Search found 182 matches

Monday, 9th March 2020, 14:18

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: What are the actually effects of +str on damage?

Replies: 22

Views: 3645

Re: What are the actually effects of +str on damage?

Multiply by 7 for that ring and you get 4.36 extra damage, which is more damage than +4 slaying (again, considering main attack only). This character has aux attacks, though... Why do you mention this? I am just providing the comparison of STR to main-attack slaying because the benefit is easy to i...

Friday, 6th March 2020, 22:56

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: What are the actually effects of +str on damage?

Replies: 22

Views: 3645

Re: What are the actually effects of +str on damage?

1. Strength reduces penalties from wearing body armour; see {aevp}. Has a small impact on melee and launcher base damage, roughly +25% of initial damage per 10 points of str above 10. 2. applies a slightly harsher penalty for str<10 The "roughly" there is actually very close; each point o...

Monday, 2nd March 2020, 15:45

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Troll

Replies: 24

Views: 3759

Re: Troll

I thought the way to compare weapons was damage/delay or more likely (damage * proc)/delay. Why would you compare just damage without taking into account delay. Yes, I know that some procs like elec are additive, but still. Both proc and delay can be thought of as multipliers of your post-AC damage...

Monday, 2nd March 2020, 14:53

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Troll

Replies: 24

Views: 3759

Re: Troll

Yes it is true, since it's also true that a quick blade is better than a short sword with zero slay, no brand, and 12 sb skill. (Yes I let myself get trolled into pulling up fsim for this. I tried yaks, death yaks, wyverns, stone giants, orb guardians, and orbs of fire with various amounts of fight...

Friday, 28th February 2020, 23:50

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Troll

Replies: 24

Views: 3759

Re: Troll

They stack multiplicatively. The effect of Fighting skill on weapons is identical to the effect of Fighting skill on unarmed combat. Knowing this allows me to make more accurate comparisons more easily, so I have edited to replace the bad summary (which is spoilered for reference). Hopefully it is ...

Friday, 28th February 2020, 21:44

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Troll

Replies: 24

Views: 3759

Re: Troll

They stack multiplicatively. The effect of Fighting skill on weapons is identical to the effect of Fighting skill on unarmed combat. That is right. Your last comment prompted me to do a quick search of the source to confirm, and I saw it in attack::calc_damage. In that case, the calculations are mo...

Friday, 28th February 2020, 21:18

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Troll

Replies: 24

Views: 3759

Re: Troll

the bonus this gives is not multiplied by Fighting, so it is not apples-to-apples the same type of damage growth as UC This is just a flat-out lie. From the knowledge bots page on "skill bonus", I can see that max weapon skill gives an average bonus of 54% whereas max fighting gives an av...

Friday, 28th February 2020, 16:13

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Troll

Replies: 24

Views: 3759

Re: Troll

It is a comparison of base damage only. Yes, I left out the skill-level-based multiplier that weapons get (and the bonus this gives is not multiplied by Fighting, so it is not apples-to-apples the same type of damage growth as UC) . I also left out most of the differences in speed and accura...

Thursday, 27th February 2020, 16:15

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Troll

Replies: 24

Views: 3759

Re: Troll

Still playing with Troll fighter. Once I get Invocation to 8, do I need to worry about changing what I am learning? Just leave fighting/uc/throwing/armor/dodge/shielding on and let it ride? From a bigger picture perspective, think about whether you want to be primarly a thrower or primarily UC; whi...

Monday, 24th February 2020, 15:45

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CIP:OpFi Oka

Replies: 81

Views: 8514

Re: CIP:OpFi Oka

I encountered an orb of fire on Zot:2 and ended up getting the deterioration 2 mutation. Obviously OOF's are hella strong, but I found the lightning spire didn't really work to block LOS... Well, it did - but it went like this: OOF into view place lightning spire between me and it, OOF approached m...

