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I can't count the number of times I have had groups from 3 to 9 pop out of thin air around me. I'll go up a stair to escape and try to move to a stair up and pooff a group shows up. Normally is while I'm close (2-4 tiles) to the stairs I just came up. I'm also under the impression that stuff has be...

Weapons trove on D:15 Price: Storm dragon armour +2 Character: Ogre hunter currently Zot:2 with 4 runes (swamp, snake, slime, silver) Some at least potentially interesting giant clubs... The rest have been not so relevant, but happy just to draw more possible weapons with this run. Whites: Transpare...

You don't have to worry about monsters looting it. They don't do that anymore in Crawl. So technically, you could stash most places... Except for temporary/shifting zones like Abyss and Pan. Floors will spawn some "wandering" reinforcements after being cleared, so you might want to conside...

Amulet of Gumyetu (rF+++, rCorr, Dex +4) Thinking about IDA? Hmm, suppose I could eventually... Although this is an Ogre Hunter, so might eventually go heavier too. I have a Ring of rC at the moment (and a robe rC currently wearing in expectation of Ice Cave, maybe)... ------------------------ Also...

Amulet of Gumyetu (rF+++, rCorr, Dex +4) ... sitting in the open on Lair: 3 The same level contained: A ring of Protection from Fire ... Which I happily found just before locating The Volcano (which gave me Robe of Fire Resistance +2, Hat of Fire Resistance, and Cloak of Fire Resistance, a Greatslin...

That was interesting!

If it's any consolation, I've lost a string of characters to centaurs lately, too. :oops:

I'm rather clueless about vampires too. Have tried it a few times, but not doing very well so far.

Hehe, died delving into D12 for more stuff.

It was a good set of rings, but not that good! :lol:

I figured using Okawaru was probably out, although there were two tempting early altars right in a row. Here we are in Lair (though may not be staying long just yet!) :lol: This gargoyle has enjoyed the benefits of an early Potion of Experience! Happy stuff. Now if I could find another Remove Curse ...

Do you mean the skills must have been less than that number the whole time?

Is using Heroism to go temporarily above those numbers against the idea?

There were no boots in this game until Slime vault (+0) and Zot (running, finally). :o And more bothersome, only one or two Cure Mut potions the whole game... On the other hand, there were 2 drops of quicksilver armor before Zot, one early! And fun with a white Pain hand axe in the mid levels! This ...

As the Wiki says: "mindless monsters, many beasts, or particularly strong monsters" will enter the fire. That's a start. It's great for fighting goliath beetles and even hydrae (if you have enough clouds, or you're really tough yourself to hold the line at the end). Yaks and other mid-stre...

Unless lair is made considerably harder, D:13-15 have little purpose but to extend the lull you experience before entering a rune branch. Unless the experience and loot for those levels is (at least) is going to be relocated somewhere else inside the earlier levels or onto some new branch, I wouldn...

Are any other player species completely immune to Fire or Cold? That sounds rather overpowered to me. Granted the existing player gargoyle has defense against poison, but aren't many strong late-game opponents (and many strong vaults) likely to employ fire at least part-time? At the very least, I'd ...

Nods, those giants are serious cases of "Resistances or else." :roll:

With the caveat that I've only gone far with Centaurs a few times: At the start, work on your melee skill and a bit of Fighting, and before too long get some Armor. I'd probably start with 4-8 points of one melee skill (Unarmed, polearms, or even 2-5 of anything fast that you picked up a decent blue...

The game has quite a few things that seem to "randomly" kill characters, typically in combination (long-term) with quite a few other things like layout, type of drops found, training priorities, and (conspiracy theory?) maybe even rain on weekends while in the Vaults. You've read the descr...

Just imagine having to burn one of your 27 scrolls of teleportation there. But I only have like 14 left! (The rest are in wand charges, then it's getting kinda close I think...) Can say this about anything, though unless it moves super fast... Still not quite sure why it took so long closing that l...

They're one of many things that might be a danger... If you've had a bad enough day with the rest of the neighborhood. I just ran into one in a single space corridor just inside a vault on Depths:3, obvious vault but walled off from the rest of the level (stairs up and down). I came in on a corner s...

Francis wrote:You know who else is cute? Hint: he wears a cute little crown

He's much cuter when Silenced?!

Oh fine, let's talk about chess and go forever then and not about what shortening Orc actually does, or how it works in practice.

Nice diversion there. Or maybe some do want Crawl to just be chess?

It could be a rare mutation: "Orkness." Change official species to Hill Orc for purposes of deity selection only. All other stats and abilities remain the same. ... Sits back with popcorn and watches the marathon quaffing of Mutation potions begin. :lol: PS They are listed as "species...

almost ready to go to Shoals (I had rC++, wanted just a little more EV) I've seen people mention rC and Shoals together before, and I don't get it. Ilsuiw and aquamancers have Throw Icicle, yes, but it does 60% physical damage anyway. Personally, I pay no attention to whether I have rC or not when ...

I have not done this challenge properly (without the consumables)... But it did inspire me to at least try the FoCK! Got an early Maxwell's Armor (+15 platemail, -Tele, -Cast, MR+, rCorr, rElec gifted by Xom on D:3!) and was just having a ball, cleared Snake, training Dodging in anticipation of Shoa...

Trying to play with the original track again: Or if it's easier than retraining various existing orcs, perhaps a new class of Orc Bodyguards (could be called Lieutenants, what have you) would do the trick? The common orcs could still bounce around doing their thing and blink away or swarm the PC ear...

