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Somebody just had a long thread on precisely this topic, not sure I think its in this forum tho so maybe search around?

Might be a good idea to put this information in his help screen somewhere, seeing as how often it gets asked.

Because we make slightly mean jokes? Nobody really likes Okawaru anyways, his feet stink of cabbages.

Neat. The more you know.

Ba hopping 4 tiles in one turn like a semi-controlled blnk is very different from a centaur speed boost where you have to move thru each tile turn for turn. The two species are radically different on other aspects as well. I dont see a problem there at all.

Keep in mind that vamp wont heal you with undead/demonic enemies, of which there are many in depths. Its still an exceedingly good weapon.

Maybe give centaurs a "burst of speed" ability in the A menu, to preserve some of their flavor and mechanic, but not break the game entirely. Use it and it starts a cool down timer and gives the centaur a speed boost for X amount of turns for as long as the centaur keeps moving (so no hit ...

Today I learnt that immolation originally meant "to sprinkle something with flour and salt". So have scrolls of immolation do that instead! Increase palatability of chunks. Source? Because immolation means to destroy something in a large fire, or to burn a person in a large fire, or to ki...

njvack wrote:Actually, I think that would be a more interesting role for Oka than his current attic-cleaning behavior.

Well that explains everything.

Why only three runes? You work harder!

The pros of Excalibur is that it provides you a guaranteed weapon throughout the game, removing the randomness factor of finding a usable weapon either through RNG or god gifts. Crawl can be easily gamed to ensure a high-quality weapon, depending on what you need or want, so this really isn't a pro...

Crawl might one day go as high as 5, but we really don't know what that would do to you so, let's just start with what we have. What did this do to you? Tell us. And remember, this is for posterity, so be honest. How did this make you feel?

Make a thread in the tavern that is going to last far longer than the version named in the thread title, and which the thread actually has nothing specific to do with in the first place.

"I played your extensive game very shortly and can now come to a justifiable conclusion about drop-rates, strategy, and overall game design and you guys suck." Gonna go way out on a limb here and say you don't have any idea what you are talking about, of course. Maybe give it a few more go...

You mean "skill required to reach min delay vs base damage" and the answer is emphatically yes.

Having an option that negates the challenge of a significant portion of what is supposed to be one of the most challenging floors in a branch, with almost no risk or investment on the part of the player, is a very convincing reason to remove that option. It's like packing the world full of TNT in mi...

You need to break LoS with the orc sorcerers and high priests, never fight more than two at a time, and be able to kill them very quickly either from the edge of LoS (ranged/conjurations) or when they step around a corner following you to your kill-hole (melee). If they get a good demon summon off w...

I used to die a lot in Orc, back when I just walked right in and picked a fight. Luring and taking your time, clearing all the surrounding area, and again luring targets well out of the center (find some random choke points) are all especially rewarded in the open layout of Orc combined with the uni...

You can memorize a spell, but you will drop into penance immediately (I think even from full piety) so what is the point, not sure it was brought up anyhow. Yes, I was arguing, and quite clearly, that Oka is a poor choice because, as I said, ALL other Gods will allow you to learn spells, and to clar...

Read the guidelines for posting in Game Design. Surprised the mods didnt move it sooner, to be honest.

quickblades are really hard to win the game on, helps to find elec but then a lot of monsters resist that now. Pain brand can be really strong, especially if you are only going for three or so runes, might as well go for it and see how you do. The draining QB is going to do a good job as well, and b...

"Your argument is poorly constructed and seems to be confusing you."

Wow get a fucking load of yourself. Not even going to bother reading your wall of BS text at this point.

You dont need Oka to learn statue form. Trog gives you strong allies and berserk on demand, as well as regen/MR boost. If you are going to give him up for another god, you should pick a god that can actually compare to that. Not a lot of them can, but ALL of the other gods will allow you to learn sp...

If you don't actually care whether you finish as a Be then I would leave trog for Oka (or some other) as soon as you think you can survive it. If you can get statue form castable then you can survive trog, no question. For this strategy the weapon gifts are a moot point. If you want to finish as Be...

Heh cool, thanks.

I think you misunderstood what I said. I didnt include the option that removed the ability for a strategic decision from the player (trog autoburning books on sight) because I didnt think it was even an option worth discussing.

I would be tempted to go with a weapon on OpBe because Trog will be raining them down on you ALL GAME and his weapon gifts are not to be sneezed at (you can''t get anti-magic or vamp brand on your tentacles and Trog likes those brands, he will also give you speed brand which makes up for the low aut...

