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Finally, you can drain and holy wrath at the same time, giving a mixed group of living and undead each a little something.

So, just a thought. Generally speaking, the brand options given by these gods are not the greatest things around. Most players will have an endgame weapon that would benefit from, say, elec or the like moreso, and will likely have artefact weapons for much of the game. Holy Wrath and Distortion are ...

Indeed. I'm going to do what I should have with this one.

I'll probably go with TSO late-game. HOPEFULLY I can find the Obsidian Axe again.

Yeah, well, after doing runs with VsMo^Chei, GnMo^Chei, FoFi, and other such builds that aren't the easiest things in the world, I decided to do this. GrBe^Trog. Kinda on the easy side. TBH, I kinda wish I had done extended at this point. I had the kit to do it, honestly. BUT, decided to NOT be gree...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:I would argue that it is harder to be stealthy and avoid hits when you have bad vision.

Ofc, but the concept here is the old "blind fighting dude who has compensating senses" so I'll suppose it is passable.

I also haven't thought about or tested the interaction between Ashenzari and Troglodytes, so it probably doesn't work well at the moment. Currently, under the iteration of {rCurse} so to speak, Ash seems like a really powerful god. Troglodytes can still pick up scrolls of remove curse, and since th...

Here's another problem with spell hunger that the OP mentioned -- It is rarely tactical because all you need is a super short little code in your rc to 100% automate the process of butchering and eating, meaning that for nearly all of a 3 rune game and most of a 15 rune game (where it matters, at le...

So, we all know that certain creatures can't wear certain things (typically armor) which affects their backgrounds. One thing I've noticed, however, is that without compensation for the lost equipment, this makes the background slightly less useful on certain races. Not necessarily enough to discour...

Based on Shtopit's idea new game mode suggestion: you get max-piety Halo from TSO, mutation immunity from Zin, Ely's protection from harm, Clarity from Ash, water walk from Beogh, +15 to stats (without slow movement) from Chei, max-piety Shadow Mimic from Dith, walking and shooting through plants f...

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I don't think there is any need to say anything but that this is about as logical as Design Suggestions come.

I personally love this concept. It's only a placebo for the overall problem of having a creature geared off of (possibly) the most hated aspect of the game (food clock), but at least it means you don't have to be doing this yourself. Another thing I would like is some way to shortcut "rest-heal...

@Siegurt True, but +4 apts also helps get starting spells online fast. Anyhow, I think this has somehow gotten off the original point I was making that Vampires have a lot of things going for them to make them strong...they are merely put together in a really, REALLY awkward manner. Thus, the OP's s...

Sorry, but writing as if you are pitching a ponzi scheme, in a exaggerated hyperbole isn't a good way to convince me of anything. In any case, if bloodless was that good, then you would automatically sit on entrance till bloodless, rather than waiting some random point on D:1 or D:2. +50 stealth is...

Early game vampires, for me, are quite easy because you can get a massive advantage What is this massive advantage you speak of? The only thing I can think of is fangs, and it really isn't a massive advantage. The ability to go bloodless. If I want to play a vampire, I'm playing Stabby McStab. I ca...

I can see your point, but turning into Spriggan+ on D:1 negates some of the starting threats. To be quite honest, this isn't much of an issue one way or the other -- getting it at start would certainly be useful, but not notably more useful. Honestly, I think you're just pointing out the larger issu...

Additional clarification:

Please feel free to post any thoughtful material intended to further discussion, even if it disagrees with the basic premise of this post (i.e, changing Yred)

Perhaps I phrased that wrong -- what I was wanting to avoid is what I have seen before, when a thread made on a good topic gets sidetracked into the "I love XYZ, keep it!" and "I hate XYZ, axe it!" camps rather than finding progressive options. So I'll clarify here: Please feel f...

