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Then Ash's conduct becomes "you have to keep cursing stuff as the curses wear off Actually Ash would be more interesting if Ash maintained curses instead of letting them wear off, forcing you to suffer the consequences of taking cursed items off unlike everyone else. Ash could have a active ab...

Yeah but imagine if you got MR++ from Trog's Hand only when flying, and everyone but a gargoyle or tengu had to find a ring or boots of flying to get MR++ from Trog's Hand, or something ridiculous like that - that's like how Fedhas and rain work with respect to swimming/flying species.

Oh, like if you trained LBl to 27, then siphoned off all of your SBl skill to dodging, thus getting significant sub-27 skill in LBl with absolutely no skill in SBl. I hadn't thought of that. You could halt Skill Transfer when you deplete a skill to the minimum level you can have with current crosstr...

When you found out that you could move after all, did you immediately think "Ah! Then it must set my pre-slow base speed to 10 regardless of my species, even though it doesn't change anything else like size!"

How about ceasing the blue nonsense and simply make e.g. training LBl dump an additional free 40% skillpoints into SBl? Then blue font will be used for Okawaru and Ashenzari but not crosstraining. When you lower a skill using Ashenzari skill transfer, make it deplete related crosstrained skills. Kee...

I scummed 0.11/0.12 Nemelex, not sure if that's as old as when you scummed but I found scumming old Nemelex early can have extremely variable outcomes e.g. only 1 deck after clearing lair.

@Floodkiller At least that's functional. The 5 cards in your hand can easily fit into the ^ screen. 1 note: Blind Draw should not be a 0* ability because then you could excommunicate yourself by spamming Blind Draw, then run back to the altar and rejoin with 15 piety again. The only god that you can...

Helix Card is now only found, not gifted, but yeah it has a nasty effect (degeneration I think)

I always thought that ghouls rot constantly for flavor reasons, primarily, because it's so easy for them to cure rot that it's not an actual gameplay problem. So removing natural rotting from ghoul perks should not affect game balance or anything important like that. And, hello, they're already one ...

It's a mystery, why shops keep increasing in price. Increasing prices were introduced with this commit: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=6c4c28ead39be3cd334424aea31b5898990d2b05 Then this was removed for potion petition but not call shop: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;...

Is there some kind of Mummy-Nemelex synergy?

e: Oh, I get it - being forced to not carry any potions

But see, octopodes and merfolk already have that cheese. That's the issue. Let everybody have the cheese. Don't dole it out selectively. If it was just a couple species that were really bad with Fedhas, that would be a different story - like Trog and unberserkable species. But don't put pressure to ...

To say that Yred's not very high priority on the list of flagrantly bad aspects of Crawl is one thing, to disagree with OP is another. I mean, to really say that OP is wrong you must claim "Yred should suck in extended" which I don't think is easy to do. There's no reason to be defensive a...

Recent thread inspired me to bump. Existing nonliving monsters tend to have interesting properties and abilities. A lot of them use ranged attacks, addressing the 'boring melee' issue brought up by bcarden. Overall Yred would stay good longer while still making complete holistic sense. Changing Yred...

The main problem I see is that when you make decks non-consumable, something has to be done to balance the power / prevent you from spamming them like nonstop. Yeah, basically, either that or cards need to be nerfed. Although it should be noted that a ton of cards are worse than high-end summonings...

"The old penalties..."
heh, so old
You're quick to find ways to get these mechanics to work!

6. you can animate designer skeletons like those scattered in Labyrinth
7. if you leave a level long enough for your killed enemies to rot into skeletons, you still have something to animate

1) Adds a lot of complexity. There's different removal penalties for each amulet? That's a lot for new players to pick up. I think there's more to it than different removal penalties. The penalties are arbitrary. I don't know why Dismissal should give you contam or even teleportitis, nor Regenerati...

You can have a bit of best of both worlds if potions of cure mutations are made more common and if they turn permanent mutations into temporary ones instead of just insta-erasing them.

to be bumped by twelve

the humiliation :oops:

I simply submit to the implicit purpose of current stat shuffling.

dynast wrote:But would you remove stat shuffling to implement that?

Well, maybe. Or make it completely unweighted. Or, as I said, less aggressive, for the same reason you pointed out.

Jiyva’s stat shuffling tends to be very biased. It can easily give you stats you don’t need, endanger you to collapse, etc. At the same time it is deterministic and can be gamed through equipment selection and skilling. It feels like a remnant from the skillpool era and does not belong in Modern Cra...

No, I was the one who was turning the perspective around, a point which you may have missed: Lasty asserts “unbalanced is fine” which I challenge with the assertion “balanced is fine”. Technically nobody has backed up either assertion yet since it’s such a fundamental topic that you have to delve de...

