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I think enslave would easier to balance (Paralysing Hell lords with shear force of will and then 1-shot stabbing them sounds overpowered) & more fun, because there is no HD-based enslave atm. I shudder to imagine the aptitude nerfs that could be necessitated by buffing Alive vampires this way. ...

I think giving bloodless an additional -10% HP penalty is maybe a quick solution to balance it against Alive. Personally, I'll use bloodless even if it changes. Even if you give a bat form to an alive, that's the same thing. I think need more attractive options to choose alive. For example, It turn...

Rast wrote:
Vanguardan wrote:Both forms should have normal regeneration.

Thank you.
why not move batform to Alive? I mean, bats have blood.

Batform should be its own state.

Sorry, bad wording. I meant, batform should be an *ability for Alive vampires*, for the reasons I listed above.

-I agree that swapping forms just to regenerate is tedious. Both forms should have normal regeneration. -10%HP cost to transform is worth exploring as an alternative to 5 turn cost. This synergizes with the final suggestion below: -If the problem is that Alive isn’t as good as Bloodless, why not mov...

Yeah, they're really good with ranged attacks, especially with oka. As for slowing down in the end game, I don't think that's so. Skills at 27 eat up so many points, and instead having them at 16 across the board makes them incredible tank mages. I'm trying to figure out what's the best god for the...

What if Blink was just replaced with Blink Close? Maybe decrease their fire immunity to resistance (frost imps aren’t immune to cold) so FE starts aren’t useless against it while it stays close to you.

EDIT: lol, phloomp beat me by 3 minutes.

It seems like No Regen (outside of Sprucery’s solution) is just a hard concept to work around without god help, since that’s the only way to have constant access to healing. What if DD regenerated as normal, but had a small chance of permanently losing a point of max HP when they take a hit? Maybe i...

Hmm... What if instead of just summon forest, Fedhas was more of a Druid-esque god? For example, you gain nature-based abilities as you level up. Summoning/awakening a forest is only one of those. I like this. Would definitely play a tactical god in this vein. Also of note is that with these change...

-Acid fog is definitely too strong. -Calcifying Dust has potential, but it doesn't fit with the Earth school very well, and might be too strong. If it's too strong, you can balance it by changing the spell level. If it's only Acid fog following you, I think it'd still be less useful than Freezing C...

I disagree. I don't know exactly how chaos cloud effect and chaos weapon effects differ, but if the probabilities are similar there's only about a 5% chance for a negative effect like haste/berserk/invis/healing. That's why I picked chaos clouds, actually, because the chance for you to have to reth...

As for my own idea(s): 1. Steps of Chaos, Level 5(6?) Charms/Conjuration. For a short duration, summons clouds of seething chaos behind you as you walk (i.e. on the tile you step off of). Probably lasts 2-3 turns at lower power, scaling up to 6-8 at max power. Xom would appreciate the use of this s...

As for my own idea(s): 1. Steps of Chaos, Level 5(6?) Charms/Conjuration. For a short duration, summons clouds of seething chaos behind you as you walk (i.e. on the tile you step off of). Probably lasts 2-3 turns at lower power, scaling up to 6-8 at max power. Xom would appreciate the use of this sp...

Shroud of Force(Conjuration/Charm/Translocation) Channeling magic. If you attack the enemy of next tile, or enemy attack the you, fire Force Lance at the that tile. Blizzard(Ice/Hex) Ice blast in player 5x5. The enemies who are hit by this attack are slowed down. I like these two, particularly the ...

Ash and Dith are both good for stabbers. Lugonu doesn’t specifically synergize with that playstyle (Banish is a single target MR check just like all your hexes), but provides a good panic button. If you can handle Elf/Depths monsters you can abandon Oka. As a spriggan if you can flee and kite the su...

Quickblade is indeed better, but I disagree with saying chaos dagger is bad- I think it’s fantastic as a spriggan. Because you’re so fast, if you berserk or haste something, you can just run away, and turning something invisible has no effect. Since other chaos effects include *irresistible* petrify...

This also helps differentiate from rN, where 3 pips renders you *actually* immune rather than mostly. To compensate for removal of the third pip I’d recommend that the damage reduction be changed to 50%/75% for +/++, just to make the numbers cleaner. EDIT: or 33%/66% to bring it in line with other r...

Congrats on your first win! And I gotta say, going with Qaz as a Formicid was really gutsy, since you lose teleporting as a go-to escape option with NOISE: THE GOD. Abyss is nasty for sure but doable, the main thing you need besides good tactics is stealth and good methods of regen/MPregen so that y...

I didn’t know bots could necro threads this badly. I thought all they did was make new topics.

This was one of the most fun runs I've ever had, which is saying a lot. I started as Ar, intending to rely on shortblades+Uskayaw for damage, with ranged support via evos and throwables. I found Dithmenos on D:2, but after pondering it for a minute, I left the altar, hoping for Usk later on instead ...

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I think the reason there aren’t more is because corrosion against monsters is REALLY strong (remember acid wand charges are some of the rarest too).

I cleared D:1 which was pretty tame. I then went down the stairs to D:2 and immediately took 120 damage from that ring-of-humans V:5-esque vault. 10/10 would play again. :lol:

Tough choice. PDS is an improvement over QDS protection-wise since it’s enchantable and already at +5. However, it has quite a bit higher encumbrance than QDS. Make sure it doesn’t impact your spell failures too much. Having one pip of rN is important in Zot (Shadow Dragon, cursed toe, etc.) Switchi...

Yes, do Abyss. You have no rN+ at all, which means that any Death Mages (Elf) or Shadow Dragons (V:5) will DESTROY your skills with drain. No sInv is less of a problem, but it can still kill you if you’re not careful. By contrast, the only dangerous negative energy thing you’ll see in Abyss, besides...

