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I'd train a ton of dodge. Dodge is the lifeblood of any octopode. I follow the mikee formula for earlygame training and tend to get 7ish fighting and 20~ EV by lair (while also investing in anything you find that will boost your survivability) From looking at your morgue, this is the stuff that I'd ...

I'm not sure if no one else has really noticed up until now, but it is painfully obvious on any UC-using character of Dith that shadow mimic is pretty useless. If it does actually do something, then its effect is completely minuscule compared to shadow mimic with bolt spells or melee weapons. I won ...

More consumables on start for all backgrounds = easier game = boredom This is not a very good idea imo, DCSS should be moving towards adding more difficulty than away from it. Although, I can understand the intent. A lot of earlygame situations are just solved by running away, not engaging, or pilla...

I think HuWn is fine imo, I personally won it and had a very easy start (hand crossbow + tele scroll), but it should be more or less fine even with a crappy start. Hu isn't exactly Mu or Fe.

The game should be difficult and non-tedious, I don't see why 'farming' being removed is a bad thing.

Difficulty is not a bad thing, the player should feel challenged, so why give them the option of blunting that challenge in areas that are ,ostensibly, the hardest in the game?

Claws / Aux bite attack would be pretty negligible in terms of increasing overall species strength unless it's something like Claws 3 or a branded bite.

I'm always happy to see people messing around with the crawl codebase.

I'll be sure to playtest this and tell you what I think.

I think the most elegant solution is just letting small species use the same weapons as medium species. It's just a crappy flavour-based mechanic in the first place, and nothing would really be lost if small species could use all weapons normally.

Hellcrawl is now playable on this webserver : https://x-crawl.de/

It is based in Germany, so any Europe-based players who want to play hellcrawl online with low latency may find it amicable.

There's been quite a few updates, they can be found here : https://github.com/Vajrapani/X-Crawl The biggest update, however, is the modification of all upstairs and downstairs into their respective hatches (except on D:1 and branch stairs) Hopefully it leads to a spike in difficulty, and differentia...

Octopode isn't as hard as you think, you can easily win one without spells or much AC.

Just this specific interaction with hornets doesn't feel feel 'intended'. (i.e. are hornets made to be a potential game-ender for low AC characters, or is this an undesirable emergent characteristic? )

I can confirm, I play primarily Octopodes and hornets are basically satan until you have statue form or something similiar. Of course, they have weaknesses and are hexable/easy to kill from range, but hornets remain an existential threat in melee for the entire game, unlike high AC characters which ...

I think either this solution, of changing the base type, or making the rings give a much more substantial slaying bonus, such as +6 or more, would make the trident a lot more attractive. Another solution would just make the Octopus King trident akin to Wyrmbane (i.e. low base damage type with a ton ...

I'd go with Jewellery. A shield is good enough to use for a while, and Op usually have a ton of enchant armour scrolls so it'll be easy to make it into a max enchanted one, so armour is out of the question for me. It's also possible to get a hat/extremely good artifact shield, but I think the better...

Getting abyssed on lair:6 after autoexploring into a Zot trap. (It was also a streak game, so I was pretty pissed, but I survived.) zot trap.png Getting nearly 2-3 shotted by a player ghost with LCS and Shatter. I didn't examine his spell list properly because I forgot the new UI could scroll, and d...

This thread is a year old, but I have to say that characterising confusion & paralysis needles as 'bad wands' is pretty uncharitable. There's plenty of monsters with high MR (and lowish HD) that can be confused/paralysed with a needle, like high-level elves for example, but not with a wand. Do t...

Seems like this would make faded altars basically become 'flip a coin to see if you get lugonu or jiyva' once you've seen temple and the early game.

I may have my differences with the devs or whatever, but good job on hosting the tournament. It re-ignited my interest in crawl. (Also, my clan got #1, so that's a plus) maybe others wanna show their favourite tournament game too? :) My favourite tourny game? I guess this one : https://crawl.xtahua....

The save game issue is pretty weird, I've tried loading my saved games on a current game and starting a new game and it seems to work fine. Hmm.

Hellcrawl is likely to be hosted on the X-crawl server at some point.

Yes, the artifact will always be something you can equip.

Woops, fixed

X-crawl is DCSS fork developed on the Xtahua server discord in the 'forktalk' and 'fork-vote-channel' channels: https://discord.gg/Z3VGjCZ This is the repository on GitHub : https://github.com/Vajrapani/X-Crawl X-crawl is playable on CPO (https://crawl.project357.org) and and on our standalone serve...

Aptitude spread and modifiers looks good. Although maybe it should have a few standout apts like:

+1 fighting
+0 UC

Hello, welcome to week 4 of Scrub league! Iron - Gold - Silver challenge = Get the Iron rune, Silver rune and golden rune of Zot in that order and win. BASELINE CONDUCT: - You may not enter Lair or Orc - You may not enter Pandemonium - You may not enter Abyss (Unless you were banished, and quickly ...

Hello, welcome to week 5 of Scrub League. BASELINE CONDUCT: - Play an Octopode Wanderer TIPS: - This is a good guide on the tactical basics required to win an OpWn : http://www.ultraviolent4.com/characters/opwn.html Post qualifying morgues and I'll give out points accordingly. [ SCORES ] ===========...

