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It's pretty decent flavor and it's a flavor already very well fulfilled by Pan, which doesn't even offer up any obvious threats that picking up the rune could neutralize, unlike Hell.

Tabstorm said that you had 30 turns before the first portal goes away; that's 30 turns where you can "collapse back" to safety That's actually rather spoilery. Most player-created effects are much less effective when out of view. Summons don't attack enemies. Clouds dissipate faster. Then...

that's just for *rock walls*, and EE can hop rock walls without finding Spatial Translocations so I'm not sure what the point of that is. Sure (though note the timer on PoG) and that's not an argument against the spell. Note you can already do what Firestorm does, right now, with a level 6 spell: 1)...

It's funny: note how easily hecklers could have ridiculed Hyperphase as waaay too powerful defensively... but the first posters nudged at the "it's too weak" route, and that's the direction it snowballed.

fog is a player-centered effect and I suggested upthread how those are to be treated

kuniqs wrote:how do you target something out of your LOS, but not your clone's?

you use arrow keys to target the tile you need, then press "." or "enter" or "f".

Might want to take a look at the first few posts in this old thread of mine, to duvessa's first post or so, especially regarding question #5 in that thread, and some things may become clear: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15988 the % refers to how much of the XP you're gaini...

BONUS PROPOSAL This can be extended quite easily to the Golden rune, as it is with the Slimy rune. You know the two big treasure rooms on Tomb:3? Well, they can be locked out completely. Let's say the doors have a permanent sealing rune applied to them. After you pick up the rune, the sealing rune d...

tasonir wrote:Archaeo follows this up with the video of sledgehammering a chicken

That's an axe whose blade boasts such a large angle that the head looks like a toblerone bar.

Yes, hell effects on the way back are harmless compared to what you have to go through to get the rune and kill/escape the hell lord. But hell effects continue to divert your IRL resources. The amount of time/attention allocated to something in-game can be considered proportional to its impact. You'...

It seems pretty clear that awake monsters know the location of a sound that they hear, and sound always attracts them. So, monsters always try to move towards sources of sound so long as they have not "noticed" a target, such as you. However, monsters can hear lots of sounds at the same ti...

The epicenter ascpect is misguided because it fundamentally muddles the mechanical clarity of this spell. Sometimes, your clones are all doing the same thing at the same time. Other times, the epicenter is doing all the work. This makes Hyperphase have a lot in common with Summonings. It no longer h...

This is like if spectral weapon and passage of golubria got drunk and had a deformed baby.

TeshiAlair wrote: the chance that something might spot your copy.

Up to this point it sounded like the copy is just an ally, but aren't allies perfectly stealthy?

I just realized that killing Hell Lords to end Hell Effects has a precedent with the TRJ situation:

With an infernal noise, the power ruling over this place vanishes!

Same remarks can dismiss a whole lot of spells: Leda's, battlesphere, stoneskin, passwall, butterflies, forest, petrify, necromutation, dragon's call....

Divine vigor is not useless. It buffs your HP by 50% at 27 ivo. Greater healing costs half as much piety and heals an average of 36 HP at 27 invo. So greater healing and divine vigor break even if you have 144 HP, with divine vigor being better at higher HP. But it's the low-HP characters that are ...

OK, it's not meant to be act as a petition of any sort

and your 40 strength coupled with 14 armor skill makes the EV penalty from plate armor negligible

Oops, I wasn't thinking very clearly when I wrote that. Torment damage is calculated successively, so... First clone's tormenting makes you take 1/2 of 100 damage, divided by 5, leaving you with 90 HP. Second clone's tormenting makes you take 1/2 of 90 damage, divided by 5, leaving you with 81 HP. T...

Your EV is appallingly low. Stop training Statue Form (why did you even bother) and train dodging. If stuff gets bad you have Step from Time and a legendary Tomb. TD will give you the space you need to Tomb up. He can use Tomb immediately if he wants to: #...........# ####.....#### #..# # #.....# #....

In the Hells, it's somewhat annoying to collect hell loot and travel back to stairs after you've done the nasty business. It used to be that picking up the rune removed -cTele, letting you quickly get back to a portal, but cTele is gone now. A bit of a denouement as you track back to the vestibule w...

PC should not be able to collapse state within a wall, agreed. You may like to guarantee that PC can always collapse right after casting the spell, i.e. so that not all clones are fully surrounded by walls and at least one empty tile is in view. However, you could just allow re-casting Hyperphase to...

Here's how an encounter with a tormentor might go: There's one tormentor around, you have 100 HP, no rTorment and no rN. You cast Hyperphase and split into 5 clones, 3 of which are within LOS of the tormentor. The tormentor torments, and you take 50/5 damage 3 times for a total loss of 30 HP. Less t...

but you can also make some very firm guarantees about being partially in the center at any given time, and are frequently enough in the center eh, why make strange "mostly but not completely" exceptions like this when you don't have to? * Don't end the spell when CBlinking or Blinking giv...

Rasputin didn't read spoilers or he would know that ddoor does not protect you from drowning.

