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And as far as I know, there's no other spell that does different damage based on the distance to target, so it's unique too! Chain lightning, at least, also scales its damage with distance to target, but this spell is on the other end of the spectrum from sandblast on so many levels, that this one ...

"I prefer" and "zero attraction" do not exactly move a discussion forward. At least they don't help your opinion being heard. Can you add a little bit more substance to it, so that we can engage with your contribution?

Yes, Nebbu's experience is exactly what happened to me here. And it really sucks. I guess I still could have saved myself by reading a scroll of teleportation before grabbing the Orb, because I survived surprisingly long afterwards, given the opposition. But then who knows where this teleport would ...

On the plus side - being able to grab the Orb so quickly gave me the third-level "Graceful" banner of the tournament - something I would have always thought to be out of reach with my playstyle.

mopl wrote:Guess what ? I'm playing Op !!

That find turns you into an extremely powerful glass cannon - I guess you would have hoped for a few more pips of AC in the stash.

Just lost a very promising MiBe (converted to TSO), because my first step down into Z5 brought me two tiles away from the Orb of Zot - is it right to have a teleport trap right on the arriving stairs? Well, I thought I grab the Orb and teleport away, but I only got as far as grabbing the Orb. Then I...

Thanks for this information, which is extremely helpful. It somewhat confirms that accumulating masses of Stealth pips is quite a trap that makes the cloak-and-dagger stabber so untenable as a strategy in dcss. You can have a bloodless Vampire with full Dith piety and insane Dexterity and Stealth ma...

I like that it has a fixed range - you know exactly what tile gets hit and what doesn't - which is very different from many other area-of-effect spells.

n - the ring of Seriskef (left hand) {rF+ rN+ Int+6 Slay+5} (You found it on level 3 of the Dungeon) [ring of intelligence] Int: It affects your intelligence (+6). Slay: It affects your accuracy & damage with ranged weapons and melee (+5). rF: It protects you from fire. rN: It protects you from...

Do stones really qualify as throwing ammunition? They are badly needed for the Sandblast spell, and have been rare enough already in the early game. In any case, so far I can't confirm that abundance of stones has gone down in my games.

Now what does all this mean for shields and magic? Do I also have to go up to 27 to remove all interference with the success rate?

Not that I have an answer. In fact, I'm still struggling to understand what the shield change really does. Can someone elucidate here, not just wrt Nagas?

sanka wrote:Tavern wisdom is that level 9 spells are sometimes useful with Vehumet (in a 3 rune game), but Vehumet is a weak god, so overall they are considered to be on the weak side.

Everything you just said is wrong. (Star-Wars Wisdom)

For them, MP doesn't exist, they spend HP instead of MP, and therefore no game mechanic that involves MP is relevant for them. This is self-evidently false. They do interact with mechanics that involve MP, including but not limited to spellcasting, invocations, Portal Projectile, and gloves of infu...

You are missing the point of Dj as a species: For them, MP doesn't exist, they spend HP instead of MP, and therefore no game mechanic that involves MP is relevant for them. That is how they are designed and defined. Your suggestion would certainly make playing a Dj easier, but it would completely ov...

What's wrong with hailstorm? It is actually quite powerful, particularly if you have it together with IMB, which you will when you start out as a conjurer.

blueeyedlion wrote:It's not realistic

That in itself wouldn't be a valid argument in a game that features flying pigs, among other things.

You are comparing apples with oranges. Sticky flame applies damage over time, whereas airstrike applies all damage in one not-so-fell swoop, depending on the dungeon layout. There is no way to come up with a formula for all level-four spells that uniformly applies the same damage, because these spel...

There is no connection whatsoever between optimal play and re-start. By re-starting each game that doesn't go as you expect, you lose. You pile a big load of manure over your win-rate. That says it all.

Now what, precisely, is your point?

I understand that it is frustrating to get a character up to the end game to then find out that it is not suitable for clearing out the new hells - particularly if it was a character that was able to do so before. And it even pains me to hear that Cheibriados no longer seems to be a god that makes i...

Definitely learn Passwall. It is currently at 14%, just based on your SC skill, and it will get you through a single layer of wall, which may be just enough to get you out of trouble. If you train earth and transmutations for just one or two levels each, it will be totally reliable and even more pot...

Capacitive Coupling doesn't take longer than two or three turns, which makes it excellent against single fast-moving opponents. But it is entirely useless against summoners, as you are more likely to hit that little demon next to you instead of the dread lich that called it.

