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everyone in here wrote:You're already cutting all the charming little corners off the game, why not make it even blander?

So I'm playing a HoFE of Qaz right now, and on a lark I try to conjure flame on myself. It gives the usual 'That would be overly suicidal' message that keeps you from doing it. But it wouldn't be overly suicidal at all. I can stand in a conjured flame cloud all day with Qazlal and not even singe my ...

Thanks for the clarification, crate. Understanding what you mean now, I tend to agree. From both a flavor and design standpoint, I feel like Nemelex should be more about what you're calling tactical options than one overarching game-long strategy.

That wasn't my point,... It's not like i don't still like the flavor, the deck juggling just isn't worth it anymore, and without those cards nemelex really doesn't provide something one can't get in another way. The good thing about him was he could help you in a lot of different ways, strategicall...

The flavor hasn't changed. You never liked the flavor. You just liked being able to scum out extra power by abusing the system that was in place.

I certainly agree that Nemelex isn't perfect. His whole piety system could stand a good once over and deck gifting is a bit messy at the moment, but I don't think he's got enough problems to warrant being put through the meat grinder. I'm going to ignore deck of dungeons in this next part, because I...

I propose Norris be described as a Hottie McHotterson.

And as in uffish thought he stood, The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, And burbled as it came! One, two! One, two! and through and through The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back? Makes sense, given the ...

So when you knock off the Royal Jelly Jiyva bites it, since you killed off her last sentient worshiper, correct? What about Dissolution? Not only is he the prophet of Jiyva, he's actually of higher intelligence than the Royal Jelly. I know Dissolution isn't guaranteed to appear every game, so you ca...

Eh. More like six, but whatever. I'm not lobbying against trap removal or something silly like that, just sayin'. Get your britches out of a knot.

Really? I've never played a game where there wasn't literally far too much ammo to carry lying around in massive stacks. The small number of spares you might get from traps should be irrelevant. Well later on, sure, but on D1-3ish extra arrows, or especially bolts are a blessing that let you be a l...

Looking forward to mechanical trap reform or removal as much as anyone, but I'll definitely miss the spare ammo from Arrow/Bolt/Dart traps.

Could have sworn I was on trunk, but I guess it must have been .11. Just figured it was a flavor bit of the vault, given that they were pre-ID'd and everything. OH well

BlackSheep wrote:Water potions were removed in 0.12

They're certainly out of the standard rotation, but I believe I ran into a handful in a vault recently with a few random bits of food and some dead guys and a monster.

njvack wrote:Does that mean Ash would let dracs train Armour?

No. 'Armour' doesn't even show up in there skills list, even with Show(*) set to all.

Curl up into a little ball, cry some, pretend I'm not actually in the abyss...

You know. The usual.

Perhaps you knew it before you died? I can imagine how frustrating that would be, trying to turn your arms into a set of tentacles to strangle that pesky treasure hunter that just disturbed your tomb, only to find yourself embracing him in a (disturbingly comfortable) hug. In all seriousness, though...

What v said. It's just letting you know that it's an Enchant Weapon X scroll.

I guess gamers are more segregated than I thought - I figured that for instantly recognizable. Yes, it's a NATO standard symbol for representing a military unit on a map or graphical display. They are also common in board wargames and some computer wargames (though their use in the latter is dimini...

Life is like Crawl: You're going to die sooner or later

Base damage with claws is 8, base damage with Blade Hands is 12, plus a bit extra from Dex/Str, if I recall correctly.

I'd say go ahead and use Blade Hands when you need to slap someone's shit hard.

Actually, I also thought that Engorged would have a negative effect (think about it, when you've stuffed yourself so full that it hurts, it gets very difficult to perform any physical activity, and you'll usually feel somewhat tired and dopey, here we call it "food stupor"). For what it's...

"I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes." ?

Picked up a recent trunk build. Ran into a "Mountain Bat". "Huh, that's new." x->v "A species of bat that lives at high altitudes. How it got into the dungeon is a mystery - probably something related to the sudden demise of dwarves in those lands. But don't worry, an eradic...

Picked up the Humble Voxatron Debut the day of for a buck, and ended up getting BTM and tBoI anyway, since they were added post-purchase. Binding's alright, 'Bout as much a rougelike as Splelunky is, but fun for a change of pace. Bit easy.

yellow should get rCorr instead of rAcid++, but it seems they're considered appropriate as is. if i recall correctly their breath timer was reduced, but i haven't played one since. I disagree. rCorr protects your items from damage. rAcid protects YOU from damage. This implies, in the case of dracon...