Maybe it is just me, but well-branded long blades (such as elec) do well on builds that end up with insane EV. I was on a run that ended up well over 50 EV (items helped, and by the time I died I had switched to different gear combo), and riposte triggered ridiculously often, to the point that I was...

I will say that I hate draining more than most anything in the early game (and still loathe it in the mid-game). Contamination is doable, but still annoying. This post seems to overlook the fact that [quote=Shtopit]remove the ID minigame[/quote] should be the only thing in this post. Who in God's gr...

giving piety on demon kills and reducing piety cost of pain mirror should be fine. It would turn him into a god of pain mirror and enslave cerobov in extended. Not amazing, but not useless considering yred is the single strongest god in a 3 rune game. Interesting concept, but the question behind th...

The argument about "arbitrary racial unlocks" is true of literally all the races...meaning that it also doesn't hold water. Early game vampires, for me, are quite easy because you can get a massive advantage, blood is plentiful, and if you are playing a favorably background like En you are...

This thread is inspired by some of the things I've seen floating around. It is Part 1 of two threads (sister thread here ) because I have noticed that ally-gods (and allies in general) tend to get a bit of flak now and then...and for good reason. Yred: Again, like with Part 1, I love the theme of th...

This thread is inspired by some of the things I've seen floating around. It is Part 1 of two threads (sister thread here ) because I have noticed that ally-gods (and allies in general) tend to get a bit of flak now and then...and for good reason. Beogh I, personally, love the overall concept of Beog...

Well, I had gotten my wep skill to min delay, had my armor, dodging, and fighting high, and wasn't planning on using shields. I only started training Evocations super late, after everything else. It was more of a "just in case" because at one point I considered going extended endgame. I'm ...

So, decided to go for a fairly standard melee tank. I think I did fairly well. At one point I had 52 Str (technically could have hit 60 if I used the right items), but those items weren't optimal. Spent the latter portion of the game tabbing, pretty much, which is partly why I got myself into troubl...

What does "entry vault" mean? Did someone actually design a vault with a bunch of orcs around stairs? I don't think that's how it works. Probably it's just a random occurrence Hmm... Sadistic vaults designed around stairs are "random"? Tell that to this one... https://cdn.discor...

Code:: the +10 chain mail of Nyarcheil (worn) {rElec Dex+2} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) It affects your dexterity (+2). It insulates you from electricity.

D:4. On a melee build.

Against common wisdom, I've used Gell's Gravitas quite liberally in the few games I've played that got translocations early. One of the more useful times was standing in a corridor nearly dead with no escape options and a room in front of me. Every time creatures tried to approach I'd pull them back...

Hmm... What if instead of just summon forest, Fedhas was more of a Druid-esque god? For example, you gain nature-based abilities as you level up. Summoning/awakening a forest is only one of those. * -- Nature's Spawn (Passive): Can walk and attack through plants and trees like open squares. All plan...

This race is replaced by one simple skill --

Transmuation.

That's everything you want. Instead of a new race, you could campaign for alterations/additions to the transmutation skill/spells.

What is you paired MP-powered wands as an innate mutation with a really high natural mana regen rate? That might make it a bit more viable without creating new mechanics. In exchange, drop the magical aptitudes drastically so that Gnomes don't have the ability to just spam spells. As in troll/minota...

The more games of crawl I play the less I like the mutation system. Crawl has many factors that are RNG -- items, monsters, etc. These are usually somewhat predictable, and somewhat controllable. Mutations are just pure RNG, and even "good" ones can screw with you (I'm guessing those horn...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22-a1.9 (webtiles) character file. 131980 Alphaeus the Sharpshooter (level 26, -5/241 HPs) *STANDARD* Began as a Gnoll Hunter on Mar 7, 2018. Was the Champion of Cheibriados. Splashed by an acid blob's acid (7 damage) ... created by the Royal Jelly ... on level 5 ...

