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Not a suggestion, just a question, why do we have ring of fire and ice, and not ring of every spell school ?
Why no staff of transmutation or translocation either ?

I actually don't think we would need them, but I am just curious about the original reason.

I don't know where this conversion is going but I feel a bit uneasy with the idea that mutation should not be "clearable" at all. It seems that one goal of the game was not to permanently handicap your character: permanent corrosion has been removed, drain, stat degeneration or rot can be ...

chequers wrote:That's exactly the point. The current system makes malmutation a non-issue, since it's essentially free to fix bad mutations.

Surely there is a middle ground between stoping abuse on mutation roulette and having to finish the game as an avatar shub niggurath. My vote would go on duvessa's proposal.

After testing, my proposed change didn't really change anything. Here's something which does: !mutation potion removes 1-2 random mutations, adds 2-3 random mutations, and adds one bad mutation You're still quite likely to get a good mutation, but it's no longer guaranteed. The reduced mutation cle...

I'd prefer you didn't, since I don't want to update it in two places and I'd also rather not have to worry about people editing it to include more bad advice/incorrect information. I can understand, I will try to find a relevant caster guide and link to the thread. I'll probably update a few spells...

So this isn't 100% complete; it's missing exact information for some things on some spells, and might even be missing a couple of spells, but I'm posting it now because almost all the important parts are done. This is a guide to player spells only, monster spells are not covered and I don't plan to...

In ADOM, when monster punches you, it has a chance that it will "punch through your armor", and ignore your protection value. Some monsters are always punching through your armor. Why won't implement same system here? I don't know how adom works, but in crawl AC is a roll, I am not sure w...

Will the enclave includes some risk of random spawn, being teleported around ?

(At least that would make the conversion more thrilling)

Given that repeatable spell being cast like Stoneskin have been removed to make the game less repetitive, I guess Ozo's is somewhere next on that list..

I know how to use Github, I have even checked Vault file a few times. (Like the Crypt:3 layout the first time I went there) But if you don't know exactly what to look for this is not exactly easy either and time consuming. As a result I don't really bother now. This is probably a non issue in the gr...

It actually makes more sense that spell would be "unlocked" a bit like the identification of items, rather than having to move around a stack of book, or make a stash of book. I often wonder what would be my success rate and power for such and such spell so I end up making frequent and rat...

As a relatively new player, let me give you a quick feedback on Berserker. As any new player, I read some guides on how Berserker where the easiest background. At the very beginning, I tried to win with a MiBe multiple times but I could not. Now that have a bit more experience, I can see why. Going ...

Wait, I thought that only random Mut gave you a small percent (6%?) increase of rMut.

You are telling me that BeneMut also protects from further Mutation ?

As someone who tried extended for the first time recently : * Pandemonium is bad because when you change level you can land in a bad situation with no way to go back, this is a one way trip, but once you have "landed" so to speak, it is only a level full of demons with one big bad Panlord ...

Speaking of scrolls of teleportation, these things are lifesavers. When you first start playing, you might find yourself thinking the only worthwhile emergency consumables are healing and blinking, but teleportation is really good, and much more abundant than blinking. The trick is you have to know...

* a yellow monster, be really cautious, you might need some help : a potion, a scroll, a wand or a god ability (like berserk) I'm not the best player by far but I'm sure that the majority of monsters you will be fighting will be yellow so wouldn't it be best to say only use valuable items like poti...

Note that you don't have to kill every monster. There's plenty of exp in the game. It's perfectly fine to run away from something dangerous. Especially some uniques and player ghosts fall into this category. Early game ogres with giant clubs as well. If you play online with tile, * a red monster, j...

Sorry to derail the thread, but would it make sense if flying cancelled the effect of leda's liquefaction ? I understand it as the ground getting unstable. It would be nice for Gargoyle and Tengu, and at the same time reduces the efficiency of the spell against flying monsters ? Kinda the opposite o...

Seems like a missed opoortunity then. Thanks for telling me.

Sharing damage scared me, but now that l read the description, the cloned weapon would also have dealt holy damage ?

This is was my first foray in extended game. Some highlights : - I probably only survived early dungeon because of a very nice early armor find : 4656 | D:3 | Identified the +8 ring mail of Winter {*Drain rN++ Str+4} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) - Skald book is kinda meh : I chose Skald ...

Instead of 'arrow keys', I use the vi keys (i.e. "hjklyubn"), optionally with Shift to "keep moving like 'o' but only in one direction". Ah yes actually I am using the vi key as well. Another point is to use Ctrl+G to move quickly between level. Do not hesitate to use explore mo...

I am not a good player, but I tend to always use 'o' when it is safe enough, 'arrows' otherwise. The advantage of using arrow or rather "shift+arrow" is that it allows you to explore, in concentric circles around the upstairs, so it is easier to escape. Using 'o' you can find yourself at t...

I have my first character in Pandemonium and it is going quite well thanks to Zin. Thinking about my next char or the overall extended strategy it seems to me the most obvious one are . 1. Using a non-evil race : worship Zin/TSO who will give plenty of help against Demons. (you can even easily swap ...

A way to understand it is that the Regeneration spell increase by 100% your base regen that is 0 when bloodless, adding 100% of 0, it is still 0.

Be also careful that sublimation of blood is also limited, you must be at least full to use it IIRC.