Maybe it could go on Kobold, or something? That species is fairly bland and doesn't have HO's amazing aptitudes either.

First of all, I would take off that rC- ring, or at least try to mitigate it with an rC+ ring and/or replace the rN+ ring with an rF+ ring. Vaults tends to have monsters that regularly do fire and cold damage, and rC- and no rF+ can be quite dangerous. You can technically just ring swap to a ring wi...

I'd say any low AC species like Octopodes and Felid, as they require you to fundamentally up your tactical game if you want to win consistently. Your positioning needs to be completely on point to even have a chance to win, and you need to be prepared to haul ass and run away at any moment. Also, ce...

Hello, welcome to week 4 of Scrub league! Iron - Gold - Silver challenge = Get the Iron rune, Silver rune and golden rune of Zot in that order and win. BASELINE CONDUCT: - You may not enter Lair or Orc - You may not enter Pandemonium - You may not enter Abyss (Unless you were banished, and quickly e...

35 pts, it is, could have been alot more with a win, but I admire the tenacity

So far, I tried to get the first try + 0 defence points, but ended horribly around 2 runes. I accidentally went down the wrong staircase, so I blinked to the closest one to avoid getting hit by all the stuff I was surrounded by. A nymph blocked that off, so I blinked yet again to the hatch and then ...

There's no set release date, and the main changes are whatever the main the changes are in the crawl repository: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commits/master Currently we have (From January till now): - Spell Library - LRD doesn't destroy walls - Swamp worms and Iron giants have the 'Harpoon Shot' ...

I liked the 'abyssal' species pitch, but it seems a bit weird for a species not related to Lugonu in any special way. So, I made this alternative species pitch that these mechanics could possibly go on: Aion "Aion" , "Aionic" The Aion are a group of timeless beings who were viole...

Hi, welcome to week 3 of Scrub League. (I will still be accepting MiMo challenge morgues) Deep elves are a species known for their fragility, but have you ever played a deep elf with minimal defensive skill training? BASELINE CONDUCT: - You may not train Fighting/Armour/Dodging/Shields above 10 for ...

As for card stacking, I tried to make them stack like wands when I was trying my hand at re-working Nemelex. The main problems were that the top deck's tier took precedence over that type (e.g. If you had a legendary deck of destruction, all decks of destruction picked up would be a legendary deck) ...

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From the pull request description it says this :

Code:: I've put this system on the ogre species for now, but I think it would work OK on trolls or a new species. I hope someone (gammafunk) will try it out.

So, it seems like Ogre is just a placeholder species for this mechanic.

Scores updated, once again.

Congratulations, in particular, to stickyfingers for his retroactive SpBe run that abandoned Trog on D:1 and won. And also to Leszcyznek for his amazing no-potion + no-throwing/evokes MiMo run.

That was an amazing run, stickyfingers. Good Job!

That's 265 pts then!

Also, updated scores in this thread + reddit thread.

Hopefully on time. First time playing spriggan http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/WindshieldViper/morgue-WindshieldViper-20180530-123242.txt Abandoning before 2nd rune: https://orig00.deviantart.net/7425/f/2018/149/6/7/dcss_spbe_to_lair_by_phenoca-dccquc4.png Surviving Trog's wrath... https://o...

Won MiMo conduct with baseline conduct + No throwing/Evo + No spells!

Yes, that is correct.

MiMo = Minotaur Monk(Atheist + Unarmed Combat + No Body Armour baseline conducts) [ SCORES ] ================================= stickyfingers = 635 pts Leszczynek = 465 pts ShadedKnight = 310 pts NormalPerson7 = 255 pts Vajrapani = 200 pts Malevolent = 200 pts DarkwingDuck = 200 pts mibe420 = 195 pt...

Looks like you've achieved the highest points possible from challenge, mibe! Impressive.

Also, I'll update the rules to fix that loophole, thanks.

Won that game! That's 65 points for me

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Nah, you can take as many attempts as needed.

My current SpBe, got 2 runes and done vaults and elf. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22-a0-425-g89d60a1 (webtiles) character file. Vajrapani the Imperceptible (Spriggan Berserker) Turns: 58113, Time: 04:08:05 Health: 114/114 AC: 16 Str: 16 XL: 21 Next: 42% Magic: 33/33 EV: 39 Int: 14 God: Trog [...

SpBe = Spriggan Berserker [ SCORES ] ================================= stickyfinger = 265 pts mibe420 = 195 pts Leszczynek = 195 pts ebering = 195 pts cjo = 195 pts WindshieldViper = 195 pts Malevolent = 165 pts DarkwingDuck = 165 pts ShadedKnight = 165 pts biasface = 95 pts Mekire = 65 pts Vajrapa...

Fixed it, the species was called "Duskwalker" but it's enum was 'SP_DUSK_WALKER', so it needed to be called "Dusk Walker" (with a space) for the XP,HP,MP,MR modifiers to be recognised.

I made a new species called 'Duskwalker' and I always get this error message after compilation (The species works fine, just that the text files with the aptitudes don't generate properly : dusk walker error 1.png This is what is causing the error (Something related to the XP, HP, MP, MR modifiers i...

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