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personally i like fire storm a lot better, mainly due to smite targeting and los-interruption by the vortexes.

just bought the game as well, 13,50$ is money well spent i guess, with all the effort the developers put into that.
Let's see how it plays!

congratulations, the first full win is always something special. and two full ziggurats are a feat event most 15-rune-wins don't have, astounding that you took that risk on your first character there AND lived to tell about it!

I usually don't have problems to kill Gloorx if i have Fire Storm together with necromutation. Dispel Undead has a limited range and she usually dies quickly, usually melee-ing a fire vortex. But I have lost two melee characters to her, I won't underestimate her again - without cBlink it is difficul...

well, if there is treasure in it i ain't complaining! too bad i skipped it!

eldritch tentacles come with a huge "get out there" sign, if you ignore it, too bad. if you did not know about their capabilities: lesson learned, i guess.

Just survived one, but it was pretty close. Stupid me did not think about ending necromutation until the very end though, and also did not use mapping and cTele.
Still, kind of brutal if you are just scooting around in pan and have only a hellion island or a random pan lord room as dangers in mind.

wow, holy pan levels, that sounds really mean!
i guess the times of easy pan (at least in comparison to hells) are going to be over.

Berserker is an excellent starting background, but if you want to go for 15 runes it is much easier to leave trog at some time, to plan accordingly and take up spellcasting (for example not burning all spellbooks you encounter). Regarding tomb: Imo the myriad of zot traps there is one of the biggest...

Porterhouse, medium rare, please.

abyss is very varying, sometimes you survive with a lvl 12 char, sometimes you get really nasty situations with a endgame char.
too bad that you did find so many enemies you could not run from, i found running much easier with the new abyss as even blocked exits sometimes open up after a few turns.

Now, if you want fantasy that reminds you (well, me anyway) of Crawl, then I have to recommend Steven Erikson. Most of my character names are based on his. :-) He has characters that can turn into dragons, high magic, and literally armies of undead, but still manages to make it grittily realistic. ...

wearing the armour also has some heavy penalties, as you need 3*EVP as a minimum strength, and are 5 points short of that. together with an executioner axe it is somehow suprprising that you hit enemies at all :) you'll learn the ropes pretty quickly i guess, too bad you will always remember that pl...

My MuSus always die to lazyness, i just cannot have fun AND the needed number of summons around me at all times

if it takes long to use an enhancer staff the jelly has plenty of time to corrode your armour instead...

Thanks for the well-written story, i enjoyed reading it (at work, craving to go home and play again...), good to see that at least a few tips might have been helpful. Strange that shadow creatures did not work out for you, i regularly got whole draconian bands from it, and they obliterated fire orbs...

I agree on Sif, the early game is easier with Vehumet, you have spells guaranteed and get wizardry for conj/summ, but in lichform Sif channeling is really nice. If you have a staff of channeling you could use that instead of energy/wucad, at least when time is not critical. 10% fail chance is quite ...

Orbs can be done with OOD if you are not in a thin tunnel. firestorm is not the best choice, it damages them, but takes a lot of time. i think i used crystal spear on my last mage (if OOD was out of the question), with conjuration 20 it might be trainable without too much effort. slime is also doabl...

73, wow. too bad!

casting firestorm on the vault8 guards kind of wakes up the whole level, it's a bit like the one time i tried the shield of the gong... it is nice to get the guards when you pulled them up the stairs though, did that today: phase shift, stairs down, stairs up, cBlink, firestorm. firestorm will have ...

I like Isky, at least until you can get a Bolt of Cold online via high conjuration skill alone.
Bolt of Magma is a bit lackluster, i highly prefer Bolt of Fire.
Firestorm is still a bit away skill-wise, and miscasts are pretty ugly, especially if they cost 9MP.

Afaik haste is still golden.

oh yes, too bad with the wall, a step first would have been better (always a tad bit risky due to a possible double move i think).
i'd say hit that teleport trap and be lucky

i would blink in direction of the stairs, take a shot at the ooze and kill it, and rest on the stairs, if something comes up take the stairs up.

rogochin wrote:brown ooze has some ranged attack.

nope

new challenges, looking forward to it!
if it is similar to the spider lairs you can find randomly (ghost moths, emperor scorpions) it will probably need quite some feedback and balancing.

best of luck, and welcome back. I also enjoy the new tactical depth of fire elementalists, i was never very successful with them in older versions (0.7), but have recently played one to 15 runes.

sardonica wrote:Where's the poll options for "Mods, please delete this drunken bullcrap"?