I know this isn't what you were suggesting, but improving the AI of allied Orcs could be an interesting Beogh buff. I probably read too fast, but at first this is what I assumed it would be about... Caster orcs always trying to get into melee ("must blink to monster asap!" Really?) makes ...

It says they never re-submerge? So at least if you pull them out, they won't hide again and you won't have to memorize those patches. I don't really understand why they wouldn't want to hide again (except out of character, to spare players from double jeopardy coming back to the same areas), but any...

You're probably generally aware of it by now, but don't forget to top off your HP and quaff Healing to get your max HP boosted back up. You seem to be missing quite a few at the moment. I often miss small changes like that while zipping along, until I face something big and feel I've dropped to half...

How are you sure they couldn't hear you? Did you map the whole area they came from immediately before? Do you know how far away they were? I believe combat makes noise, too? Hobgoblin shouting definitely means noise. There's also the outside possibility something invisible was around watching you (i...

Or people who would rather have a wider range of situations and more feel of exploration (take some exploration from Pan first - they have plenty?), rather than the same few spaces with more tools to run around in the same smaller box? But I enjoyed the 27 floor dungeon and Encumbrance system. What ...

Hells toss a bunch of random "unhappy host deity effects" at you, including possibly malmutations, so it's rarely recommended to stay there longer than necessary. Pan will not do that, and Pan has more open floors most of the time. However, Pan can possibly keep you wandering around for ag...

Deep dwarves rock with Makhleb. I dunno about Pakellas yet, but would seem like a good candidate too, if you can build up enough MP pool fast enough. (You do need some MP cap, right?) Deep dwarves are really strong against succumbing to Poison status, at least on early/mid levels. (Although some sou...

To me up until now, they have been quite different areas. A weapon of freezing or Bolt of Cold rocks in Lair with all the reptiles; you hardly see a dragon or lizard in Orc at all due to the theme. Anti-magic picks up some steam in Orc against the fairly common wizards and priests, but has only marg...

That is some awesome gear you have, already! I'm not sure if you really need higher Armor skill for what you have (I've sometimes finished 3 runes with less than 20 wearing plate), but maybe someone more experienced will weigh in... Some next steps might be Vestibule of Hell, Abyss, or a bit of Zot ...

That's fine, really. I hope I'm wrong. I haven't seriously played Nethack past a few levels, so maybe bad analogy after all. The reason I said chess was more that I sense the game being moved toward fewer and fewer tiles of territory, so it would seem to become important to pick just the right moves...

And yet hells still have 7 floors each, a trip to get all 5 pan runes still takes >40 floors on average, the abyss is still the abyss, etc. Am I really that strange for finding it completely mind boggling that nothing at all has been done towards shortening a part of the game whose lenght has alway...

like I just said in the other thread: ⋅ remove 18 16 floors from the Hells, such that each is 3 floors long ⋅ remove exit portals and exit-through-the-abyss portals from pan, and cap it at 15 floors (I like the idea that the final floor is always holy pan) ⋅ merge Abys...

Just your basic friendly neighborhood, noisy overarmored Qazite, 3 runes and a smooth-ish escape. 8-) Again, didn't notice a couple malmutations picked up during the rush to exit. This game seemed to have no or almost no scrolls of brand weapon, and took me ages to get the axe of electrocution start...

I haven't actually tried this god yet, but can concur Rod of Shadows has been amazing, at least in the past, at high Evocations power even against Oof's.

(experience derived from 0.15-0.16)

That is a nice armor!

I had a +11 short sword (venom, Dex+3) as well.

Was doing well, but got too ambitious and walked into Volcano - a terribly active one. :roll:

Really should have banished self. I haven't played Lugonu much and forgot I had that...

I can't remember ever purposefully using them on doors, but generally: They really do get distracted by walls. Doors kind of tend to have walls around, so... Not surprising. The rule of thumb for me (when I do rarely play conjurers) is send them into open space, as separated from walls as possible. ...

Dunno how to do the nifty timestamps and such, but just got to Lair myself. loopi the Slicer (Kobold Assassin) Turns: 17020, Time: 02:28:12 ... You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Lugonu. Lugonu is extremely pleased with you. You are completely stuffed. You have visited 3 branches ...

I know it's not instant - you can see it coming. I can't think of many monsters that cause so much generally reliable trouble while being blocked by others, though. Probaby I haven't spent enough time in Pan or Tomb, but these can show up far before then. It's pretty much to melee what a weapon of a...

Two cents to chime in: Entropy weavers are quite annoying. Thematically, they don't make a great deal of sense to me either. How many other monsters have "smite targeted waste physical defenses" on a time bomb clock? Hellfire is one thing, but even they have to aim... Sure I usually aoe or...

Get a weapon for above reasons and because your armor is already quite good. Weapon is the other mainstay slot with potential for constant benefits. It's a bit random with these scrolls, but a really good one can carry you a long way. PS, I have a centaur of Gozag who really wants to buy that scale ...

I could see getting by with the morning star for some time, but pretty soon there should be quite a few opponents with Resist Cold (mainly, the undead in general). There are lots of Enchant Weapon scrolls in that inventory too, so you could try buffing the eveningstar or the demon whip. If there is ...

Maybe not all you're looking for but... I sometimes enjoy turning on a fantasy adventure soundtrack on Youtube while playing (or whatever Crawling style music you might like).

Found a +11 triple crossbow recently (penet, rC neg, Str+3)

Too bad I was playing an Ogre mage... :roll:

Not following Xom by any chance, are you?

:lol:

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