Apparently that wasn’t the first reference. I am very pleased. https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1895

I’ve also been reading QC all week.

The earliest Fire Storm I've ever seen (XL 14, Orc:2). Also kind of funny that I scored a Pan Lord on the same floor as the Pan Orc vault.

Oh crap, it's Grinder, I need to head downstairs now. Oh look, it's Ijyb. Well, let me just Conjure Flame and I can get away down this hallway... Never mind, it's a wand of acid. Dead in 2 turns with no chance to escape. It's D:4 so no helpful potions, scrolls or anything I could panic with. Definit...

Okay it’s a lame pun I know. But still.

First, can we take a sec to appreciate the irony of the +10 GDS of Brilliance preventing you from casting spells? More seriously, I would check and see how badly wearing it sets you back spell-wise. You have pretty high int, and if you start pumping strength and armor skill you might be able to go h...

The gist of his armor advice is this: every type of armor has a “base armor value.” The higher this is, the more AC it gives you for your Armor skill (and yours is very high). This is good on a melee brute like yourself. Every type of armor also has an “encumbrance rating.” The lower this is, the ea...

Prior to this char, I had never used any level 9 spells. So, after 9 wins, I figured it was time for another blaster-caster. Once I collected my S runes and the Silver rune, I cleared Zot and decided to go whole hog, 15 runes, for the sake of the 10th win accomplishment. Unfortunately, I was low on ...

I rolled a DgWn that started with the poison book. He died on D:3. Guess whose ghost shows up on in a later DEFE run? Yep. OTR, Sting and Vapors. I was dead within 5 turns after entering LOS, even with a curing potion.

At long last, after splatting countless SpEns in D, plus four exceptional ones in Swamp (Mangrove), Vaults (Xtahua), Vaults (Yaktaurs) and Depths (Frost Giant), I finally ascended with my third caster. Turns out, running for your life at top speed is an easy way to get out of trouble wherever it rea...

Formicids are one of the most interesting species IMO. Killholes on demand can be incredibly useful, and not having to worry about a lot of debuffing nasties is a great trade for no teleporting. This is your standard heavy armor basher, I took Nemelex, despite realizing midway through that a lot of ...

This is kind of a best and worst artifact simultaneously. The resistances and bonuses are nice, but MINUS 8? I've never seen a randart with that bad of an enchantment.

...I find the Book of Annihilations on D:2 as a DECj. I never actually used it until much later in the game, but still!

Yeah, I was leaning towards not buying it anyway since I already have TLA and a normal acid dragon armor. I’m heading into Orc, hopefully I’ll be able to shore up my spell weaknesses or upgrade armor that way.

Is there any correlation between the price of an unidentified randart in a shop, and its quality of characteristics or enchantment? Or is it just the rarity of the base item? I have a scorched acid dragon scales available, but it costs 1350 gold and I don’t want to dump that much if I’m not guarante...

The good news is that you’re alive. The bad news is that the merfolk hasn’t landed an attack yet. Examine it to find the brand on its trident. If it’s something you’re resistant to (elec, freezing, venom), or you can swap to (switching cold ring to fire ring for a flaming trident) you might be safe ...

That’s quite a bind. I think your best bet is to possibly read the fog scroll to block vision on the centaurs. If you’re not dead, drink a curing potion and read teleport. If you’re still not dead, fireball the merfolk. If you escape, back up to lair and ID those scrolls. One of them could have been...

So I've been running several different types of chars^Wu Jian Council, and I really like the movement-based powers, but I can't help but feel like I'm not using all the martial attacks optimally. The wiki isn't much help, and it's definitely wrong about more than one thing. My main question is this:...

Alright, let's build off of this, I think it's becoming a more and more solid proposal for a high-risk high-reward deity. I like continuumg's addition about defacing altars to anger gods. I see a couple different ways this could work: 1. Piety is granted immediately, and the amount gained is proport...

Spider, no question. You’re heavily armored with a shield. DDs don’t need rPois that badly because of damage shaving but I’d pick it up if you have it somewhere. Try and get rid of the deterioration mutation, it’s really nasty. You will need See Invisible for ghost moths. Switch to training only fig...

My mistake, I haven't actually Zigged yet. That's a challenge for another day.

What I really need to get is some caster wins. Casting games are so much fun, but early-midgame is SO brutal.

Does anyone else have anything special they do during ascension/as a victory dance of sorts at the end of the game? As soon as I grab the orb, I play this track on repeat while I book it to D:1. I love the simultaneous tension and excitement. Then, once I escape, I play this one to celebrate while I...

With this run, I have now conquered every main area in the game (with the exception of the Wizlabs I haven't seen). EDIT: and a Zig, as Majang reminded me :lol: The completionist in me is satisfied, and now I can return to 3-5ish rune wins. Obviously this was probably the easiest way I could have do...

Thanks for the advice all. I ditched the armor after spider for a +9 ring mail with rF+++ (no other good armor generated, and too few enchant scrolls to make a base scale/chain worth it with my current armor skill.) I got the two S runes and started V, then got banished (while I had Trog's Hand acti...

Excellent. Grim Reaper Merfolk it is. That leaves me with the only iffy problem of swapping out resistances. Normally I wouldn’t care, but this is a particular fringe case. My current armor is an artifact +1 FDS that also has Regen+, but I also have access to TLA and MR+ leather armor. Most of the t...

So, MfBe. Midgame, in Shoals at the moment. My primary weapons are a +5 halberd of flaming and a +8 antimagic bardiche. I already have polearms at 27. A while back, I also got the +13 Scythe of Curses ( http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Scythe_of_curses ). The Minotaur in Labyrinth was wielding it. Will t...

You should worship Mahkleb as a caster so that you can cast low level conjurations without using MP.

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