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ajon wrote:I am not sure if there is anything that makes them stand out above other weapons.

Triple swords are stronger than great maces, and that's about it.

MiCK and TrCK are probably the easiest.

As for a MuCK, there's this good old trick for Chaos Knights - leaving Xom for another god.

I'd also consider looking at changes from, say, last 3-5 major releases instead of comparing to some ancient version most of the current playerbase have never seen. Maybe then a dev trend towards removals would be more apparent.

(To be sure, note that a lot more content gets added each release than we cut.) Oh really? It certainly doesn't feel like it. It's only true with gods and probably vaults (not sure about those), monsters stay about even, items and spells are in negatives. Please don't remove decks, just make them s...

arandomperson12 wrote:vaults are too tough

When playing as a spriggan, level 3 Hexes spells, backed by enough spellpower of course, are enough for the majority of things you meet there. Also half of the stuff there doesn't see invisible.

The no amulets rule was coined back when amulets of clarity were still in the game and I'm pretty sure that was the reason. I think the general rule is to have fun with whatever version of this challenge you wish to play, just don't expect to get put in hall of fame if you are too lenient on yourself.

Misc acquirement weights got changed in trunk a few days ago. Changes, Wonders and Defence are gone, instead you get Destruction, War and Escape (so the Nemelex ones), all at weight 4 instead of 2. Link to the commit: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4db263552158fb634bc7760c5c90c95b65f7bdde Gre...

Spriggans are surprisingly decent with arbalests, so you can grab one and play like a centaur of sorts. It's good to have some Str items or level up investment for it though or it will take ages to kill things later on.

I just don't like stabbers and spellcasters, I guess.

Tier 3. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-406-ge21436e (webtiles) character file. 1669722 Leszczynek the Hoplite (level 27, 213/213 HPs) Began as a Halfling Fighter on May 30, 2016. Was the Champion of Hepliaklqana. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on May 31, 2016! The game lasted 04:52:4...

I was supposed to win a Halfling some time anyway, so here's a Tier 1 for now: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-379-ge33ada3 (webtiles) character file. Leszczynek the Carver (Halfling Fighter) Turns: 28360, Time: 01:35:40 Health: 114/114 AC: 31 Str: 29 XL: 16 Next: 86% Magic: 23/23 EV: 21 In...

tabstorm wrote: Currently F lets you throw any item from your inventory, I don't think this has much of a purpose without item destruction.

What about using throwing nets with a ranged weapon?

Removing content doesn't make anything fresh, adding content does. Just saying. Full rotation of lair branches is a neat idea, I'd also like to see some Crypt/Tomb alternative, but that's a lot of work. I'm not sure if making Elf/Crypt not appear at all is a good idea, it is after all an xp leverage...

Don't use the wiki, use this instead: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/bots If you need a quick look at the aptitudes or starting stats, the one thing the link above doesn't provide very well, visit ##crawl IRC channel and use bots. Sounds scary but is tremendously useful and there's almost always ...

You're right, my bad.

I only use : to talk to myself and whine about everything that doesn't go my way in game.

I used to do the thing you do in ADoM, but that was because there's no search function or easy way to see your resistances there.

Power creep.

Besides I'm pretty sure it wouldn't solve the basic problem you're presenting - you'd still run out and you'd still have to use other means of fighting, unless we're talking a lot more starting ammo, which is ridiculous.

The worst part of item identification in Crawl is probably consumable identification. Keeping track of where each potion/scroll in your inventory generated, how many have generated, stacks, which ones were in monsters' inventories, etc. lets you improve your guesses as to which consumable is which....

I just cheesed my way through a labyrinth this way, taking all the loot and still escaping because there was a blind corner close to the stairs. I gained a bit of space with Blink, then managed to pick up 6 items while the minotaur was technically 3-4 squares away from me (he was slowed), just not i...

How good is this spell in Elf? A lot of the annoying little dolts found there use charms (notably archers have repel missiles on by default).

At this point you might just call them Elves since there are no other non-unique elves around. Actually having just Elves, just Dwarves and just Orcs would make more sense than having names that were a necessary distinction in the past but not anymore. If there are problems with lore, just change th...

"Make orb run better instead" is not a reasonable answer, so I request that nobody waste time pretending it is. You make it sound like an opinion established in older times when I wasn't around, would you mind explaining? The first few orb runs I did were pretty exciting so I don't think ...

Tier 3. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-b1-22-ge198996 (webtiles) character file. 1490362 Leszczynek the Victor of a Thousand Battles (level 27, 147/258 HPs) Began as a Hill Orc Venom Mage on May 2, 2016. Was the Champion of Okawaru. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on May 4, 2016! The gam...

Are you jealous you don't get sexy elf dreams of your own?

Trove required a +6 demon blade a - (") an uncursed amulet of dismissal b - (") an uncursed amulet of dismissal c - (") an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit d - (") an uncursed amulet of magic regeneration e - (=) the ring "Amaqahau" {Wiz rElec rF+ Str+8} f - (=) the r...

I find it extremely surprising that tomb always comes up in these 3rd rune discussions. Does anyone actually do this? I do, on Ghouls. Dispel Undead is about the only thing you have to fear there and its users are relatively weak. There's also the Silence/Darkness cheese competent fighters can pull...

As were bolts of penetration but you don't see them in trunk/0.18 anymore.

