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Might be cool, but we already have Xom for challenging starts. Crawl doesn't like Zealots, either, it's why the others were removed IIRC. That or Yredemnul was too strong.

dracos369 wrote:
papilio wrote:Flaming/Chilly Deaths are removed now

What? Why?

Something something uninteresting brand related to Tolkien.

ONIchinchin wrote:
Steel Neuron wrote:60% chance of raising the rank of one of your current mutations

That's too high. Make it 40-30-15-15 last 15 is for not getting any.

Why not 40-30-15-15 where it's Increase/Bad/Random/Good with the usual resistances for having so many mutations you can't accept a new one.

I'd like Shoutitist 1 if only for flavor sake. Perhaps give them the first step up of fur? (AC+1)? That might be a little strong, but strong isn't bad.

What if Barachian's -1's and +1's were randomized every in every category, while remaining equal to what they were before? So they automatically get +1 to a defensive skill, -1 to two magical schools, etc? That's a recipe for startscumming even more than Wn is. Okay, assume if Fighting and Spellcas...

This spell could be a good replacement for inner flame, that one spell nobody likes. [citation needed] Inner Flame works on manufactured undead, sticks to snakes, your ancestor, and even that most common and intended of targets: That Random Orc Over There. Clocking in at 3d20 for 3 MP, it's a very ...

Alternatively, give scarves 1AC and put them in the amulet slot so that interesting decision holds true.

No! Name them Frogtaurs!

Jeremiah wrote:No spell is overpowered as long as Trog exists.

Disagree, I feel like no combination of melee and ranged combat can replace the sheer terror that is Summon Horrible Things.

Floodkiller wrote:
amaril wrote:Halflings should get perfect rMut imo, so you at least have the option of doing extended w/o playing the mutation minigame (bar zin)

There's also ghouls and mummies for that.

The penalties for playing mummy is far more than what rMut is worth.

NhorianScum wrote:What if high elves could jump.

They'd still be a Tolkien reference, lol.

FR: Make the only thing that generates in the Abyss new potions of mutation.

Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup has jumped the shark. I for one welcome our new mutagen overlords.

At least Mummy got buffed indirectly.

Honestly Barachian's saving grace is that they're amphibious for me. What if Barachian's -1's and +1's were randomized every in every category, while remaining equal to what they were before? So they automatically get +1 to a defensive skill, -1 to two magical schools, ect? Alternatively; what if Ba...

A) 3d(3 + pow/6). For reference, fireball is 3d((10 + pow/2)/3)... so essentially the same damage, but not elementally resistible. B) No. C) No. D) Same as with other sources of malmutate: player undead take stat damage, monster undead are unaffected. Unfair! As usual, you are always great to have,...

Show this post to your parents and then think about what you did.

Please do not introduce different mechanisms (monster/player) for the same race. Non-PC Gargoyles are mute and immune to negative energy as opposed to resistant and, you know, able to shout. Non-PC Mummies move very slowly. Non-PC Trolls attack with both their claws in addition to having a regular ...

How much damage does it do? Is the damage dependent on the enchantment at all? Does it matter how many enchantments there are? How are undead affected?

I demand numbers!

Merfolk already have a wealth of incentive to dive into the water with interactions (boosted EV, a tail slap, stealth bonus) that make it a tactical boon, in addition to being able to swim already being a good passive. Why on Earth do they become Spriggans when they swim? They gain the ability to fl...

Giving Op more item interaction sounds like a great idea. They aren't Felid, that isn't specifically their gimmick, they could do with more.

They're just total duplicates to other existent spells. I prefer just remove all poison magic schools and extract some useful spells to Hexes. Do we want to make hexes stronger? Gorgondantess: That makes perfect sense. Poison is strong until you meet your first wyvern zombie. They're the only caste...

I agree with Sphara, essentially. Summon Ice Beasts is a stock spell for a long time for IE, but I don't think IE and Su play the same. SIB takes a fairly long time to get castable and Su have other options as well (Lightning Spire is great). I virtually never memorize or cast Summon Demon. Making ...

Forget everything below this, play Hellcrawl.

Are Formicids not supposed to be able to shaft when being damaged. I thought the price of dropping 1-3 levels was enough for them.

EDIT:: It's not as if someone could lure a dangerous enemy upstairs and continuously shaft themselves back down when the going got tough.

