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Hey, is this a randart? I didn't find it on the Wiki list of unrands, but it seems like such a "package deal" that I wondered.

The +8 whip of Dissolution { pain, *Corrode +Inv rElec rN+ }

Carried by a gnoll on D:7

Useless to a kobold, but was curious so fyi:

A +7 glaive of Bankruptcy { holy, rC+ Str-2 Int+7 SInv }

I generally don't play Trunk much so I haven't used it, but... It sounds like it could also help a whole lot with early centaurs and cyclops, and on to yaktaur packs in Vaults. You get the extra EV while approaching or against their first attacks on you, as long as you're not yet attacking them? (De...

I am really liking the new loading screen art!

The slime kitty in particular is awesome. 8-)

Trove on D:14 Ticket: Book of Annihilations (1435 gold in shop) Annihil-trove.jpg Identified: Potion of Experience The amulet “Xigod” {+Rage rF- Str+4 Int+3} +1 eveningstar of Dullness {elec, Dex+2} +2 battleaxe of freezing +5 executioner’s axe of electrocution +3 amulet of reflection Amulet of rage...

Mid-game awesome for a (non-Oka) Gnoll, who can't as easily train bigger stuff near min delay right away anyway.

The +6 scale mail of The Game of Kings { Dex+6 }

The +11 Hand Axe of Untruth { chop rElec MR- Str+4 }

The +9 shortbow of Pinluc { venom Str+6 Dex+3 }

Sometimes banishment is good for you: f - the ring "Huori" (left hand) {rF++ rN+ Slay+6} (You found it on level 3 of the Abyss) ... But when Banishment IS good, she is very, very berry punch smash zing bop good for you. 8-) I do love finding useful stuff in Abyss too, but that about takes...

In shop on D:5 for 1402 gold:

The ring "Zuczarch" {+Blink AC+6 Dex+4}

Now, all I need is Acquirement for the money. :lol:

(continued from above) 91876 | Lair:1 | Found the +4 mace of Variability {chaos} 92167 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt 92487 | Crypt:1 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 259/273 MP: 39/39 92750 | Crypt:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru 92992 | Crypt:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru 93301 | Crypt:1 ...

This one was mostly smooth and fun. 8-) Good string of nice white giant clubs, early quicksilver and then artifact +9 ice dragon scales, lots of resists on clubs and jewelry, and more Mutation potions than I can recall seeing in one game in a long, long, very long time (or is it ever?). Steady suppl...

Just when I thought I was never going to find a rune on Abyss:3

It's great having rElec and rC+++ for situations like these.

(The rune was in the middle tile between all the spires - already apported it just in case! Am so not wandering around to find this vault again.)

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Shtopit wrote:Dying in the abyss after a Zot trap on Shoals:3. I end up in Abyss:4. For having autoexplored a cleared level.

"Cleared" ?

cough cough

Aww, great effort though.

All sorts of things in Zot are terribly bigger when moth-berserked. I've died to so many of those it seems.

You have so much offense that you could probably try Slime. Maybe box in the Royal Jelly in the vault corridors behind its summons, haste and finesse, and hammer it with portal projectile. Can also phantom mirror the jelly, or possibly immolation on the crowd around it. Just be really careful. Slime...

VeryAngryFelid wrote:I would use MR ring by default and wouldn't worry about EV or rN+ that much. After all it's a Ce with good AC, HP and ability to run away easily if needed.

That's probably quite viable too... Just make sure you've cleared out somewhere to run. (Can be a bit tricky in Vault: 5 for a while.)

Yes, slaying affects both melee and ranged weapon combat. That's quite a bit of EV in one ring. So I would keep the EV/Dex ring on default, and just rotate the MR in if you see something particularly threatening with a big magic ability, like Kirke (who is dead this game, but just for example). Alth...

And Tables, because still somehow too long. Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+----- Invocations | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 27 | 2...

Okay, so gnolls can be awesome. :D The Notes and tables are in the second post (too long). Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.0 (webtiles) character file. 6484352 loopi the Bringer of Light (level 27, 236/236 HPs) Began as a Gnoll Wanderer on Mar 16, 2018. Was the Champion of the Shining One. Esc...

