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Ascetic is just good to attempt in this run because that is the hardest challenge, and you get multiple deaths to get it. I think it would be more sane to not attempt a crazy challenge conduct when you are playing a horribly weak combo. If the combos are random, probably all future ones will be sig...

Just wanted to share the feedback on the throwing changes so far. Here is the game in question: https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/tabtab/tabtab.txt. Overall throwing felt very strong and I liked both jav's penetration and boomerangs. It does seem like the frequency of silver javelins on the other...

FR: Bring back blowgun of the assassin as an unrand and give it some kind of bonus with the new needles.

Ascetic is just good to attempt in this run because that is the hardest challenge, and you get multiple deaths to get it. I do agree that it is hard, but it is better to lose the T1/T2 bonus and get the ascetic bonus vs not getting the ascetic bonus. I've personally found a few early levels of steal...

Honestly just turn on fighting dodging stealth and evocation and don't really focus on your skills (may want focus a bit more on UC earlier on). There really isn't much to it. Clear each floor staying close to the stairs and lure every monster to it and berserk before hand if its dangerous. Ascetic ...

Get a rune without using scrolls and potions. Probably the hardest CSDC one time bonus. I've never tried a low level game either but I've seen attempts.

This challenge is a bit complicated as it ultimately depends on what you want to go for. I think Ru is stronger than Dith for the T2 bonus, Ru is stronger than Dith in general, an early Ru is better for an ascetic rune attempt (though it would be difficult to get on a weak character). I do think tha...

That would work. Its only the base skill level that matters. I died this CSDC after getting the T2 bonus in Snake attempting to ninja the rune in a bad snake layout. (The one with two lungs of greater nagas and another filled to the brim with snakes. I didn't have apportation and attempted to blink ...

While I do agree with the premise of this thread, I feel like some of these changes promote linearity and the lack of linearity is what makes DCSS unique compared to other roguelikes like Brogue and Infra-Arcana. Other branches like hellcrawl do promote this linearity, but I feel like the original g...

A nerf to bloodless seems like a good change (instead of a buff to Alive). It ultimately depends on how strong we want vampires to be as a species. Interested in hearing what others think of the change. I probably won't be playing on the branch until CSDC is complete.

I'm a bit surprised you only had 3 rations left. I think your spell casting level was fine honestly (it tends to be far higher than what I normally get). You could have dove down to Zot 5 and try to get the orb with that amount of rations (I dive Zot in all my games). Not sure exactly what was causi...

Sleep stabs builds do work with Dith though it is generally is more challenging to plan. Dynast does a bunch of low level SpEn runs on stream sometimes. Here is an example: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/415561511

As a general rule for hybrids, focus on training one way of killing things and shore up your defenses before trying to kill things in other ways.In your case, I would train for fulminant prism, train defenses and then get's some general weapon skill (you could training long blades instead of fulm. p...

Train early stealth on a naga. As a naga, you are slow so general you deal with early threatening enemies by walking away from it (stealth helps) or by burning consumables to fight or flee. Early game, I would prioritize getting sticks to snakes and spider form castable. (Spider form can really be a...

Abyss would probably be easiest, followed by slime and then by Vaults 5 for this character. Abyss is easiest as you worship Dith and so have good stealth and shadow form/shadow step to walk into a rune vault and get the rune. Slime in general is easy to handle as long as you can handle acid blobs an...

I think in terms of god choice, Dith > Ru >> Usk. Both Ru and Dith are slow gods where the main benefit occur pretty late. Dith is actually really strong in general - he just isn't used quite as heavily as in a normal game as you don't need to ninja. I have a practice run where I tested out Dith and...

The key mistake here is fighting Mara. Mara in general shouldn't be engaged. If you do engage her, then do so by the stairs with a rF so you can go back up the stairs and reset the fight if an illusion of you is formed. While using good spells is good advice, it is good that you are staying pretty f...

Throwing is fine on OgWz. With OgWz the direction you go largely depends on what the dungeon gives you. If it gives you early books, you may go in that direction and ignore throwing. If it gives you good weapons and armour, throwing can be quite good to pick up.

My conclusions are: I have spend to much exp on defense this early, I should have spent more exp on spellcasting,fire magic and conjurations. Supplementing your primary magic school with physical/energy damage spells is optimal in order to handle all kinds of mobs. Some extra stealth is worthwhile ...

So I have a practice csdc character of hep that is using an arc blade (and has access to a singing sword) and every time I attack next to my ancestor I get asked if I really want to attack it. Is there way for me to disable behavior in the rcfile while still being prompted for actions that would pla...

I splatted my first character after I got back into the game due to a net trap in Zot 5(was confused by the new trap changes). It definitely does suck losing that character in tomb especially with the amount of blink/fog scrolls you had.

I'd avoid Tengu and Deep Elves as they in practice are more difficult than a human due to their worse hp aptitude. My biggest piece of advice is to first skill for your key spell before training defenses. For a Fire Elementalist, the best spells are Sticky Flame and Conjure Flame. Conjure Flame is a...

I would stick to the short blade as the demon whip isn't that much better. Trog will eventually grant you other shortblades as well. A good shortblade (preferably antimagic), with a might potion and a few brother in arms can take out orbs of fire. If trog doesn't give you a relevant weapon gift, you...

Just finished of crawl's cosplay challenge in the experimental branch and did Tomb and Zot (https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/bhi0ya/crawl_cosplay_challenge_set_5_week_2_jory_the/). Overall I like the recent changes, but I would like to echo many other's sentiments. The bat form cost felt ok (t...