4) Remove the spirit abilities. Immunity to curse and auto-applied negative effects are good enough (replacing an amulet for this isn't worth it, tho, when you'd usually have a pile of scrolls doing that job). In exchange, increase the aptitudes some. Of note is that they seem to be rather good a t...

^^I think that is the "Insightful" mutation...which I found mildly useful the one game I had it...but also a waste of 24 ID scrolls.

I agree with Shtopit. Optional makes sense, but sometimes damage calcs would be helpful. For example, I was playing a character the other day that had a +3 demon blade of freezing and the sword of power. I had enough skills to put both to decent use, but was curious which was better, particularly wh...

Just occurred to me that no exp cap means Gnolls can officially ascend to god-hood.

Loudoun County Virginia, about an hour west of DC. The datacenters on the east side of the county run about 70% of the worlds internet traffic, humorously enough...still doesn't solve my problems with internet :P. Also, just realized -- Trog and Oka gift ammo. This is essentially useless, because ev...

So, despite being a filthy casual and arguably poor player (but improving!), I'd use that complex system. That said, instead of us having to create the macro, I'd suggest two screens. You have "Spell list" and then you have something like "Research Notes" or the like. Spell list ...

Maybe it's just me, but if I'm berserked and try to use ranged/thrown items I get told "You're too berserk!" Personally, this makes no sense. Berserk is about being mighted, hasted, and having bonus HP in exchange for a loss later and an insane bloodlust that prevents you from doing anythi...

Hmm, I like the unlimited ammo. Rang a bung of SpHu^Oka just to test it out, and the kiting is legit, borderlining on OP.

Dammit. Got Paralyzed just before getting the rune from spiders. Took a ton of hits, which killed me. So good, too. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22-a0-253-gf9d0ce5 (webtiles) character file. 207644 Alphaeus the Imperceptible (level 18, -2/98 HPs) Began as a Spriggan Berserker on Mar 2, 2018. W...

UPDATE: Tabbed through Orc 1 and 2. :D Heading back to Swamp to try to clear that. @Siegurt As to throwing, they have good Aptitudes in it, and Slings crosstrains throwing. What I figure is that if I get slings high enough to get a fustibalus to min-delay, then I'll have enough throwing already from...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22-a0-253-gf9d0ce5 (webtiles) character file. Alphaeus the Imperceptible (Spriggan Berserker) Turns: 29950, Time: 01:00:40 HP: 76/76 (80) AC: 8 Str: 18 XL: 15 Next: 62% MP: 17/17 EV: 36 Int: 15 God: Trog [*****.] Gold: 1866 SH: 8 Dex: 16 Spells: 14/14 levels left ...

So, as of v.21 any weapon with the {*Rage} or {+Rage} ego was typically hated by Chei. Currently wielding one right now, and I've raged several times (via Berserkitis). Chei is keeping me from being hasted I think, but is allowing the rage overall. Quite pleased with this. I'll be checking to see if...

@Bel My point is that I believe there may be a way to denature the concept to the point that it will be at least acceptable. Like I said, we could perhaps make them little more than harmless "flavor" not unlike the creatures that appear behind crystal walls in some starting areas or butter...

Ghosts have limited spells. I think Duvessa said that they can't learn e.g. Ignition. But they also spam their spells a lot, and probably should get some added limit. Teleport Other is horrid in their hands. In general there's also a lot of odd cases in which monster and player have similarly named...

what character on gods green earth is more scared of spider than abyss I cannot imagine that those tarantella/shoals situations(with careful play) would be more difficult than stuff you are likely to run into in abyss. After losing a rather powerful run in spider (Demonspawn with max Powered by Dea...

So, I've had this issue several times, which has led me to make this post. Ghost, in general, are something that I'm iffy about, and there are plenty of posts on that. That said, I want to revisit a few of the top issues in the hopes that the devs and the players and the pro-ghosters and anti-ghoste...

When my Demonspawn develops the mana shield. I seriously hate that thing, especially when I needed to use mana-based god-abilities and magic.

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