Don't read Crazy Yiuf's Corner if you come unprepared...

As i already mentioned in your other thread, a dagger is not a good weapon to fight with. It is excellent for stabbing, but as soon as the enemy is awake/unconfused you need something with more oomph. Either train offensive spells or a bigger weapon, i usually go with long blades on former stabbers ...

wow, from 0 to 15, quite a feat!
did you watch online games? or figured out everything all by yourself?

Hah, I woulda done elf by now but I can't find the entrance. Been all over orc, gonna head back with some scrolls of mapping and some digging wands and work it out count the stairs, each level must have 3 stairs up and 3 down. if you see only 2, you have missed one. go one up/down and check for sta...

i would do elf first, and if you can become invisible blade is also a joke (animated weapons have no see invisible). shoals should also be easier than vault 8, only the last level and the occasional kraken are dangerous. with my last stabber i used mass confusion to great effect, but you should also...

congratulations on the full win. really nice equip.

now you'll have 15 runes on a caster as your quest

Found that on D4, carried it 4 levels around until i found an identify scroll. I guess Sif Muna will be displeased when i remove my amulet of faith, but...

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Just as a handy tip: If you do one of the harder hells (ice, fire) scrolls of magic mapping come in very handy. I usually do hells last (just before tomb), and if i have some of them mapping scrolls i use them.
With my last SpEn i was able to avoid nearly all combats in hell

no id scrolls in any shops? if you want to go for 15 runes rMut will be very helpful, otherwise you "only" have to worry about orbs of fire. You have crystal spear which should take care of them, but even 1-2 mutations can kind of ruin your day. I would suggest not to carry around valuable...

congratulations, you finally made it!
good to know that you can sleep again

necromutation is golden together with a staff of channeling, especially on a spriggan. if you don't find one regeneration+sublimation are helpful, but sublimation can also be hard to find. resting in hells is really not advisable, but becoming paralyzed and getting inbound and even summoned enemies:...

Yes, engaging Nikola without rElec is usually deadly. Now you know, won't happen next time. Btw, a potion of resistance helps a lot when encountering him. As long as you are not undead, confusion can be cured easily with a potion, but scrolls/potions will be lost forever, i would usually prefer cons...

Bad luck on the end, constriction is very dangerous for melee characters. Playing under penance is dangerous, some angels would have saved you most likely.
Still, you learned a lot (don't move when confused, for example) i guess, so your next char will be better.

well played. first win and directly 15 runes, how many characters have you splashed with x runes in the process? :) and not a single spell cast in the process. Instead of training some less useful skills (like dodging in plate, or traps&doors above 12, or unarmed above 1) you could have invested...

congratulations on the full win!
(extra-full with a complete ziggurat as well)

I loved the double storms as well on my last DeFe

works similar with Trog summons and electrocution-weapons while standing in water

Seems there is a reason that you are named "the Cleaver" and not "the Clever"

why did you fight an orb of fire with two rC rings and a melded rF++ armour? They are known to be among the deadliest enemies in all of crawl, even for lvl 27 chars, and moreso without rF+.

imo fighting should be trained on plain every race/class, but that's just me. 82 hp and negative AC is kind of asking for it.

you even had a scroll of blinking, but ignored several low hitpoint warnings. with haste you would have walked away/kited him.

the first 5-10 zig levels should be doable, but control your urge to dive deeper and deeper. you have plenty of gold, even if you don't find much it is most likely worth it, currently your equip is more on the basic side.

you should focus your skills more. invocations was too high, and you could have invested a bit more into fighting, 68 hp are not cutting it at this level. how could the bolt hit you? it was not penetrating. were you not surrounded by summons? ork is usually easier than vaults, especially on a summon...

I don't see much room for improvement on a character like that, you have all your spells mastered. Still, a ziggurat can kill you if you are not careful, especially if you get a Pan or Mummy level on the last ones. necromutation and mass abjuration would be useful to have, and cTele could maybe subs...

I know how to deal with slime creatures. ... I had the slime down to a quarter of it's health before it was too late. You should think about the first part again. If a slime creature merges you should move away. "The monster will die in one more hit" is a risk, and if you take a lot of 99...

a kind of vault on D10, contained (among others) 2 stone giants and a lich. My imp army annihilated them (I had to save me with a teleport) - MuSu is sometimes very strong.

in my opinion some utility spells help a lot. there are some low level ones like flight, swiftness, regeneration that may be helpful, or even a normal blink combined with cTele or something. phase shift & cBlink are very hard to get online in GDA, but cBlink can be a real lifesaver in many situa...

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