Tuesday, 18th February 2020, 20:52

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: CiP: GnAr^Dith

Replies: 4

Views: 711

Re: CiP: GnAr^Dith

Regarding the CPA, every artifact is different so I can't say too much without knowing what it is. Generally bigger body armour comes with better defenses but reduces your maximum comfortable spell level; in this case you would lose the ability to cast level 5 spells for now and your level 4 spells ...

Friday, 14th February 2020, 21:48

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Boomerangs not returning after portal projectile lava shot

Replies: 1

Views: 757

Re: Boomerangs not returning after portal projectile lava sh

Returning and penetration brands are ignored when using portal projectile. My guess is that it's intentional, but I don't know for sure. It can make you think twice about using Portal Projectile, so I think it's a good feature, but I don't have a strong opinion about it.

Thursday, 13th February 2020, 14:48

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Too many Evo items.

Replies: 22

Views: 2298

Re: Too many Evo items.

Good uses come at different times in the game so you don't really need to carry them all all the time. For example I drop my wands of flame after shoals/swamp. Random effects wands get dumped as soon as I have a way to kill most annoying stuff like 2 headed ogres instead of hoping for a lucky roll ...

Wednesday, 29th January 2020, 16:59

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Demonspawn - fighter vs gladiator

Replies: 11

Views: 1761

Re: Demonspawn - fighter vs gladiator

That was bad advice when mikee gave it and it's bad advice now. Don't take off your shield until you find a two-handed weapon or spells. Shield penalties to attack delay are not nearly that bad. You are correct that this is bad advice overall. However it is true that wearing a shield really is a ne...

Tuesday, 28th January 2020, 15:03

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Help me find a niche for Slings!

Replies: 10

Views: 1691

Re: Help me find a niche for Slings!

duvessa wrote:you are a small species and addicted to shields

Actually boomerangs are overpowered compared to slings.

Wednesday, 15th January 2020, 15:19

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Noob question re:Skills

Replies: 5

Views: 875

Re: Noob question re:Skills

Yes, they count, and yes this is true for all skills.

Thursday, 19th December 2019, 16:38

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: [CiP] Skull and bones, SkIE^Sif

Replies: 2

Views: 491

Re: [CiP] Skull and bones, SkIE^Sif

Your current failure rate on Glaciate is 89%, which means you've already started to make a dent in it and it should be castable within a character level or two. You also have both a staff and ring of wizardry available, which will help you when the failure rate gets close to usable. It looks like in...

Wednesday, 18th December 2019, 16:36

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Stat upgrades on hybrids

Replies: 24

Views: 2964

Re: Stat upgrades on hybrids

There was a recent thread on the topic of stat choices in general , which you may find helpful. I will go into more detail here. In my experience, a stat increase will do roughly this much (I am talking about after all stepdowns and interactions, so a lot of character-specific stuff is handwaved, m...

Monday, 16th December 2019, 19:21

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: anti-luring feature: statues

Replies: 17

Views: 1961

Re: anti-luring feature: statues

This concept sounds pretty cool, but I think it would work better if the statues activate only when both the statue and a non-statue monster are in LOS of the player character. Because the player sometimes doesn't know if a monster is tracking the player from out of LOS (it may or may not have lost ...

Tuesday, 19th November 2019, 14:49

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Evaluating armour (melee dude)

Replies: 10

Views: 1882

Re: Evaluating armour (melee dude)

GDR only applies against melee attacks. This fact alone suggests that it is one of the least (if not the least) important properties of armour.

Monday, 18th November 2019, 14:59

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: TeFe Geryon in Hell down.

Replies: 22

Views: 2041

Re: YASD: TeFe Geryon in Hell down.

I didnt have Regeneration in my spell library, but I was wearing a regen amulet. Does it give you the same rate? The regeneration status from the spell is much better and gives 1 HP per turn (10 aut), while the amulet only gives 1 HP per 2.5 turns (25 aut). Note that they would stack, if you had bo...

