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1) no 2) just luck Thanks. I have 21 in slaying and even could go higher but switched Gloves of War to gloves of fencing to get more dex and ev. Even my elemental staff is strong with this amount of slaying. You could throw scrolls at enemies and it would be strong with that amount of slaying. Yes,...

Berder wrote:1) no
2) just luck

Thanks. I have 21 in slaying and even could go higher but switched Gloves of War to gloves of fencing to get more dex and ev. Even my elemental staff is strong with this amount of slaying.

1) Is there a cap on Slaying?

2) I have the elemental staff and have gotten all kinds of slaying gear. Is there any relation or was it just luck.

If a monster isn't on screen, that monster cannot harm you. Darkness makes it so fewer monsters fit on-screen, and makes it so you have to spend fewer turns with the monster on-screen before you can reach it in melee and do whatever it is you're going to do. Fewer stealth-breaking steps required be...

I'm saying that GS is fine because in my experience it doesn't take a really heavy toll on your MP until your HP is low (I have literally no idea how it actually works!), and I would almost always prefer having low-ish HP and low-ish MP to having really low HP and high MP (the exception: I have esc...

If you're aiming for a 3 rune game I wouldn't go for a lv.9 despite being reachable with Na and Ash. Poison arrow, iron shot, bolt of cold/fire are good choice if you want some conjunction spell. Otherwise necromancy is good. Anyway I wouldn't use statue form, buy I'd learn all low utility spell av...

My melee is not bad With +14 slaying, yeah, sure :P Btw, Ash is also great for stabbing. Short blade with lots of slaying are also great (try a quick blade or even a short sword of speed). But elemental staff is fine. It hardly matters what spells you learn in this situation. Just be careful and yo...

Sandman25 wrote:Also Haste would be really cheap for Na of Ash with Int 21 and ring of wizardry in robe, I would definitely go for it not to care about casting it as often as I may need.

Yes, I will probably get it as a spell. It is my primary buff.

I actually started this character planning to be a stabber with Dis. But I met Ash on the second level and found a nice quarterstaff so I ended up going heavier on Magic. But now I am not sure what to do for spells. My melee is not bad so I would like more softening up type of spells and use both me...

Mostly I play DemonStabber of Ash or Demon/Naga Trans with Chei. Have tried Dis with Stabbers. Fun but not as durable. Just thinking of something different. Naga assassin/stabber of Dith can be very powerfull and durable, and fun :) https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15720&...

mopl wrote:Go to Zot:5, take the Orb of Zot, and escape in D:1

Thanks. Figured it out. I will do that tommorrow. Actually, I kind of like the midgame better than the end game. But still nice to have gotten 15 Runes.

You have collected 15 runes. Go and Win. ????what do I do?

Well my first three rune will also be my first 15 rune. Hoped to go through one more zig but I am now at my last rune. Thanks for all the help on this forum. And thanks to Ash. Woudln't have made it without you.

radinms wrote:Ash only gives a boost to magical skills for transmuter.
Chei gives you all stats you need. Chei is the best.

Mostly I play DemonStabber of Ash or Demon/Naga Trans with Chei. Have tried Dis with Stabbers. Fun but not as durable. Just thinking of something different.

Is this just not worth trying? Having UC, Fighting and Spellcasting are all important for Transmuters and Ash doesn't do anything for them. But keeping up the magic side would be easy. And possible to have high UC, high ranged weapon, and good magic. Still leaves the weapon slot uncursed or worse ye...

Also, casting shadow creatures can help you guess what you are facing. It got me through two zigs.

Survived all of Hell. Now five more runes to finish! First I need to find a few restore abilities potions so will be scrumming in Pan for a while. try to get my fighting and spellcasting up to higher levels. (Although I only train one at a time. Rest goes into spell skills or whatever..)

Can't you just quaff a restore abilities? I usually have far more of those than I need. Also I'd go with MTLA over MDA, regen is nice everywhere, more so in hell. rF+++ will definitely help in Gehenna, but I think the MDA is only sticky flame resistance? Usually I have far more than I need. This ga...

