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Wrong link? Those are not Hellcrawl scores. I think I have the top score there

Nerf Jiyva

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I find my pure ranged characters often hit a wall at V:$. Not having that !augmentation bonus makes the initial rush a lot rougher. Have you tried that penetration spell though? Having a good ranged option definitely adds a lot to hellcrawl melee guys, particularly with song of slaying. I would lik...

Devastation is quite odd for a brand. I never use them as a player because they make your weapon way too slow but I fear them greatly when a monster has them and they are a heavy hitter. I retract my previous sentiments about Devastation. My highest score is using Devastation brand now for almost t...

Also, I have an old DsBe completion using Mace of Variability. Something like this is quite strong. I pretty much sucked but with the boost it has all the Pan lords stunlocked within a couple hits. Same could probably be said about Oka/Variability but you also have the chance with DsBe to Hurl Damna...

Have people interested in hellcrawl high scoring looked at the scores on the Japanese server? I recall some pretty fast runs, though I think they go speedrun mode which imo is not really the right thing for high scoring, too easy. I think it's true that Chei is the best choice for scoring in hellcr...

There absolutely needs to be the added factor of actually finding the shrine and having the tempt of other gods along the way. The high scores just looks retarded right now. Lol

TK right now is so overpowered and imbalanced there's absolutely no reason to pick anything else and try to be competitive on the scoreboards with it lol. Nothing comes close. Yes Dragon Form is probably also strong as TK, all forms are. I just finished a TeTK game and had enough to sustain Statue F...

Also something to be said about Torpor Knight + Statue Form. Far too strong and crowds up the entire top 20 with a couple exceptions. Been trying it and can get all Pan runes and enter Zot by XL22 lol

Rast wrote:
amyqute1 wrote:Something's wrong with Jiyva.
I just went to 200 piety and she didn't gift me a single mutation.
Really needs a fix as to how and when she implements mutations to be more static.

What race?

Not anything mutation immune

severen wrote:Devastation is quite odd for a brand. I never use them as a player because they make your weapon way too slow but I fear them greatly when a monster has them and they are a heavy hitter.

I mean devastation is pretty ballin' on SOME builds. Try a Merfolk Skald with a Deva Demon Trident lol

Something's wrong with Jiyva.
I just went to 200 piety and she didn't gift me a single mutation.
Really needs a fix as to how and when she implements mutations to be more static.

I'm about done with these stupid devastation brands also.

Donald hits you with a +1 long sword of devastation (36)!!!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The blow is devastating (47)!
You die...

Lmao

Things that still need addressing: Qazlal still 1shotting pan lords with DA Remove Devastation brand (Why the hell is this a thing, anyway? Lol) Fix Jiyva's mutation imbues (It seems that you can sometimes get one, two, three, or no divine mutations, and also that Mutagenic Shafts can remove them an...

I think that's the whole point of speedrun, is the irreversible rot, for every class, not just Vine Stalker...

Okay tourney's over bring it back lol

Speaking of mutations, there is no mutation message when you acquire the mutation 'Your non-sustained spells cost 1 less MP to cast'.
A very minor, non-issue thing, but it's missing. =]

Give Siegmund his Scythe back!

"Mummies are better than formicids".

hehe

Xom is still annoying. The random environment effects are a little more reasonable ... Should be immune to Xom's clouds though so as to better utilize those effects. Also, stacking opposing mutations starts to get REALLY annoying. With it switching so often you end up with a lot of overlap ... ie; S...

I haven't played Qazlal in a while, but it being strong in the later game may not be a bad thing. Since upstairs don't exist in Hellcrawl, the noise is a fairly big disadvantage, especially in the earlier parts of the game. I tested some of what you were saying above in wizmode and 27 invo; I didn'...

Okay. IMO Qazlal needs some tweaking too. Either less scaling for Upheaval (Last game 2 upheavals killed Antaeus) and Disaster area ... Slower piety gain maybe? He just feels so much stronger than any other god right now, and with his huge piety gains you can really just blink and DA in any troublin...

Lol, utilizing the mace of variability was fun ...
I banished Lom Lobon on my first hit on him ...
Also melee'd Cerebov to death without taking a single damage...

Neat stuff.

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I tried a Nemelex game (NaTm) in the latest version. I did find an amulet of faith somewhere around D:6, so it was easier than usual. Some general observations: (a) Nem is, as usual, really good. (b) Early game Nemelex is a crapshoot but really OP. Example: I had only just taken Nemelex and Invo wa...

Eh, the timer needs to be there ... Loud god like Qazlal that attract the entire map would make the difficulty absolutely negligible ... Especially in shoals where if you don't have flying the difficulty is heavily increased but you could, so to say, just duck into one of the rooms and rest it until...

I've taken to making sure I have like 7 in axes even if I'm not using one, and sitting in the middle mashing tab pretty successfully ... Drain/Vampiric does the trick Or just making sure I have the piety to DA everything ... Or big stealth ... I've actually never hit the doom timer in V:3, only Shoa...

What is going on with the Trolls and 2headed ogres killing me in D:2 now? Lmao, was this intended? It's dumb.

Confirmed, fixed.

Seems to be fixed, Thanks @Hellmonk

Good news. Kobold and Gnoll were still playable but getting a bit boring. The skill trainings were disastrous and made everything else unplayable. I hopped in Severen's game and we had a bit of a whinefest before he killed himself :D But his last 2 games knocked me down a couple spots on the top 20 ...

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