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Well then... crap.

Well, that is true I guess I could do that, but as a developer this would be a good learning experience anyways

Plus most of the experimental branches I've seen are for small changes, I'm not sure how well they'd like the idea of potentially unstable sweeping changes.

Well it's tedious even for battle magic which is saying something. I think a lot of people skip it because battle sphere and dart annihilate things and are less noisy, not quite as tedious, and uses hexes. But since I usually go sif as a Cj I memorize it for packs of enemies and ditch it later.

Basically madly tabbing since I only have a few hours this week, died to a ghost who was a bit more powerful than I anticipated :/ Why did chaos reborn have to launch this week bah

Hey :D Thanks a bunch for the feedback. Yeah, I mostly didn't want to make a server because of the potential overhead and I'm mostly busy with work. Looks like I might have to, though. A lot of the appeal of crawl I think is laughing at people splatting, competing, and whatnot, and none of that is p...

Well, they actually can have +/- value I'm pretty sure, don't think they can be cursed, though. Either way, while of course auto-id should be a thing, I don't think making balance decisions on intentionally gimped players is a good idea.

Triple sword didn't make the list? xD

Also, uranium? Sure that's bad. Plutonium on the other hand...

I think his idea is that firestorm would lose it's insane damage in the process. However, in trunk with firestorm being a level 9 spell, it kinda has to be a game changer "nuke everything to dust" spell, or it would be completely useless in a 3 rune game really. Really there shouldn't be a...

radinms wrote:stupid remove

Some day crawl will just boil down to a species as berserker or artificer, and taking the first down stairs gives "YOU WIN!"

In the world of open source, do whatever the **** you want

How about the scroll CASTS a random high level spell

"Discourages the player from lovingly crafting the perfect character rather than playing the game"

You'd also have to change mutations to bypass undead status, rot really isn't much of a discouragement. Either way though, I agree rMut should go away

Well, if we're talking 3 runer which honestly I think is all that should be considered since in 15 rune you can do whatever you want, the brand to compare isn't holy wrath, it's electrocution, vorpal, or freezing more likely, in which case we're not comparing +75% but +16-25%. So for races that have...

Also got greedy and died in depths trying for lairless

Didn't realize one of my summoned shadows was in fact not friendly and died shortly after -.-

Well, late game it makes a pretty good one handed weapon with shield, since those penalties are all gone now aside from the lack of offhand punch which is pretty worthless at that stage anyways. But I guess it's sort of going off topic, since monks do indeed suck as any species without some sort of ...

+8 whip of Dullness {elec, +Blink} before temple. DAAAYAM Edit: Going for lairless! Probably going to flop. Managed to get rMut and wand of teleport, though, so looks like it's abyss time :) Out of blink scrolls, so I think I'm going to bail if I can't clear depths. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version ...

Yeah, think I'm going to go for some more one timers, this round.

I always play each of these characters, get to temple, and am like... aaaagh I can't decide

This one's particularly annoying because slime pits doesn't always have an altar at the entrance right? Could waste all that piety for nothing.

More on silly CF tricks. Usually rF+ and a decent AC significantly lowers conjure flame's damage to you. If you somehow end up glued to something, you can find a corridor, conjure in back of you, run right through it, and find your opponent stuck in flames. Cheap way of getting around the "can'...

That's literally exactly what I do. To OP: Just do it immediately and yes it is based somewhat on skills. If you're have a super good run you might want to delay going for wands so you have a higher chance of a yellow wand. Unfortunately, acquirement just flops about 30% of the time and ignores your...

Alright, so version3 is up, will post the link in op in a moment. Main changes: -All the missing extended branches should show up now in depths, and shortened (hells -> 2 levels, tomb ->1, abyss -> no experience gain for monsters + rune placement chance is quintupled, pan -> 50/50 chance of pan lord...

Oh it works differently on monsters? Because I'm fairly certain that's not how poison works on the player. That's really unexpected o.O Either way I've found it to kill even hill giants, so it's pretty useful at this point in the game. Edit: Yeah it does seem to only be based on degree at least for ...

Because people don't really want changes I think. For instance, I made a mod that gave people pretty much everything they wanted, foodless, auto-id, shorter less drawn out game, more difficult etc. I think.. 2 people have played it? Maybe three or four in case some people didn't post. If people didn...

Well, venom just keeps stacking, so you just need to hit a high hp monster down to slightly more venom than you would a less hp monster before it'll drop after running. I remember fooling around in explorer mode and dying 5 times waiting out a single batch of poison once. The issue with high hp mons...

I'd honestly be more concerned about MR- on a 3 MR per level minotaur with that demon blade that can't necessarily be unwielded in one turn. My advice: forget the shield, but put one point in int at level 21 to prep yourself for the shield if it becomes viable to wear it later on in case you find a ...