HONESTLY these are the sorts of things I'd love to see tested in trunk. I think making Summoners less... whatever they are now with a strong, dangerous summon would be fun.

Rast wrote:I like the idea of giving backgrounds 1x or 2x of various consumables, so I would support this even if Tm was strong.

Making the early game easier would reduce the randomness of the game, which I don't think is wanted.

Why not rework them by combining bad potion effects with good potion effects. Lig has its uses, and Ambrosia would be a No Brainer(TM) if it was strictly good.

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The Human Catastrophy.

What strikes me as odd is that Black probably gives you the most leveled and indeed useful abilities (rElec is difficult to obtain, Flight makes terrain a non-issue and you don't have to mutate for it) while Grey is by far the most shallow of all of these (5AC isn't as much as it seems without GDR b...

Rast wrote:FR: Tavern memes should have more influence on Crawl development

That is EXACTLY how Ogre got -1 to M&F and how Halfling will be removed.

With the recent changes to the game as a whole (namely the removal of Heal Wounds and the removal of rods), Pakellas isn't empowering an already powerful play style so much as offering an alternative way to approach the game, which is in line with some of the other deities of Dungeon Crawl and is we...

You can't refrigerate chunks because it would preserve the flavour of food.

Let the thank roll in.

Shtopit wrote:♪ Let Formicids wield giant weapons if they leave the shield ♫

They'd be better at using them than Ogres, that's for sure.

We'll get that when we get cTele back (which will be soon).

PowerOfKaishin wrote:Blowing through extended as a statuepode has its perks.

Torment immunity is bull. rTorment is cool, but should be limited by either being race specific or obtainable by something with a drawback.

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Crown_of_Eternal_Torment
How does this look to you.

Totaly for capetopodes. I do feel like Mu scales decently in the midgame though provided you focus only the core skills and take Ru/Gozag/Ash/Mak feels about on-par with Hu. Comparing other races to the obscene power spike that is Ds/Na midgame is a tad unfair. Yeah, you're right, it's an unfair co...

Having less HP lowers your regeneration rate. I'd only request that your regeneration rate be based on whatever buffs you have + your maximum HP's regen rate. Losing HP for more speed isn't a good trade. In general, speed is so much more important than HP that experienced players consider Spriggan a...

If they're meant to be a race that gains a lot of power once they survive long enough Every species is already like that iirc More than a Human is the rough gauge I use. Getting eight of the best randart rings in the game is competitive with a full set of unrand gear sometimes. If anything, protect...

Octopodes are an interesting race that came into conception by the same inspired design Troll and Draconian (a restriction with armour slots in exchange for neato abilities). Octopode's lack of slots is alarmingly close to Felid, with hats being the only thing they can keep (along with weapons). If ...

Doesnt wrote:at this point rename them to basajaun or something since they're clearly not the giant club-wielding punks roaming the dungeon

I've been affectionately calling the Ogre Mage (OM) for a while.

Jokes aside, I would like cloak on Octopode. It'd give them access to more early AC and a few more resistances later on. They're almost magikarp tier, please. I love magikarp races.

Wow.
I think point number one alone definitely means a reflavoring is needed, and since flavor isn't a factor in this game I think it's better just to merge some of Beogh's mechanics into Yred to make them a more versatile deity and just axe Orc Jesus.

Sprucery wrote:
TonberryJam wrote:First, you took my favorite fighter race, then you took my favorite archer race.

Well, I'm sure the devs would now like to know: what is your favourite caster race?

Please say Octopode so we can finally rework them. They're so close to being fun.

If Dg could happen upon better random artifacts in lieu with their Demigod nature I would be Hype because my sense of balance is based on Cool, Puns and Jokes.

I like set starts. Really strong items work because once you open these crates, you've already suffered a poor early game. I approve.

I wouldn't mind giving Wanderer a guaranteed +0 dagger, but both of those are a wee bit too strong to be given to an intentionally inconsistent start.

This is such a cool start. I like it on Kobold the most and would play it religiously if implemented.

Stop suggesting they remove more races or else they'll implement more Frogs.

HONESTLY with Frogs being implemented, I'd like to see a race with a mess of actives that're powerful and reliable.

Halflings were a relatively uninteresting species in terms of gameplay, feeling somewhat like Kobold but with weapon specialization like Merfolk.Their theme originates from Tolkien, a source of lore that crawl is trying to borrow less from these days. Their gorgeous hairy feet not withstanding, thi...

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