Mara (fighting in storm left over from Bai Suzhen moments before -- edit: Or was it wand of clouds actually?) utterly fails to repel Elder Batox Beast (from box of beasts, 16 Evocations)...

Beastie who has such a big cute icon too. :lol:

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Trog or Oka are very strong early on but you might want more ranged/special/holy theme abilities later. Their wrath aren't all that bad if you're a strong melee character with a bit of utility to defend/escape. On a good day, they drop you plenty of nice white items, you buff up and... On a very goo...

Trove on D:10 Ticket: +5 demon blade Readables trove 2 scrolls of enchant weapon 1 scroll of enchant armour 3 scrolls of fog 1 scroll of holy word 1 scroll of identify Book of Transfigurations Book of the Tempests Book of Power Book of Debilitation Sif Muna’s Compendium of Excruciating Stones (Throw...

I gotta admit, normally with a hill orc I'd be very tempted to go crazy with that Manual of Axes.

But the sword is really good, and the manual can at least wait until you find a bigger axe lying around somewhere to make it really shine.

Congratulations. Sometimes getting through the Lair branches can really feel like some of the worst. They can be tedious even when (if) they're not all "that" hard for some runs, barring some awesome equipment. There's just so much skilling up still to be done that early in the game. Agree...

I like the tortoise.

This one might actually inspire a deep elf to train a touch of maces.

The +10 whip "Buno" { elec, Stlth+ }

That "one more Pan rune" thing! Couldn't quite hack Cerebov. Tried hitting him with 3 phantom mirrors, might, agility, heroism, finesse, and variously super crossbow, anti-magic exec axe or berserk and holy wrath giant mace +3. Almost but I'm the smoked one. Got slammed by (particularly) t...

Finally did go for shadow dragon scales. Vault:5 was mostly easy shooting (and a bit of immolation). A few decent shops, mainly id/tele scrolls and some potions. Slight stats and gear update. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.0 (webtiles) character file. loopi the Sniper (Gargoyle Gladiator) Tur...

I got tired of playing slow-clubs ogres for a while... So far happy gargoyle thinking about Vault:5 / Zot. How much Strength and Armor does one need to get Crystal Plate going strong? As is, could wear it with the Str+8 ring and the big EV ring and get 59 AC, 18 EV. I rather like the present EV and ...

the ring of Poynugor {rCorr rElec rF++ rC- Str+8} (You found it in an ice cave) w - the +5 scale mail of Reycoite (worn) {rC- MP+9 Str+9} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts) Used the armor all the way onward through Lair branches, Vaults 4, Depths, Slime (more difficult for a gargoyle), ...

I can sympathize with the OP in feeling that you tend to 'need' superb drops to feel really safe later in the game. Except the OP doesn't say that; the OP says you need superb drops to win, or even to get to 2-3 runes. You might need more stuff to go extended, but of course you _get_ more stuff... ...

I have meeled them with spellcasting mummies. I spent about 15 turns at 1 HP killing a berserking unique and 2 spiders but it does not mean those were not dangerous. Juggernaut might kill that spellcasting mummy in 3-4 attacks. Crawl's damage formula is really awful IMHO. Yeah, I just met one on De...

I really do not understand why people fear for example Juggernauts in depths. I have meeled them with spellcasting mummies. They are not as strong compared to you than an Ogre in the early dungeon (and an Ogre is not a major threat there). I think it's mostly having had the experience or word of th...

I dunno. On one hand, I have a whole lot of deaths around the end floors of Lair branches lately. And when I do hit 3-5 runes, I am very reluctant to foray into extended without a whopping collection of resistances, partly because that is what the wiki has recommended and I really hate to die to big...

Oka gift in Vaults: 1

+4 pair of gloves "Vimn" { rf+++ Str-3 Int+6 }

If I wasn't all melee at the moment and already wearing +3 Gauntlets of War { Slay +5 }, and loads of rF too.