Yred is already one of the stronger gods for the 3-rune game. I don't think Yred also needs to be an amazing god in 15 rune games. It's not a bad thing for god power to change in different areas of the game. But why is it better for a god to be bad post-mid? And why is it worse for a god to remain ...

Dharmy wrote:EDIT: Since mutagenic chunks give no nutrition, why can't they always be eaten?

That's the only reason Engorged is a negative status effect.

What about all the troll monks that wield a cursed -2 slingshot on D:2 and can't find a remove curse scroll until the orc shops?

Well, > doesn't really mean 'enter', it means 'descend the stairs to another level', and it's kludged to work for shops and portals. It's better than there being an abilities button for entering a shop. The only reason that would not be as bad with altars is you use altars more rarely than shops, so...

Fedhas should let you walk straight into shallow and deep water without movement or attack penalty, and let you pick stuff up from the bottom. Flavored as Fedhas moving water aside to let you pass - think of Moses crossing the red sea. This would seem somewhat weird only in the case that the player ...

Aww **** there's no going back now! :evil:

Basic idea can be laid out like this: ⋅ non-book artefacts and blue items can have up to 1 quality (*drain,*contam,*fragile...) that produces a nasty effect on unequip ⋅ remove curses and the Scroll of Remove Curse; introduce the Scroll of Impart Fragility ⋅ Scroll of I...

I have a little question about this - what happens when a monster wields a fragile item? Does the item disappear when they unwield it? I ask because last time I checked, monsters could unwield weapons of distortion with impunity, and Ash should be able to tell you if a monster is wielding a Fragile ...

Spells in general have the effect happen before the spellcasting noise happens uh? - and non-spells have their noise happen before the main effect? :? (unless the spell takes more than one turn like passwall) Speaking of which, that's not just spells. If you have blurry vision, the delay when readi...

Surely you could do Slime:6 if you wanted to, and food from its vaults would likely reimburse the expenditure. You got to Slime:5 already. With 13 evo you have 15% chance to paralyze TRJ after reading vulnerability, or roughly 50% over 3 zaps, and you have 11 of those scrolls. And you can kill and e...

Aethrus wrote:the prospect of piety super meter gods is being seriously discussed

What makes you believe this is the case?

Cool! So if you go down to D:2 for the first time, and see one upstairs nearby, you now know which of the remaining 2 downstairs on D:1 it leads to?

Each hand makes a separate attack in UC. Sacrificing hand makes you lose your offhand attack, which is much weaker than your main hand attack. You don't get any extra delay. Go for it.

*meaning if the property that gives the penalty were XP-gated, rather than if the penalty incurred by taking off the item were XP-gated. This thread is about *contam, *drain, *fragile, *rot, and maybe other properties I forgot, but not faith. It does not matter how long you've been wearing the artef...

right - so you'd want to either hide the fragility, or if you warn about the fragility before equip, you might as well auto-identify the whole article.

A fragile Majin-Bo would be hilarious.

I have to agree with dpeg and Archaeo here. If there was a chance to break upon removal, it could be aggravating in a way similar to old item destruction. BugHunter, as for ID scrolls, you forgot to mention that having something fragile on prevents you from equip-identifying other items that use the...

On a whim I explored the possibility of flipping the basic idea of the amulets reform on its head - to make rings hard to swap. The result seems neater than I expected. It's in CYC now but I think it answers various complaints here. For example, your set of rings becomes akin to a low-tier low-wrath...

1) a species that has access to strategic scrolls but not tactical scrolls 2) a species that has access to tactical scrolls but not strategic scrolls 3) a species that has access to neither strategic nor tactical scrolls What makes you assume that #1 is better and more interesting than #2 and #3?? E...

In no way except that sacrificing artifice locks you out of the megazigging game. BOOOOOO!

speedrunning Diablo 2 is really not what I had in mind but if you post a link I'll take a peek

OK, let's just wait and see what Gammafunk comes up with.

How did this end up in CYC? I looked at the previous lab-related threads and the dev wiki, and didn't see anywhere the simple suggestion of turning the labyrinth into one of the wizlabs. I also addressed the common rebuttals to both removing the lab and keeping the lab as-is. I even mentioned issues...

Really? No responses? Does nobody actually know? Surprising, because this topic is important. Much of the challenge in Crawl is due to multiple monsters being able to attack you. And that is made possible almost exclusively due to sound. Without sound, Crawl tactics would look very different. Luring...

Now, now, a game like Diablo can still be strategically and tactically deep and challenging, with rogue-like penalties for screwing up, and have absolutely no food-like timer.

So everybody was discussing why devs want to make amulets less swappable and this came up: And why remove amulet swapping over ring swapping? Amulet swapping is significantly faster and smoother and less annoying than ring swapping because you're only wearing one so there's no pause and extra keystr...

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