I am not in favor of Crafting, I have never seen a system that was not very tedious, or very grindy. It is often based on collecting a huge amount of junk and is a time waster.

(And it is often implemented to artificially extend the game or to encourage micro transaction)

That wiki page is confusing, it provides 2 examples when monster has max damage higher than your AC but no examples when lower. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/actor.cc#L399 Thanks for pointing out the actual source code. Effectively , gdr is always multiplied to max_dam...

Damages are a roll, so I believe an Iguana can do 1-15 raw damage if it hits, the damage you actually take is "monster damage - AC roll".

Oh, well that's an important piece of information I missed, dang. Anyone know about monster damage as well, would Gastronok just roll a d40, for instance? Additionally Armour have a guaranteed damage reduction that will increase the minimum value the range of your AC roll. If you have a GDR of 50% ...

Then was I overestimating how much melee damage 8 Str provides? Is it anywhere close to 1/4 of my damage given that 8 was over a quarter of my total Str? I think there are diminishing return for attribute increase. http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Weapon_damage That page claim that above 11, the damage ...

I am really impressed that you managed to do a successful 15-runs 2 weeks after starting playing.

What previous roguelike experience do you have ?

I find ghouls very powerful. For the early game you have poison resistance, so you don't die to an adder, early bee or black mamba. Additionally with high strength, you can easily escape constriction, so snake pits are quite easy (and you can eat nagas corpses too!) For the late game you have tormen...

First Victory Post ! I started playing in December, I thought it would have been quicker to win having played Nethack before (and serial ascend there). However, it seems the difficulty ramps up a little better in DCSS. In Nethack once you have your ascension kit you are almost certain to win, DCSS i...

You can probably finish Lair with Petrify + LRD, you can use LRD on petrifed monsters, (except maybe for things who have a very high MR like death yak). So maybe focusing on conjuration + earth for the time being would be enough. I suspect you might have used some automatic training, move to manual ...

You must find the entrance to Lair between Dungeon level 8 and 11. It is easier than Orc, and you should be able to gain a few xp level here. Do not enter Elven Hall at any cost now. It might be too dangerous to finish Orc now, but if you manage it more power to you, you might find a few good items ...

I find the second one more menacing.

The first one is a bit static and could make you think the giant will not move.

Is there a reason to do V:5 and Zot 1:5 after Hell ? Is it to use some XP to recover some drained attribute ?

I would think believe that the Hell level would be far worse in terms of difficulty. (But at that stage a few XP are not dramatic in term of character power)

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Auxiliary_attack

If you have Hooves3 according to the wiki you can't wear boots. Kick attack can only prevented by wearing boots(if you can) so you can wear a buckler.

I am not sure it is up to date :

But here is a detail of the calculation of Encumbrance effects .

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Encumbrance_rating

Note the graph at the bottom of the page, that gives you a feeling to the relation between strength and malus for different armours.

Lair is definitely possible with just the book of minor magic. Conjure flame is really strong and pretty much all tough enemies in lair walk right into it. That includes spiny frogs, black mambas and hydras. It does require some experience in how monsters move to make it work well. I'd recommend sp...

I would say is heavily dependent of your character strength, I played a Ghoul who had a strength around 20-25, I was able to cast Death Channel and Simulacrum with a failure around a few percent with Pearl Dragon Armor or Fire dragon armorc (Encumbrance at 11 IIRC)

Some monsters have draining attack.

You can avoid it by wearing a ring of sustain attribute.

Your stats will revert to normal as you experience by killing monsters. However with all stats at zero you are severly handicapped and I am not sure you can make it.

Thanks for all the good advices, I think I'll try a Draconian Wizard next, it should be a bit more easy to survive.

chequers wrote:Is Geryon a demon?

This is just getting bogged in irrelevant minutae. I created a pull request to make it more obvious which spells are affected by silence:

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/269

I thought that anti magic also worked on priests, but it seems it is not.

Sar wrote:Try melee?

I was tyring with a DE and focusing almost exclusively on Spellcasting + spell scholl + dodge/figthing around lvl 5.

But I might actually try to level up a weapon (+ maybe stealth) earlier.

I find the book of minor magic really appealing with blink, rmsk, and conjure flame. However after a few tries, it seems I hit a ceiling around XP 10/ Dungeon:10 if I don't find a really good book by then. I have a hard time to kill things. Can you do the start of Lair with only the book of minor ma...

Once again Death by Hubris. Things were going smoothly, I had 2 runes, I managed to kill Mennas and Mara, I had finished Dephts/Crypt/Elf3. I dabbled in Tomb, and decided that maybe with Torment resistance and a source to torment I could kill TRJ easily. I tormented it twice, then used a scroll of i...

As a new player myself, I also recommend to read the wiki in depth. It is generally a bit look down on the forum because the information are sometimes out of date and in other places wrong. But some information is better than no information.

I am also using in-game annotation (through `!` and Ctrl-O)

Stuff like :
L8 : Need to finish the vault

that I erase once it is done.

Just to add fuel to the fire, if Firestorm can pierce fire resistance, and Glaciate cold resistance, is there any reason why a level 9 "super poison" spell could not pierce (maybe with halved effect) poison resistance ?

Is it because it would be too easy to bypass high AC & EV ?

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