I didn't think that adding offensive abilities would be more interesting, you must have misread something. You think DD^Makh is broken because it is so powerful, but I asked about rebalancing DD^Makh to actually work - ignoring the impact on all other species and gods. It feels to me like you're avo...

my interpretation: YOU CAST THE SPELL The player character evaporates and reforms as N clones scattered around the location. These clones can go into statues, beyond walls, out of sight, but not onto tiles occupied by monsters or allies. Clones are immobile. At the very edge of maps, any clone that ...

I got a PM from bcarden that might as well go here: The original concept was retooling of Deep Dwarf to be weaker (and significantly different) than DD^Makh, Vampire is relatively weak and makes you hop through loops to track how you heal. I guess you want to retool the gameplay of Vampires as a god...

I get it. Especially since Hurricos patiently wrote detailed explanations in reply. OP may not have detailed all the mechanics, what keystrokes you'd normally press after casting this spell, etc, but I assumed it was because he trusted everyone to fill it in with whatever makes sense. I can write my...

The Ferret wrote:extra items or reworking the structure of the game

it's apparently not that hard - wheals wrote the code for this over a year ago

you can be worried about wandering or spawning monsters, especially if you get teleported on an uncleared level, especially if you have very few HP left.

archaeo wrote:which, if players see an average of 30 Pan floors, is 3 Zigs while fetching the runes

That's if you clear floors completely. If you take the first gate you see, which is done often if not usually, you will very rarely see 3 zigs by the time you find all 5 pan runes.

Yeah, adding a new hidden property for every monster is a great way to make polymorph less spoilery. Actually, if Polymorph Dice are strictly based on XP values, then polymorph can legitimately be referred to as "using the XP value of the creature, with some irrelevant rounding involved"....

you're still saying that it should not matter whether it's a river rat you've just polymorphed, or a death yak
making polymorph a "turn into popcorn" wand, rather radically changing what it's good for

I'm not sure that the benefit of allowing players a slightly faster form of scummery outweighs the ability for the game to enforce a challenging conduct on those who want to have fun grinding. what the hell does that mean challenging conduct = don't enter the depths zig between finding it and getti...

How would the character even know that a boulder beetle got successfully paralyzed while it's rolling? It's not like there's anything to give it away. If it's rolling, it's rolling, paralyzed or not.

amaril wrote:Activated Abilities:
Blink (like the mutation)
Shaft Self

these should be given to the monster version

How about making polymorph work like new level creature generation? eg most of the time you get something level appropriate, but occasionally you get something OOD. so, uh... the game would not care whether you're polymorphing an orc or an orc warlord, the results would be the same? and if you poly...

If no Zigs generate in Pan, the player locks himself out of one of the post-end mini-games by doing the depths zig early. That's a choice, but is it fair to call it interesting? Right now, nothing but death blocks you from exploring any level of the game, except timed portals I guess. if you're will...

Landsknetch wrote:hence the Russian naming

wheals wrote:https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commits/zig-evokable

Lair:1 is about to become the default location for mega-zigging

typhen wrote:The benefits of training Spellcasting are primarily these two:
- extra spell slots
- extra spellpower/success for all spells, at a rate of 1/4 of other spell skills

- extra maximum MP pool :arrow:

this is a very substantial benefit

It's possible to both have an infinite Pan with infinite Zigs, and have each fully cleared Zig create another Zig when you exit. That would allow players to go Zigging in Pan if they bail from the Depths Zig, but they'd only have to find one to get the opportunity of Zigging forever. This way player...

One of the main problems? But that's its primary function! What, do you think regeneration should only be good for speeding up out-of-combat recovery? It would rarely make any difference then and few would bother with it, so it would need a huge buff like giving 8 hp per turn if it only activates wh...

Greyr wrote:making the spells near useless without a decent spell power.

Repel/Deflect missiles works like that because even if you cast it, the chance for it to unravel with each shot is relatively high at low spell power.

you're really asking for someone to write a script that checks whether a blue equivalent to the randart is possible, and if it is, like say a +7 demon whip of vampirism, then.... what, destroy it? turn it into a blue item? what an inane request how is it dumb that you cannot further enchant an artef...

In foodless crawl... What does the rest of that paragraph have to do with foodless crawl? It's actually an accurate description of current, foodful crawl. If crawl got rid of food tomorrow, vampires would play the same as today. Except that if crawl changed the hunger cost (of e.g. channeling) to s...

A couple of practical solutions. The first one is somewhat of a hack and just solves the most pressing issue: Introduce a LOWER_POLY flag that makes the polymorph function look at (2/3)*HD+1 for the purpose of choosing a polymorph target. Apply this flag to problematic monsters like Gastronok and va...

This might sound crazy, but hear me out. What if instead of Vp being horribly annoying to play, what if they, like, didn't have to eat but still got the benefits of their undead traits + normal regen????? Then they would be mummies with a tiny bit less MR and a slightly worse conjurations aptitude,...

passive buff that just works in exchange for the three spell slots...This would solve most of the problems with the spell all at once. so never turning off? You introduce the issue of there being no penalty (three spell slots is nothing) for better-than-troll healing, where all you need to do is fi...

This change allows playing many species as a vampire, but forbids the 20 or so gods vampires can now worship. I think what is gained is more interesting than what is lost. And I think I understood a little more what you're going for. You can still have a nice god that does push you toward certain pl...

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