Saturday, 16th November 2019, 17:29

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: General Help With DEWz Survival

Replies: 17

Views: 2217

Re: General Help With DEWz Survival

First of all, good on you for providing the character dumps while asking for feedback. There is a lot of information there. I am going to try not to nitpick the small stuff, and instead direct your attention to what I consider your three biggest causes of death: 1. I see that two out of three of the...

Saturday, 16th November 2019, 15:59

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: TeFe Geryon in Hell down.

Replies: 22

Views: 2041

Re: YASD: TeFe Geryon in Hell down.

Died Level 1 in Gehenna. Cleared most of the level Do not clear levels in hell. The monster set and hell effects are brutal, and there is no loot, so being in hell is a big risk with little reward. Fight to keep your screen clear of enemies, of course, but otherwise the goal is just to go straight ...

Thursday, 14th November 2019, 20:52

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Short Newperson Questions

Replies: 196

Views: 23670

Re: Short Newperson Questions

I'm playing 0.24, and these are all crystal and thus unnaturally hard. I'm not sure if corruption can mess with crystal walls. I know that digging cannot. I just put on a pair of +0 gloves and my AC went from 5 to 7. Take them off, from 7 to 5. Shouldn't the difference be 1, not 2? The gloves are r...

Thursday, 14th November 2019, 20:36

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Short Newperson Questions

Replies: 196

Views: 23670

Re: Short Newperson Questions

Another question would be: Is there any point to these smallish entirely sealed-off chambers? I don't mean vaults, I mean these chamber-like things that are frequently 3x3, 4x4, sometimes a bit larger, and often either entirely or at least mainly composed of transparent crystal. There is usually so...

Thursday, 14th November 2019, 14:56

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: I play so slooowly

Replies: 14

Views: 2467

Re: I play so slooowly

I think I'm probably playing too conservatively because I'm afraid of dying. Well, this suggests that your priorities have evolved, and you now care more about winning a lot of games than starting a lot of games :) It is logical to expect that putting more time into a character results in a higher ...

Thursday, 14th November 2019, 14:39

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Short Newperson Questions

Replies: 196

Views: 23670

Re: Short Newperson Questions

I'm getting a little sick of falling down X floors and dropped into a midst of a mob pile (not infrequently with a nasty unique already in view) on a new unexplored level where teleporting is also dangerous. It seems no matter how carefully I play, this is my downfall in the midgame. What am I miss...

Wednesday, 13th November 2019, 14:57

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP: Tourny MiMo Weapon Tips

Replies: 9

Views: 1073

Re: CIP: Tourny MiMo Weapon Tips

You should stop training shields, and fighting, immediately. With Okawaru it is better to leave Heroism boostable-skills at 22, because Heroism will not raise skills above 27.

Tuesday, 12th November 2019, 19:46

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Visible items in deep water

Replies: 25

Views: 2993

Re: Visible items in deep water

The underlying problem here is that items are bad I cannot tell if you are serious or memeing? monsters carrying items is very bad. This I can agree with. Glossed over the thing about ammo -- obviously it's ridiculous for the player's primary attack to generate new items and this bizarre mechanic s...

Monday, 11th November 2019, 21:55

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Weapon choice M&F

Replies: 12

Views: 1331

Re: Weapon choice M&F

That's right. +0.4 is for a normal headbutt. If I thought holy wrath applied to headbutts, I would have said +0.7. Slaying bonus, eveningstar, no aux: 1 Slaying bonus, eveningstar, 40% chance of headbutt: 1 + 0.4 = 1.4 Slaying bonus, holy wrath eveningstar, 40% chance of headbutt: 1 * 1.75 + 0.4 = 2...

Monday, 11th November 2019, 17:22

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Weapon choice M&F

Replies: 12

Views: 1331

Re: Weapon choice M&F

Slaying also applies to aux attacks in this case the Mi Headbutt, so each point of slaying applies 1.4 times per attack (assuming sufficient str+dex) That is to say, you get a point of slaying on each attack and additionally on each headbutt which occurs on 40% of all attacks with sufficient stats....

