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mopl wrote:
Airwolf wrote:Props for recognizing the vital importance of skill titles generally and Invocations titles in particular.
Thanks ! Then you'll probably enjoy this.

Ha! I worked on an earlier version of that.

Just go kill stuff a bit more cautiously than usual and you'll be fine.

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Grinding is its own punishment.

@VeryAngryFelid: Great link, thanks! I think the highlights are these: ⋅ [A]t very low skill levels, the value of base damage and enchantment is approximately the same, but for skilled characters base damage is much more important than enchantment. ⋅ Weapon brands that use multi...

No, don't train Necromancy.

Props for recognizing the vital importance of skill titles generally and Invocations titles in particular.

Yes, use the vamp exec axe now and train up to 26 Aces soonish. It's game-breaking good.

Good work! In general, do not worry about mutations, but especially since you have 5 potions of mutation. Most malmutations are just annoying. When you get a bad one or too many annoying ones, quaff a potion of mutation. If you're worried about it, you can put an angel/daeva between you and the malm...

Like Stonar said, it's very impressive that your instincts were to stop and ask for advice. Tomb:3 is maybe the hardest level in the game, especially without a big stack of scrolls of blinking. That said, you got the door open and worship TSO, which makes the situation not doomed. Mennas definitely ...

Hahaha! R.I.P.

Spellpower also increases accuracy...

Spellpower is good.

Yeah, more Int, Fire, and Spellcasting, but don't neglect Fighting and Dodging. Bolt of Fire and Orb of Destruction are great, both being full LOS (BoF only with Vehumet) but OoD taking a few tirns to arrive. I like to also add Bolt of Cold for extended since some monsters are resitant to fire but n...

Your solution is obviously better than mine. I don't play enough stabbers...

Before reading your spoiler, I'd blink back to the square SE of the door and try to fight from there until things start looking bad, at which point I'd blink or walk to the upstairs, fight from there as long as I could, then escape up. Hopefully, I'd kill enough monsters that I'd feel OK going back ...

Thanks for the detailed strategy. On step 1: I walk to one of the doors immediately after coming downstairs, so that I spend as little time as possible without being able to use a blink scroll to the stairs. (Once you've opened a door, the next time down you are in a better position: you can blink t...

If it doesn't work, you need to hit the keyboard with your head *harder*.

I've never tried Statue Form and short blades. Hopefully someone else will answer.

I did forget to add that aux attacks help, especially Vine Stalker and Vampire's vampiric bite attacks.

Congrats on the win! Looks like a fun one. Gozag's gold aura causes distraction for stabbing. Dith makes it easier to go unnoticed for sleep and unnoticed stabs, and his shadow mimic very occasionally distracts, iirc. Oka & Trog give you needles of confuse/paralyze/sleep/frenzy. Fedhas & Ru,...

Thanks for this thread: it was very informative.

I also appreciate that you recognize the most importance priority for skills training: Invocations skill titles!

From https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b41cb9a525b3771ed35dea8422314bec66e4578b Buff Vampire's tooth (gammafunk) The gimmick (100% of damage comes as vampiric heal) only works on a weapon that's able to do some damage. This patch changes it from a +4 dagger to a +12 quickblade. The quick attack ...

Zin's Recite is also amazing at high Invocations. And he keeps you from having to micro-manage malmutators.

Pain short blades are great, too: allies setup distraction stabs.

FeVM! FeVM! FeVM!

I vote QDS and shield.

I think any of the body armour except the the scale mail are good. I like shields for more defense, too.

Punk is very strong.

18.5 -> 0 is an incredible amount of draining. For sanity's sake, don't let it get that bad. As a last resort, read a scroll of teleport to disengage at some point. To answer your question, a hell branch is probably good advice, but coming upstairs with a fiend and 0 skill seems quite bad. I know th...

I don't use wands enough, but Nessos and Sonja are the reason that Beogh created wand of paralysis/polymorph.

Well done!

You won, so you obviously did fine.

27 is a lot of Translocations for Blink!

stoneychips wrote:Probably this is simply way over my head...

Lost the first ghoul on D:12.

Ghoul seems like a good choice.

This seems like it'd be easier for a stabby Spriggan than a Mi/HO/Gr.

I know we abuse code tags around here, but ...

Wow, great gear, too!

While I agree that Vehumet is not very strong compared to other gods, remember that this is partly because gods are very strong these days. Giving Vehumet an early buff would be a bit of power creep for gods in general. Not that this is automatically a bad thing — I can't speak to whether the devs ...

I play just for the chance at PDS like that.

Protection is not bad for a Dr.

Poison breath is strong at this point of the game. Use it.

Okawaru's Heroism and Finesse are great. Heroism you should use in every non-trivial fight and Finesse in the tough fights. I like about 10 Invocations soon for a bit more reliability and duration.

Tomb is very hard, but is predictable. The rest of extended is generally easier than Tomb, but has some much nastier spikes that are less predictable. The non-random bosses are predictably tough, but be very careful with the major demons and random PanLords. They generally go down pretty easy, but t...

They both should be fine. There's no need to switch God's on the DD, but consider switching weapons as vamp is almost completely useless in extended.

Scroll of noise is pretty meh as a harmful item, too.

Pick a #*$& god!

This is a good question and I look forward to the answers but ...
... Dowan and Duvessa are *not* normal or sane!

Perfect. Don't overestimate your melee—keep casting Death Channel etc—and everything should keep going ok.

hannobal wrote:Deprecate: Using air magic, flying, weapons of elec and air evocables instead of digging (Cellus prefers that you keep your feet on the ground).

Please, no. Dith just had the anti-fire conduct removed, to much rejoicing.

That seems like a great run for your first time in extended.

Pan is not too different from the Hells. Tomb is different and nasty, so be careful there next time.

Silence doesn't do anything to demon casting. Dispel Undead does really hurt. You just gotta kill the casters. Big spells like Tornado help. Makhleb's HP on kills helps too: when your HP is low, you can fire off a Shatter/Ignition/Fire Storm/Glaciate to kill a bunch of popcorn for HP. You probably g...

Yeah, aren't the various gargoyle monsters similar?

That guy looks really strong and well setup for extended. If you want to and can tolerate a death, go for it. Poison Arrow still works on demons, but less effectively, so I'd think about amnesia for that. With OoD & Crystal Spear, Iron Shot doesn't have much of a niche, so I'd amnesia that. I th...

That efreet's scimitar is an upgrade over your long sword.

Gifts drop your piety, IIRC, so you're just not seeing the time at 6*. Like fingolfin said, it doesn't matter at all.

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