It seems tuna's are very squirrelly, but rather easily fried too. And getting expensive.

D:4 shop, 1006 gold

The ring "Tunalurr" {rF- MR++ Int+6 Dex+5}

BTW, why is it called trunk? Must be some developer term I'm not familiar with. I just googled myself, but I think this may be it (some more description on the page ): A source-control branching model, where developers collaborate on code in a single branch called ‘trunk’ *, resist any pressure to ...

Trove on D:11 Ticket: +7 demon trident Found 2 Shining Eyes in water surrounding the items island! (Wands of Flame are amazingly effective against those, firing out of an island.) D11 mix trove.jpg Identified: White -5 large shield {rF+ MR+ SInv} White +3 Boots {rElec, Int+3} Book of Battle Wand of ...

The +10 halberd of Yney

{ flame, MR+++ Str+3 Int -5 Dex+3 SInv }

Of course, a V:4 Oka gift on a slightly casteryly draconian with 0 polearms trained. :roll:

Trove on D:10 Ticket: +2 ice dragon scales (Not bad for a draconian, found some from a previously live dragon in cold-themed Swamp and used a couple enchant scrolls from Snake.) Readables trove. 2 identify scrolls 2 teleport scrolls 2 magic mapping scrolls 1 scroll of holy word 1 scroll of enchant a...

Had a pretty easy ascent. Got banished by one Pan lord with distortion attacks, but found an exit (2 exits!) quickly out of Abyss: 5. I rather like this ogre with axes business, too. The broad axes were very useful for Guardian Serpent (summon surrounding mobs) situations in Snake. Used Heroism a wh...

Went ahead and went down to Zig:9. Picked up a few nice consumables, but unfortunately no Mutation potions. Also picked up some blurry vision, which I failed to realize was a transient one -- but I think there was another malmutation too? Anyway, quaffed that Mut potion. Cleaned out Zot but took too...

Inaccuracy and loudness can be no picnic, too. It's just one more jigsaw element to me, like trying (hoping?) to get gear and spells with most of the stronger powers or most of the right resistances all at the right time. You can have far more remove curse scrolls than you need by mid game IF you ar...

Through Depths went fairly smoothly -- Zot 3 was just starting to get nasty (so much flipping rings). Only one potion of mutation left. Rather liking the defensive gear, but not the perfect layout for spells. There are a zillion Necro spells and a good few other utility spells around, but not a whol...

There's no way to tell what sort of spells a pan lord has. Pan lords without spells have slightly better stats, but pan lord stats are so variable I wouldn't rely on this. Just to follow up on this... Is there no relationship between their appearance and spells/powers at all? It seemed to me that s...

I'm inclined to say mostly bad luck that you got all 3 so early. If not all of the orcs were immediately next to the stairs when you first met them, maybe dragging one or two upstairs first would have helped improve your chances (avoid facing the whole pack at once). There might be some chance of ki...

Oh yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said "anything" with torment/summon etc. I meant more normal problems like demons and greater undead, which can whittle you down fast if given too much time at range, but can often be defeated in a couple/few turns. Pan lords are a special category. Look clo...

I'm not a really super player and I tend to over-favor gear rather than spells, so I rarely have more than level 6 spells (except as an all-out conjurer blaster sort). More often, I'm just trotting around as a fighter sort with some hefty weapons and a few level 1-3 spells. While you sometimes just ...

Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+----- Invocations | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 20 | 20.6 Short Blades | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ...

This one had grand gear for the short game, if not the most spectacular or fast for extended. Amulet and white plate carried forever. There were also Boots of the Assassin around, but liked the Int boost on the first white ones more. Made moderate use of spells in the middle. Tended to forget the of...

Okay, so gnoll distributed training, slow skill leveling yes yes...BUT... I have been carrying this Manual of Spellcasting picked up in a Wizlab on Vault 2: Through the rest of Vaults (yes including V:5), all of Depths, Slime, Crypt, down to Zig:6, and now to half of Zot:5 (one lung of the orb chamb...

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