Let's make this post relatively short. 1. If you aren't playing an ogre/troll, to have a reliable amount of javelins (as tomahawks don't do that much in late) you need to go Okawaru/Trog, pray for Shoals and still end up with insufficient stacks to actually use them as a primary or even a secondary ...

Tier 3. Done on the first try too! Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1811-g3a71842 (webtiles) character file. 1601472 Leszczynek the Ghoulish Ballista (level 27, 231/244 HPs) Began as a Ghoul Hunter on Apr 26, 2016. Was a High Priest of Okawaru. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Apr 27,...

Tier 1, still a chance for oneandwon with this combo. :) Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1805-g8ab820f (webtiles) character file. Leszczynek the Thrower (Ghoul Hunter) Turns: 7383, Time: 00:47:06 Health: 78/78 AC: 9 Str: 19 XL: 10 Next: 16% Magic: 9/9 EV: 11 Int: 6 God: Okawaru [***...] Gol...

Entry required a Necronomicon a - ([) the +2 cloak of the Thief {+Fog Slay-2 SInv Stlth+} b - ([) a +2 hat of magic resistance c - ([) the +3 hat of Noon {rPois rC- Regen+} d - ([) a +2 large shield of protection e - ([) a +3 leather armour of poison resistance f - ([) the +4 leather armour of Impre...

Are enchant scrolls even doing anything for him? Meanwhile a few days ago I tried to mindlessly Shatter through Tomb. It didn't work at all, probably because of the mindless part, thus I failed yet another easy oneandwon combo. Now I'm on the second try but I don't feel like playing Crawl a lot late...

Oh boy, yet another Deep Elf to kill off in an embarassingly bad way. I'm looking forward to it!

@ManMan: you could simply outrun most of them and some of those you couldn't run away from easily you could still immobilize with Hexes; the biggest problem honestly was to remember to not kill them.

Iskenderun was a cat named after a Turkish city or something.

I hope you also removed Felids and Centaurs from the game.

I played a few games of 0.10 and 0.12 recently. Wands of fire/cold were as bad as acid in monsters' hands. The only difference is that you can't actually have a kobold zapping it on D:2 or so now.

No, it's not for me. I managed to avoid Ilsuiw in Shoals:4 and got the second rune, but then I forgot about the challenge again and killed Wiglaf in Vaults. I'll just proceed with the game normally from now on. At least I learned how good Fulminant Prism/Force Lance combo is on a FeCj. EDIT: I event...

I don't think I can pull off avoiding Agnes and Arachne on Spider:2, but I'll try.

EDIT: I actually managed; I'll post the morgue file when I win or die for good. When playing Felids, you learn new things, like that entropy weavers have 4 attacks 17 dmg each.

Tier 1. I forgot about the restriction and killed Azrael on D:13, so that's it for me. It would very likely happen again, so I'm not going to try anymore. Good luck to everyone else though. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1685-g4482fe3 (webtiles) character file. Leszczynek the Destroyer (Fe...

Tier 3, all 6 runes. Haven't won yet, this is before entering Depths. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1677-g2bdad6c (webtiles) character file. Leszczynek the Hand of Fortune (Human Skald) Turns: 96482, Time: 10:08:18 Health: 217/217 AC: 34 Str: 21 XL: 27 Magic: 42/42 EV: 18 Int: 18 God: Nem...

Come on, it's a feature introduced obviously so that you have to try a bit harder if you want to be funny and/or sarcastic.

ring swapping is cancer (...) What is your problem? You can just, you know, not swap them? You don't have to do that. Really. Nobody forces you. You're throwing a fit because what you perceive as the most fun playstyle is not the optimal one. I've seen a few other people rising this same issue for ...

The number of monsters with dangerous electrical attacks has increased significantly recently: Shock serpents in Snake Spark wasps in Spider/other places Spriggan air mages have been around for a while but seem to turn up more frequently and in more/earlier places (swamp, lair) than they once did. ...

This thread makes me think that you guys at times run out of things to post here yet you feel compelled to fill your weekly quota anyway. Without (that much) sarcasm - want to have permanent resistances? Go play ADOM and its corpse hunting minigame. See how interesting it is to have a goal of "...

Well, if that's how it works, then here, have a Tier 1. Sigmund killed on D:4 at XL 5, I hope it's good enough. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1649-g8d9735b (webtiles) character file. Leszczynek the Slasher (Human Skald) Turns: 3560, Time: 00:11:23 Health: 51/66 AC: 23 Str: 15 XL: 6 Next: ...

Tier 1 is supposed to be before entering the Lair, right?

Tiktacy wrote:What are your thoughts on making the default be set to "true"?

My thoughts are "please no".

And I died in Pandemonium after getting 8 runes. Maybe I should've started with Hell instead, it's a bit more predictable. I don't think I'll try the second time; good luck to all others.

Tier 2. So far a very pleasant run, though I'd definitely like to have some more HP. I was thinking about trying to make a conjurer/monk hybrid with a +4 troll leather with +Int, but Oka gifted me the plate I'm wearing now, soon after I found 3 rods and I decided to go the usual o-tab route. Dungeon...

when quaff iding, it pretty obvious what the heal potions are cause they seem to spawn more frequently and you tend to have a stack of them, unlike the bad ones. Not really the case in trunk with potions of degeneration. It's not unusual they're my 1st-3rd highest potion stack after the first few d...

I was going to create my own topic to whine about Labyrinth, but since this is here - is reworking Labyrinth still in plans for 0.18?

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