Am currently playing a VpEE of Dith and have snagged 3 runes: https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/tabtab/tabtab.txt. I do concur that bloodless seems a bit too strong as well and I do agree that one pip of rC is enough (honestly it would be plenty strong even with no rC). Not sure how a -10% hp deb...

If there is any Zealot background i'd want it would be Slime Knight.

This already occurs in the experimental branch.

Training both skills would simply improve the success rate of a spell faster and improve spell power. Skilling in mostly one vs evenly mostly depends on the spells you want to learn. (If there are lots of good hexes you want to learn and only a few good translocations that train more hexes and put f...

Duvessa brought up a few good points about some of the cons of removing the Zot rune lock that I didn't consider. Namely, the fact that Vaults 5 and Slime probably wouldn't be done, though I think both lair branch endings would end up being done for xp (I think all the S4 endings are less dangerous ...

I'd base gear choices mostly based of of AC+EV and try to have MR+++ and rElec (if the games give it to you). Other resistances like rF, rC, rN, and sometimes rElec are often swappable as rings if a dangerous threat uses that element (though it is a qol upgrade to have it on your armour as well). Pe...

Thanks for the changes ebering, hellmonk and all. I've been having a lot of fun playing a passwall/petrify stabbing VpEE and even had a pretty sweet encounter where I got shafted from D6-D9 into a vault, took a downstair and survived without breaking a sweat! The only thing I think I would change at...

It mostly depends on the number of mutation potions you have. Mutation potions are biased toward good effects. Generally the higher number of mutation potions you have in the early game, the more correct it is to quaff as it could provide a significant boost in power to allow you character ahead of ...

Petercordia gear advice is correct. It looks like this death was due to the desolation of salt. In general, I don't think the desolation of salt is worth doing due to its danger (though loot is often good). If you do go in, get ready to bail if things get hairy. In terms of skilling, I'd focus on tr...

TheMeInTeam wrote:if you want to min/max survival without such options you can pull convorkers or vault sentinels to Zot:5 to clear the lungs

I want to see someone make this big brain play.

I kind of had a random thought about what the consequences of Zot not requiring 3 runes to enter and retrieve the orb of zot. I.e., Zot could be freely entered. I'm not really making any suggestion. Mostly just theory crafting. Pros of removing the rune lock: It's possible to play some really intere...

I think the largest mistake is not treating Zot 5 with the new traps as the most dangerous or second most dangerous (after Tomb) in the game. The largest error here was likely not buffing up after making an entrance in a Zot lung and not aggressive using scrolls of fog to manage LOS.

I'd assume the +3 leather armour of mr is better as I probably gives you better AC + EV. As Sprucery says, MR is the most important resistance.

Stealth is most useful in the early game when you are in light armour. The biggest benefit to high stealth is the ability to simply not engage dangerous enemies. In a recent mummy wanderer game (with the wz book), I primarily wore robes and a ring of stealth for the entire early game and all of lair...

As mentioned above there are specific weapon levels where a weapon reaches min delay. Fighting, armour and dodging can really be trained all game. As an arcane marksmen you can pick up spells as well, but it may be simpler to win with pure range. If you do go pure range, the only spells I would high...

You could also id all the artifact weapon is your game. You might find one with -tele. Before clearing it, I would try to lure out as much of a lung as possible by shouting.

I can say this until I'm blue in the face. I just checked the online database. For 0.23 the current average shafts per won game is 2.24 (down from the 2.5 when I checked on just the tournament games). Hmm. Then maybe the frequency of shafts are ok - It could just be confirmation bias where I have h...

I do agree that I would prefer deliberate and mandatory hatches for specific branches or potentially even randomly as they are quite a bit more interesting than random shafts, which can range from game ending (early shafts especially with weaker races like mummies), annoying (in the case of late gam...

On a strategic level that's the main thing along with training your weapon skill. You can move into heavier armour and have slow uncastable later if you feel like you aren't getting much value out of the spell. Cause fear, while good can be ignored if you feel like you have enough blink/fear scrolls...

I'd say the most important spells in the AM starter book that can give that benefit are portal projectile and cause fear (at high spell power, it can be better than reading a scroll of fear). Do prioritize, your defensive and weapon skills (while relying on the slow spell for early encounters). Thes...

I think you underrate the strength of pure mages quite a bit. General melee focused characters have a better time on d1 and d2 and generally have a better UI (tab is super convenient). However, most book starts do a much better job against threatening enemies (ogres, etc) than melee characters and l...

I'd follow dynast/berder's advice (they have some of the longest NaWn win streaks). Early game train fighting and stealth until you find a good weapon. Then train that weapon skill. Learn to evaluate threats appropriately (i.e avoid d1 jackal backs, d2 and d3 gnolls, d2 adders, etc) and make use of ...

I'd try to stay in ring mail mostly early on and try to get Slow at about 20% fail while prioritizing early fighting. Hopefully after the first few floors you can find a decent weapon to use and try to start using that while focusing on some early weapon skill. Afterwards I would probably train enou...

Sorry for the double post. This one seemed worthy of another post. The entrance was surprisingly quite tense. Turns out Shatter can clear Zot pretty easily. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.2 (tiles) character file. Game seed: 8165744219513746245 3019367 OldFaithful the Metallomancer (level 27,...

Dis down. It felt like quite a grind even though I didn't really have any risk of dying. Will probably learn Yara's and id all one handed artifacts hoping for -Tele. General plan on Zot would be to spam shatter and camp the stairs otherwise. Probably need to full clear Zot for safety. I guess my oof...

I can't use potions and scrolls in Zot as part of the challenge. I'd like to have the option to yara myself in case I get marked.

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