched runes, I finally got myself a character well into the middlegame again - the more painful it is that he died a stupid death that I failed to figure entirely yet... Started off as DEFE with pretty much what I consider the default options. Following V...

So... it's pretty much the D&D Bard. Not unfathomable but I really doubt that a new school is what Crawl needs right now. Most "classic" Bard spells already exist as either Charms or Hexes and the poetry school would find it hard to produce spells that don't fall into those categories.

There is a reason why I didn't push the third alternative in my list (the list was Spellcasting / piety / Invocations). In the future, I'd like to see Invocations being tracked separately (for each god using the skill; and the good gods would share). God switching should be made easier by reducing ...

The background really doesn't need more equipment or special abilities. There needs to be a general-purpose unarmed combat background, just as there is a general-purpose weapon combat background. I would rather do a straight buff than add any extra gimmicks. This goes for fighters, too. I, too, don...

The only way you are EVER going to get a set of three strong mutations from a potion is when you are desperately quaffing it in search of a healing potion and 1HP.

Also, removing the temple would rob my spellcasters and Death Knights of their early stash.

As a Necromancer you are already used to unwielding all the time because of Sublimination of Blood, so this should be routine for you

I like Feline Fighters as Pseudo-Artificiers. Their unarmed prowess gives them some survivability until you can reliably draw from decks. I haven't managed to bring one to Zot yet, though this is probably more my fault rather than the cats.

I notice you were "only" level 14 and saw 5 branches. Elves probably came a bit too early. You should at least clear Hive/Swamp/Pit (maybe even Vault 1-7( before it to let your undead army grow some more and maybe stack up on some resistances. Edit: For Yredelemnul, I recommend (roughly) t...

I think my favorite would be Makhleb. You already have Demonic Guardian and spamming an army from two sources is a totally viable lategame strategy. Of course there is nothing wrong with Sif Muna/Vehumet either. Only from Chei I would refrain until you know what your body slot mutation is.

Well, the way I see it, there are two ways to play: Optimize wins per time or optimize wins per games. I am firmly in the former category and always thought that I'd share it with the majority (and given that a serious attempt may take 24 hours or more I still consider it the more sensible one). Tha...

Read-identifying a scroll of immolation can be even more dangerous when you are surrounded by four ghoul friendlies who suddenly decide to not be friendly anymore. This prelude to YASD was made even more embarassing by the fact that immolation was the last unidentified type of scroll in the game.

joellercoaster wrote:Your flayed ghost says, "I will never run around and desert you."

Dear Gods, did I just get rickrolled by Crawl?

I got this one too, but even cuter:

"Nessos says, "I will never run around and desert you."
Nessos blinks

I'm wondering if my current character looks like he might survive a trip to the Abyss if I unwield this dagger of distortion I've had since D2... Not sure how to post an online character dump, but he's a L15 KoBe, with a ring of sustenance, evokable levitation, and a pair of Stlth++ boots, so I fig...

Yes, the Crypt IS full of undead. They're actually pretty pedestrian undead until you get to the last level, which often contains ancient liches, the more advanced mummies, and other horrors. Probably not worthwhile for your character, no. Your current plan - finish the main Dungeon, then come back...

Stalker is a background that allows you to survive the early game pretty easily (Stealth, Evaporate, good dagger, no blatant weakness) while already including Spellcasting, Fighting and no reliance on a god which means that you can enter various paths depending on what you find in the earlygame. Mak...

Personally, the limited carrying space and necessity of stashes always struck me as one of the key challenges of roguelikes that need not be removed. IF we were to remove (or alleviate) it, I'd rather suggest Bags of Holding to solve the problem altogether. There should be a way to implement those. ...

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