Well, I think the reason it was zot 100 is that missing it from teleports that don't take you to the lungs would suck. Nice work though

Isn't the right answer both whips? Electro-> general use. Venom Whip-> High hp low armor (animals/giants), slow, or ele immune. Pretty sure nothing is ele-immune with high armor early game, so mace is probably tossable.

Using the divine spell slot idea, might be fun to make veh gifts pokemon style and ditch spell levels altogether for them. "You're trying to learn a vehumet spell, but you already have 3 memorized, choose which spell to forget!" RE: Spell forgetting through books for vehumet players. Amnes...

You want to do it outside of dragon form definitely, but with rF+++, and you might want dispersal also for once you pick up the orb. Looks like you got !resistance and a bunch of scrolls of fog, sumoning and holy word, so you're all set to go. And yeah, keep teleing to lung and throughly clear out z...

Or just friggin remove the ridiculous piety loss on death and make wandering mushrooms cost more piety to use. It'd make the god more balanced early game anyways when your shrooms aren't going to die anyways. Thematically it doesn't even make sense, fedhas even likes it when YOU die, what does he ca...

nago wrote:
Grinder gestures at you.
_You suddenly lose the ability to move!
_You can move again.
Grinder evaporates and reforms as a hellion!

Heh, found this post amusing. Now the question is... better or worse situation?

Still, you might want to get it out of the way. You want the orb ninja eventually since it's worth 5, and you want to do it on a run where you're only risking losing one point (winning) as opposed to 3-7.

hydra will also walk right into flame clouds =) Not only that, but monsters really aren't that smart, you don't even need to use flame in corridors. Got a spiny frog a few tiles a way in front of you? Just conjure the three tiles in front and adjacent to you and it'll walk right into one and die al...

Clearly belongs in dungeon crawling advice.

Sif muna really doesn't need a buff imo, since she basically guarantees haste/cblink/deflect missiles (+ necro for extended), and thus basically gaurantees a win for many species. Only issue is sif kinda sucks before lair, but I think gods that are strong in end game should be weak in early game. If...

Championing Gozag is impossible, so you must take him first and never abandon. Second one didn't quite complete "challenges" I and II because I overtrained stealth (it's a +4 apt) to 11. Come on, what is a good line to put in your RC file, to alert you when you gain a skill level? Hah, ye...

Well scales and barding ares rare in the first place. I know unrandarts exist for sure, so probably.

Most games you don't get fencer's glovas, lightning scales and +10 plate lol.

In retrospect, trying to ninja the swamp rune with no poison resistance at level 14 with only 10s skills was probably not a good idea. Won the tier 2 challenge, though :D Would've made it too if I saved my cure wounds potion for later, oh well :/ Essentially died of poison. Also, I'm probably the on...

Yeah. I tried zin thinking I could champion him and then switch out. Said screw it and went dith at ** xD So many wands this game O.O Almost hit evocations 10 before blundering my short blades into 10. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-2064-g265a032 (webtiles) character file. greedo the Nimbl...

Well this is a seriously annoying run. just lost Challenge 1 because I jumped too high on short blades -.- At least I can stop dumping points into unarmed

Well unless I'm mistaken, gozag is basically suicide from starvation because kobolds are carnivores and can only eat rations, jerky, and pizza. Or at the best you'd have to spend all your gold on food shops that are only half-filled with food you can eat. Looks like the best god might be no god at a...

Considering ditching the god choices to make the tier 2 easier. Will see what comes up I guess

Er.. lovely god choices there O.O

@hoople Keep in mind, you don't have to finish the game wearing that armour so you don't have to put points into strength. You could train armour to 12 or so, then when you find a good dragon armour type that fits your resists, switch to it and go stealthy again. Ko's don't do well in heavy armour, ...

I was about to say the general walkthrough and character builds sections aren't too bad, and then I reread them.

Well, you're not gauranteed to find bladehands or statue/dragon form, though, which are a quite bit more powerful than your fists. As for the god, what you describe kind of sounds like ru already. Apocalypse damages everything in sight, power leap let's you jump to an enemy and explode on it. It act...

Play nagas. They're like a halfway point between a regular character and a chei player. You'll get used to the pain of moving without actually dying (much).

Yeah it's right there in the inventory, just hit i and pick your armour slot.

As for calculating by hand, that's generally not worthwhile. If you give us a char dump, which is given by pressing #, most people here could give you a rough estimate of how hard an X level spell will be.

Cblink: if you're going for it, don't even bother putting any points until depths. at -1 aptitude you'll need high teens even with a ring of wizardry to get miscast low enough since you aren't sif muna. Shields: probably drop it, ash isn't exactly a powerhouse. Personally I would put points into it ...

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