Shift-G is not the same thing as Shift-X. I had just barely escaped from the bottom level of the swamp after meeting three hydras and two swamp dragons. So after healing while standing on the stairs down, I pressed "Shift-X" and ">" to find another set of stairs down. Except tha...

Are there any stores in Pan? I have lots of gold but nothing to buy. I only have Ge in Hell and then onto Pan and Zot. But might go to Pan for a while and come back to finish up Hell. Just wish I could find some stores. Actually, just to buy things like restore abilities, meat rations, etc. These ar...

But I also have the Black Mark mutation which does help a little with HP. Not as good as a vampiric blade for regaining HP but the damage is sometimes helpful. Having just recently done a 15 rune Ds run, I've noticed that the Negative Energy Perk really shines during extended. I really enjoyed that...

8 Runes and 7 to go. So far hell has been easy. Did Iron and the Undead one first. Just dived down buffed and killed the boss. Cold should be ok but will be more careful. Must go back to lair to get my dragon armour for fire resistance. Actually, my stats are healing in Hell. I was pretty wiped out...

8 Runes and 7 to go. So far hell has been easy. Did Iron and the Undead one first. Just dived down buffed and killed the boss. Cold should be ok but will be more careful. Must go back to lair to get my dragon armour for fire resistance. Actually, my stats are healing in Hell. I was pretty wiped out ...

having cleared a zig the same game you got 3 runes for the first time is very impressive, well done. Thank you. Some was due to what I learned here, some was to Ash for help in building up a strong character, and a lot of luck. I did find shadow creatures to be very important here. Let me figure ou...

I found that cure mutations were very common in ziggurats, if you don't mind entering the one in the depths knowing you won't clear it. Will I have another chance to get into ziggurats if I don't finish it? I only did Zig once and left after a while. Then died trying to attack something with a rott...

Having taken extremely high stealth characters into zigs, I can say the skill is almost useless. You can teleport away from a mob and if you are lucky and end up in an isolated corner, you may have some more turns than usual for recovery, but it seemed to me that moving at all just brings them comi...

I save scum... a lot. (I am not competing with the rest of the players just having fun exploring possibilities with the game.) It seems to me Demonspawn mutations are predefined. I watch when my DS is about to level and save the game. Usually, I forget to do that and die first. :) Replay by loading...

Would this be of use in Zig? I have a plus five shield of reflection which is very nice. (With repel missles from my amulet of the air there is little worry about missles.) But if I wear the shield of Gong my shield goes from 20 to 33 and I max out on Neg resistance. There isn't much manuevering her...

Long blades are an excellent followup to short blades, yes. And if you want more accuracy after getting short blades to 15, you might as well train fighting, which gives you some actual benefits in addition to more accuracy you don't really need :) Yes I do need to boost that. Unfortunately, Ash do...

This is my character now. I do have more gear in my stash but much of the best gear is on already. Thanks for all the advice from the forum. I really have no idea how this character survived. I was only fully bound at the bottom of the Orc Mines because of a lack of Remove Curse Scrolls as well as a...

How useful is this spell? From reading the Wiki, I would guess you would use it somewhat like Beserk. Make sure you are safe after the effect wears off. It says you are almost invincible. What does this mean in detail? Are all the spells from the Necronomicon worth having? or in other words can I s...

How useful is this spell? From reading the Wiki, I would guess you would use it somewhat like Beserk. Make sure you are safe after the effect wears off. It says you are almost invincible. What does this mean in detail? Are all the spells from the Necronomicon worth having? or in other words can I sk...

I found that cure mutations were very common in ziggurats, if you don't mind entering the one in the depths knowing you won't clear it. Will I have another chance to get into ziggurats if I don't finish it? I only did Zig once and left after a while. Then died trying to attack something with a rott...

I got five runes and am starting to get summoning and necro to help my stabber. I did Tomb 1 but wanted to get summons, Lich form higher before I went to level 2. Maybe take out confuse and add Dispel Undead if I get a scroll of Amnesia. Questions: 1)I have pain and the Necronomicon. I would like to...