I can't believe they're people still bothered by this -- if you've been into Crawl long enough to be attached to a race, I assume that you'd understand Crawl well enough to know that it changes, and that in general it changes for the better. I was sad to hear that dwarves were going because I love ...

Found another little thing in the Ash section. He no longer gives 'bonus XP', but it is still briefly mentioned in the 'advantages' section.

Zelkelion wrote:
I don't know... this sort of thing evokes mental images of dying orc hosts making out with the nearest sentient creature they can find.

Then again, Sigmund is a sentient creature.

You know, hadn't really thought about it that way. Unexpected bonus!

You know in all seriousness a parasite species would be pretty cool. Your 'background' choice starts you out in the host body of a first level Human (Background), and you go through the dungeon as normal, until you're on the ropes, as it were. Hosts can't recover hp through ANY method, and once you ...

Really depends on the definition of 'gimmick', which, if you ask me, is all different kinds of ephemeral these days. Example: I'd call octopodes and felids less 'gimmicky' than vampires and deep dwarves, for the exact same reasons you list. Granted, I'm not saying anything about any of those gimmick...

Yo, dpeg, you might want to start quaff IDing to find yourself a Potion of Chill. It's Yiuf's, not GDD.

I take it you're under a bit of stress from the various recent backlashes to decisions that you presumably had a hand in?

Yeah, Kiku's pretty loose with the books she gives. And they're damn good ones. Bit of a 'town bike' situation, but hey, I ain't complaining.

Yeah. It's magic what that damage shaving and wand of healing can do for you, especially in the early game where it matters most.

Oh well, I'm not sure why I keep typing up these novels on MD as they are probably not going to be considered very hardly by the devs. I doubt this change will be reversed, and I'm still going to keep playing this game regardless, so whatever. Yeah, I'm none too happy about it either, but this is o...

Actually, zero. Helmets are just as tough as caps. If I recall correctly, hats provide no base AC bonus in trunk. Still, only a minor gripe. Stuff about hat-weirding Minotaurs looking dumb in Tiles wearing hats. You know, you can manually change your head tile to whatever you want despite what you'...

Maybe they could have, instead, an inherent passwall ability a la the spell, that they grow into at Level 5 or 6? And good Fire Magic apts? Lava Dwarf, perhaps...? Edit: Further thoughts: perhaps a single pip of rF at level 10-12 or somewhere in there, like the Deep Dwarf's rN, or maybe instead of ...

Grimm wrote:
XuaXua wrote:Grimm is gonna be pissed.

If by 'pissed' you mean 'drunk', then indubitably.

See? Now look what you've done!

Driving poor Grimm into his cups. For shame, devs. For shame.

Mmm. Still. Going to miss my little armored brick shithouses.

If you say so.

Guess there needs to be a good excuse to roll Golems out sometime soon anyway.

Was checking up in the trunk change list and came across this -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0edc768 | Adam Borowski | 2011-10-25 19:39:38 +0200 Give mountain dwarves the axe. --------------------------------------------------------------------------...

Will Invocations reduce the hunger cost of god abilities? I'm playing a Spriggan and picked Yredelenmul (new policy of picking the first reasonable-looking god I see), forgetting about food issues. edit: well, I'm still curious, but managed to splat against a ghost by my very next staircase "s...

I know what you mean. Started an OgBe before bed last night, walked one step and found a mottled dragon armor, then a ring of sustenance and amulet of the gourmand on D1. Next couple floors continued to drop more 'rather nice things', let's say, into my lap. At this point, I'm just waiting for the o...

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@evilmike
Dredmor may be simple and easy as sin, but it's a goddamn masterpiece compared to Cardinal Quest.

Eesh... Cardinal Quest. The thing on Kongregate is the demo. Actual game is 4 something USD. Dude gave it out for free the first day, so I gave it a try. It's... Simple. Insultingly so. Does all the decisionmaking for you, as though you will collapse into a pile of helpless goo if it isn't holding y...

Trunk most of the time. Loving Octopodes and partial skill levels. New traps are neat too. (Though my potions and scrolls probably hate me for it)

You should try TESIII: Morrowind (the precurser to Oblivion and an arguably better game. Hard to roll a caster and a somewhat broken leveling system but very much in the style of roguelikes) In what way do you think Morrowind is in the style of roguelikes? I don't remember dying a whole lot in Morr...

Dude... wtf AtT lol. And to further derail this thread... I was just posting on FB how awesome Enterprise is compared to the rest of the franchise. Finished watching it a few weeks ago and started on Voyager... It feels like I'm watching Care Bears now that I've experienced the ST universe at its g...

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