Minotaurs should be allowed to press o in a labyrinth and immediately find all the mini-vaults and finally the minotaur. Who they can be allies with.

Exactly, Tasonir, and you are correct in your assumptions in the pack-design.

You dont need to be heavily invested, you just need to be able to take advantage of the stab bonus, period. In my experience, they die very fast when netted whether you are are SB wielding KoAs or a LB using MiFi. Dont underestimate the power of a tier2 stabbing bonus, which is what nets give. They ...

MainiacJoe wrote:OMG the ObjStats results that Siegurt shared recently show that on average, 5 nets spawn per game, with an additional 7 in Shoals per game.

Yeah. Save them for ancient liches.

My post about stat damage wasnt so much that it wasnt strong enough, but that it was pointless. So either make it a real drawback (if needed), or just get rid of it entirely.

Yeah, I left it out on purpose because I figured the bottom line would be at least allowing the player the decision of when to burn the book, even if they couldnt pick it up with Trog. As for book vaults, you could just not do elf 3 and you are guaranteed what is it, at least five books or something...

The point is that there are too many weapons to make meaningful differentiation possible without resorting to absurd measures. Long blades and m&f have the same problem. It just ends up further confusing new players as to the age old and almost completely impossible to answer question : is weapo...

ten foot pole spear trident halberd scythe red-hot iron demon trident glaive bardiche pitbull-on-a-stick balderdash thingymcchopper

...clearly we need more polearms.

Trog lets you burn spellbooks. Can either: A) remove this ability altogether. B) only allow the player to do it before picking up a spellbook -this promotes tedius behavior of luring monsters over the books C) make spellbooks a stackable inventory item for Be as an exception to the general behavior ...

How often do you need to use a consumable vs how often does a randart kill you? I ID randarts as a second priority, though if I dont have a weapon and it is early game and I dont have remove curse scrolls IDd yet, then I will sometimes burn an ID on a randart item first. Again, depending on how many...

Executioners are the only demons with scythes that are somewhat original, and they dont even technically have scythes. Why do we have grim reapers (and plural at that)? Why not an army of headless horsemen or a demonically possessed santa's workshop? For that matter, can we get pizza back in the gam...

You can do most of vaults without ever seeing much more than 1 monster at a time with firestorm. Hitting monsters out of LoS is seriously broken, but then again so is any character who has enough XP to get firestorm safely castable in the first place while not ignoring their defenses.

You dont want to blind quaff potions, not because of mutation (which is probably going to be good for you), but because you really could have used that might or heal wounds potion at a different time. Same goes for blink and fear scrolls, etc.. Use ID exclusively on potions and scrolls and only blin...

Get rid of grim reapers.

As far as spells go, you need to worry far more about getting a non-fire (earth or pure conjurations are best) spell of killdudes that is around lvl6 or more. Iron shot or OOD are both very reliable. If you dont have a way to patch up your offense agains elementally/fire immune enemies, you are gonn...

bel wrote:Boots of running are good.

Boots of running are brokenly OP, and you should use them on pretty much any character that can wear them (I never play spriggans so not sure there).

Maybe shafts could be replaced by crumbling stairs. For example: - every level has 2 guaranteed stairs down, and 0-2 fake stairs - each time they're used to go down, fake stairs have a 50% chance to crumble and send you 2 floors deeper instead of 1 This is a cool idea, for messing with stairs. I wo...

You should at least read the Crawl Design Philosophy FAQ before talking about what the Devs would or would not do. I did many times. It talks about hard choice between unavoidable deaths and fun game and the latter wins of course. Alternatively, they can be hard in the sense that unavoidable deaths...

Title is purely ornamantle and should move to the in-depth character screen.

I don't think the game is being developed around idea of intentional streak breaking either. Shafts rarely result in directly unavoidable deaths. Devs would be happy to remove unavoidable deaths . You should at least read the Crawl Design Philosophy FAQ before talking about what the Devs would or w...

Just remove scythes already. Give Sigmund a halberd.

My off the cuff response is that temporary stat damage is pretty inconsequential.

P sure Duvessa gave a fairly comprehensive guide somehwere. maybe on the unironic tier list thread..

Funny idea. Confusion is decent, frenzy would be a step up and fitting to the theme. Lower level : chance to confuse all monsters in LOS. (They dont know who they are aligned with and may attack one another) Higher level : chance to frenzy all monsters in LOS. (They go ape shit on one another and mi...

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