Don't reskill out of the skill that lets you tab orb guardians (and cast many useful spells, such as Dispel Undead, Agony, Regeneration, Borgnjor's/Death's Door). Incidentally, how did you get the necromancy skill? You haven't cast any necro spells or used reskilling. If you want another killing me...

After a tough beginning, and a dire lack of remove cuse scrolls/heal potions I have got my first three runes! Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.2 (tiles) character file. Darkness the Unseen (Demonspawn Enchanter) Turns: 73388, Time: 09:57:56 HP 159/159 AC 19 Str 9 XL: 23 Next: 4% MP 49/49 EV 40 ...

I'm not entirely sure I understand the question, but I'll hazard a reply. Don't train spell casting *or* evocations just for the MP. Don't sweat small differences in aptitudes, as your attempts to micromanage experience allocation will very often land you in a worse place. Generally, evocations is ...

I did a lot of Ashenzari enchanters. They began as enchanters but quickly became generalists because Ash buffs every magic school you know (but not spellcasting) meaning I had access to a huge variety of spells. I actually usually leave my weapon hand unbound though, because if you can confuse it o...

Is there any relation to the price and the goods within? Probably: the more expensive the price the more disappointed you could be after having opened the trove. But besides this there's no relation between the price and the items within. :lol: Thanks I didn't think there was but still should be su...

Is there any relation to the price and the goods within? I was asked for six potions of haste. Not a high price but as I only have one it will take me a while to find five more. (Although I have had very few remove curse scrolls this game which hurts as I am with Ash so might take longer than I want...

As a stabber of Ash it seems to me that it would be most effective to have my Evocations level higher than spellcasting simply because it is easier and as my weapon hand is bound wands are my missle weapons. While it is very nice to have high spellcasting it requires much more exp to build up for bo...

I have the amulet of the air. I am demonspawn EH with Ash and have SB to 15 which seems about fine at xp level 13. But should I be putting more into sb because of the inaccuracy?

I picked up a +2 Cutlass of pain with rage and MR+. as a stabber is it worth building up levels of necro? I am level 10 and wonder if by the time the weapon can do serious pain damage I will have less and less enemies without Neg resistance. I am demonspawn enchanter of Ash. My other nice find is a ...

gb wrote:i was sorry to lose a recent NaWz character, here's one reason why:

the ring "Rayf Renul" (left hand) {+Blink +Lev rElec rPois AC+1 EV+5 Str+4 Dex-2}
(You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)

Ouch...what a loss.

I could use some advice on how to balance my skills. I am now in Lair and going to the Orcish Mines. I cleared out some of the lair but don't want to go into the swamp with no resistance against electricity or poison. My goals for now are to even out skills and get a plan for magic. Of course, when ...

Corpse regen is very useful, in branches with corpses. Eventually you'll probably want invisibility and haste. Darkness is also a good spell for stabbers (reduces line of sight and hence monster's ability to see you). Shadow creatures and Animate dead will give you some buddies to be meat shields o...

I'd use the elec dagger, drain is ok too. Pick up stuff from the book of Frost (freeze/ozo/icebeast) or geomancy (LRD/passwall/petrify/stoneskin). If you have any good necro spells than the pain dagger is amazing. Stop training short blades, you might even have Ash remove some of that skill. Yes, I...

Sprucery wrote:I'd keep on stabbing with the elec dagger. Yes, the fan is worth grabbing (train some more Evo every once in a while).

Actually, I normally use the draining because it helps if I get mobbed. But I think I will keep stabbing as Ash is really quite nice to us stabbers.

If you drop multiple scrolls of remove curse and pray to Ash, only one will be converted. You can just pick them back up again. Or you can use 'd1c' to drop 1 scroll of remove curse, assuming it's assigned to letter 'c'. Thanks, when I prayed over two scrolls both were converted. But now I know how...

Is there a way to split up scrolls? My meaning is if I have two scolls of remove curse is there a way I can keep one and then use the other to get Ash to give me more curse items?

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