Monday, 11th November 2019, 16:54

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Weapon choice M&F

Replies: 12

Views: 1331

Re: Weapon choice M&F

True, but OP said 3 rune game.

Edited my post to include an academic comment at the end (I am sure it will not end up being relevant to OP) :P

Monday, 11th November 2019, 16:45

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Weapon choice M&F

Replies: 12

Views: 1331

Re: Weapon choice M&F

Your Fighting and M&F skill levels are also relevant since they multiply base damage. I'll assume you have about 16 in each and thus get about +60% to base damage. The STR you have mentioned also provides you about +37.5% to base damage. These stack multiplicatively, to become +120% base damage....

Monday, 11th November 2019, 15:42

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: TeFe Geryon in Hell down.

Replies: 22

Views: 2041

Re: CIP: TeFe. Just finished the Slime Pits

As for spells, you probably want to learn bolt of fire. It has full LoS range and pretty good damage. It's also fairly quiet, which can come in handy in many situations. Yes, while bolt of fire is obviously weak compared to existing spells, it can serve as a quiet way to kill weaker enemies, to pre...

Saturday, 9th November 2019, 14:56

Forum: Dungeon Crawling Advice

Topic: Short Newperson Questions

Replies: 196

Views: 23670

Re: Short Newperson Questions

Undead species cannot mutate or morph and will rot instead. Perhaps you're playing an undead species and got zapped by a wand of polymorph?

Friday, 8th November 2019, 16:57

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP: Tourny MiMo Weapon Tips

Replies: 9

Views: 1073

Re: MiMo Weapon Tips

Also, I recently dropped a stack of 23 silver boomerangs and 30 odd poison darts, as I'm having inventory problems, and Javelins are obviously better. Javelins seem hugely powerful. Am I right in thinking boomerangs are not quite as worth keeping hold of? This is true, but I would still prefer to h...

Friday, 8th November 2019, 16:36

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: TeFe Geryon in Hell down.

Replies: 22

Views: 2041

Re: CIP: TeFe. Just finished the Slime Pits

If this is the farthest you've gotten with a Tengu, you may want to just go for the win. Vaults 5 and Abyss are risky places to be. If you want to tackle Vaults 5, the simplest way is to stay on the stairs, use them to keep your HP and MP topped up, and prioritize killing wardens (tentacled monstroc...

Friday, 8th November 2019, 15:55

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: OpHu ^ Oka. Throwing still strong.

Replies: 18

Views: 1965

Re: CIP: OpHu; acquirement keeps giving manuals?!

I had rC-, so I knew I had to be careful with cold-themed attacks. I saw a lone Frost Giant. Engaged without buffing up, because he was alone. Was hit by a Bolt of Cold, taking considerable damage. Buffed up instead of disengaging. Buffing up instead of disengaging was probably fine, except you &qu...

Tuesday, 5th November 2019, 22:49

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: OpHu ^ Oka. Throwing still strong.

Replies: 18

Views: 1965

Re: CIP: OpHu, in trouble in Snake

You are thinking about synergy (or as leo littlebook would say, "true combos"). But dungeon crawl is not all about synergy; some stuff is just brokenly overpowered regardless of your character. Javelins are one of those things. Killing things with unarmed instead of javelins on this charac...

Tuesday, 5th November 2019, 18:11

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: OpHu ^ Oka. Throwing still strong.

Replies: 18

Views: 1965

Re: CIP: OpHu, in trouble in Snake

I didn't go invis because it's bothersome to evoke invis all the time and then wait for contam to fade before exploring. Again just a matter of suboptimal convenience :oops: Well, maybe just before using staircases, would be a reasonable compromise. My whip is actually killing enemies very effectiv...

Monday, 4th November 2019, 20:14

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: OpHu ^ Oka. Throwing still strong.