To be more precise, Spellcasting affects failure rate 1/4 as much as the average of the spell schools; so for a single school spell, train Spellcasting if it costs 1/4 as much as the school; a double-school spell, 1/2 as much. (If your only priority is to get that spell online, that is.) Right. But...

I think you can increase your success rate for CL quickly by adding a few levels of Spellcasting, where you are still very low, and where adding levels is currently much cheaper than adding the spell schools.

I had this terribly strong Ghoul Fighter of Okawaru, who was steamrolling the game so far (after stabilizing during the first few levels). I made it to U1 and felt strong enough to enter the Vestibule of Hell. No problem there - I had a potion of attraction, and that kept Geryon in the range of my a...

There are a few exceptions to this, for example the demonic-guardian mutation.

Almost all damage spells are inhibited by summons and other allies. A damage-caster therefore has very little use for allies, as they tend to be in the way of things.

Bozobub wrote:Hats and amulets make *two* exceptions, actually.

Last time I checked, amulets qualified as jewellery.

Scarves are absorbent and would fatally dry out an octopode through their semi porous skin. Hats, with less material and leather bands don’t share this flaw. So in other words, you admit there's no *real* reason not to allow this. Gotcha. That's a misrepresentation of what Ebering said. The "r...

I knew there would be a good reason.

Press 'a'. That only works when the ring is on a finger.

Clear case: Siegurt's experience is unquestionably coincidence, whereas OP's and Sprucery's is caused by dark and sinister forces trying to take control of the game in the name of Eternal Frost.

If you don't want to face them all at once it is usually better to throw stones at them.

Aren't you all whitewashing the glorious past here? A pack of wights encountered in a tight corner could drain your skills in no time at all, and quite early in the game at that. For a spellcaster that would mean to not be able to cast any spells, or only level 1 spells without power. Usually, that ...

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I don't understand you. Nebukadnezar did not beat the Hells in one go with his Ignis gargoyle, and he complained about a lot of tedium. So the new system is punishing him/her for doing something that shouldn't be done: enter the hells with a character that doesn't belong there. The very fact that th...

Fair enough - I wouldn't be against your proposed changes. Nebbu would still try to go in there with Fedhas or Ignis and beat everything to death with an unenchanted club, because he can. This is the problem you don't see: people like Nebbu are so good at the game that they can try the most outrageo...

I agree. Before the change, drain was for me one of the most-feared effects, one that could kill me because I ended up without the ability to win a non-trivial fight. I'm glad that we went away from that. But with the new drain, I don't even wear rN+ equipment any more, except as a preparation again...

@Sanka: I don't doubt that Nebbu knows what s/he is doing. But whoever enters the Hells with a weak character and then finds that the place can only be beaten by grindy behaviour gets what they deserve. I think the point of the hells is that it is a place that you don't need or want to enter with ju...

You enter the Hells with Ignis as your god and complain that it was a bad experience? What exactly is your point?

It took me until now to get my first character into the new hells, a Draconian Conjurer of Vehumet. Either it's this background, or some tweaks made to the reformed hells in between, but I can't confirm the bad experiences of those writing before me. https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/Majang/morgue-...

How about "Sacrifice Loyalty" or "Sacrifice Leadership", with "No being of any kind will fight for you" as the description? Not quite enough. Not only will they not fight for you, they will fight against you. I'd suggest "Sacrifice Allies" with "all bein...

Thanks! Just as well that I was killed before I could buy this.

I'm just running, sorry, walking a Gnoll under Comrade Chei in version 0.28-a0-167-g7eff39e849. In Orc 1 I found a shop with this beauty on offer: ms%20of%20speed.jpg Nice weapon, indeed. But it doesn't come in red colour, and the description does not have a warning that Cheibriados would not approv...

There should have been a warning message to stop you from doing that. Did you ignore it?

Dear advil, thanks for your help! Your information helped me to solve the problem. I had also tried these numbers you gave me, because I found them in my 0.26 macro file, but they didn't work. Until you now mentioned positive numbers, which alerted me to the fact that these numbers need to be entere...

Related to that, I'm now playing 0.27 on underhound, and I cannot set the page-up and page-down keys for a macro. I need these for direction keys for my German Thinkpad keyboard that does not have a number pad. When I try to set a key value, say for the page-up key (33) it uses the exclamation mark ...

There's no such thing as a promising mid-level spriggan. There are just mid-level spriggans that haven't died yet.

A Spriggan starts with STR 4 and does armor at -3. Is it worth trying to get to the point of using shadowdragon armor or anything other than steam? I wouldn't. Although you need to bring STR up somewhat anyway to be prepared against stat zero, shadowdragon armor is all in all too cumbersome for a s...

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