Replies: 18

Views: 1965

Re: CIP: OpHu

Did I make any strategic errors? Yes: And I just went down the 3rd stair from P:1 to P:2 -There's no reason to go down an unknown staircase while visible. As it happens, if you were invisible, those black mambas and salamanders would do less damage to you on average. Invisibility is a massive buff ...

Monday, 4th November 2019, 19:17

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YASD: OpHu ^ Oka. Throwing still strong.

Replies: 18

Views: 1965

Re: CIP: OpHu, in trouble in Snake

You are probably dead. There is a chance of dying this turn, and no action you take will completely remove that chance. Interestingly, because you have almost no AC, the fast attackers (guardian serpent and black mambas) have higher average damage to you than the hard-hitting naga warriors. I see tw...

Saturday, 2nd November 2019, 21:30

Forum: Game Design Discussion

Topic: Dartura: Possible Bug?

Replies: 14

Views: 1639

Re: Dartura: Possible Bug?

Dartura Heh heh nice one :) Seriously though, it's better to use the knowledge bots instead of the wiki (or at least, use knowledge bots first, then the wiki if more information is desired). The information is more accurate in general, and definitely so for datura. I saw a group of orcs and a centa...

Thursday, 31st October 2019, 21:30

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Bad luck or yet another shaft death?

Replies: 3

Views: 672

Re: Bad luck or yet another shaft death?

Teleporting after a shaft is generally a mistake. I talked about that in another thread.

If you want an honest answer to your question, you need to include a full morgue. The context of your character is necessary in order to decide correct actions.

Thursday, 31st October 2019, 14:48

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP: First streak!

Replies: 2

Views: 526

Re: YAVP: First streak!

You do realize trolls can wear hats, right? :)

Well done!

Tuesday, 29th October 2019, 19:32

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: YAVP GnWr of Kiku

Replies: 4

Views: 715

Re: YAVP GnWr of Kiku

Some important observations: Freezing Cloud does not suck for the simple reason that your undead minions and/or summons will not aggro even if you cast it directly on them. However, I sadly and regrettably replaced it with Ozocubu's Refrigeration which, I discovered with horror, my summons do not t...

Tuesday, 29th October 2019, 17:00

Forum: Crazy Yiuf's Corner

Topic: Timed loot

Replies: 2

Views: 934

Re: Timed loot

Agreed that incentives to play faster (in game time) are overall good for the game, while power spiral is overall bad. If the timed incentives were less rewarding (compared to the current portals), we could have more of the good with less of the bad.

Monday, 28th October 2019, 14:45

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Re: CIP MiFi (First Three Runes!)

Replies: 13

Views: 1422

Re: CIP MiFi: Oklob Sapling next to Temple

Again you can use x -> v to see what each enemy can do. An Ufetubus is basically just a goblin at this point. A Hellwing can sort of teleport to spaces adjacent to you, but doesn't do much damage. A reaper hits really hard (exactly how hard will depend on what weapon it has) and has reaching (due to...

Friday, 25th October 2019, 19:15

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Re: CIP MiFi (First Three Runes!)

Replies: 13

Views: 1422

Re: CIP MiFi: Oklob Sapling next to Temple

Why not train throwing or for a good ranged weapon? Oka is incredible with either, and these would handle hydras trivially also. If going exe axe I'd probably go with a longbow, but heroism/finesse boomerangs + javelins are also extremely powerful (and if you have silver, better vs OOF/TRJ). Hydras...

Friday, 25th October 2019, 19:00

Forum: YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Topic: Re: CIP MiFi (First Three Runes!)

Replies: 13

Views: 1422

Re: CIP MiFi: Oklob Sapling next to Temple

You have an unidentified randart ring mail in your inventory, try it on. Also, you may want to Ctrl+F for plate armour that you might've missed; your +4 chain mail is probably worse than a +2 plate armour. Also, I would use those scrolls of enchant armour on your gloves and hat. Agreed that evocatio...
Next

Return to advanced search

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by ST Software for PTF.