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Ijyb has killed me twice lately with single hits from +6 and +9 clubs. I've learned I should probably pick up his club if I don't have something better by then. He has yet to arrive armed for me. Unarmed with a Wand of Digging, twice. I am seeing way too many weapons on the floors and unarmed orcs ...

When you Polymorph Other a rat into a boggart with your newly acquired wand on dungeon level 2 and the boggart is summoning crap that the rat couldn't have even comprehended, you know there is something wrong with the spell. Granted, the worm I polymorphed into a centaur gave me some nice centaur xp...

Getting more nutrition from eating uncut corpses might be cool.

Uh...why do you want to keep them from splitting up? Killing a titanic slime creature actually gives you less experience than killing five normal ones, according to the Gretell knowledge bot. Had no idea. The large dump of XP seemed a lot larger than several small dumps. Sort of like how when you w...

Also, why an artificer?

I've hit the holy angel ziggurat level and I gotta say, way too many undefensible smite attacks. I can't possibly imagine an entire level or two like that.

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree. Ijyb is the most dangerous unique in the game. You tend to notice him a lot more after he breaks a few of your streaks. Maybe in 0.7, but in trunk lately he's been nothing but a wimp. He appears, generally unarmed (I'm getting unarmed orcs on late dunge...

I stopped using bows for my Spriggans and am strictly slings now.

Uh...why do you want to keep them from splitting up? Killing a titanic slime creature actually gives you less experience than killing five normal ones, according to the Gretell knowledge bot. Had no idea. The large dump of XP seemed a lot larger than several small dumps. Sort of like how when you w...

Now trying to find my way out of Pan the hard way - I have a quarterstaff of Distortion, but I'm curious to see how long it takes before I lose patience. It's not so bad, just learn to recognize the pan lord dungeon sections and avoid them (they're usually big squares with openings on the corners o...

You don't have to cure it, but if you manage to get the Clarity mutation (which I tend to get pretty often paired with Berserkitis), you won't Berserk. I had this situation for a while, but didn't realize it since I received Clarity first, then berserkitis. Thought it was a bug. I eventually cured ...

slyker wrote:I learned that you can read manuals while in a Trog induced rage. Bonus points because it was a manual of translocations.

Not in trunk / 0.8x going forward.

Reported it a while back (Bug link).

joellercoaster wrote:Tomb is hard.

Gave that some proper emphasis.

I wouldn't mind seeing a rare Potion of Strong Mutation, which might allow one to access/acquire Demonspawn and racial mutations.

Here's my latest character's mutation set, so I'm clearly on the side of awesome: A: antennae 3, claws 3, hooves 3, carnivore 1, cold resistance 1, deformed body 1, demonic guardian 3, deterioration 2, magic resistance 3, +10% hp, slow metabolism 1, spit poison 1, 60% torment resistance, AC +4, SH ...

What does increasing SB beyond 14 do? Does it apply additional chance to hit?

How does mutation resistance work? I have the mutation mutation resistance 1 And I am also wearing an amulet of resist mutation. Do they stack? How can I tell? The only thing I see is a + next to Res.Mut. (trunk) and that is only when I am wearing the amulet. Should the amulet affect drinking a poti...

ryak wrote:That would also be problematic for anyone who kills the hydra by cutting off all its heads with a flaming blade.

That'd be why I wanted to know because that is my usual tactic to kill them.

zasvid wrote:I question how a tiny faerie can draw a bow.

Think CUPID.

Also it's not like they can use LONG bows.

Yeah, this one seems to kill each Crawl player exactly once (my own rite of slime passage (no pun intended) was fairly recent). Big slimes are scary, but hey, at least they can be coaxed into separating again eventually! Once you know to respect the snotballs, they're a good source of XP :D How do ...

So what's the deal, does electric brand cause noise or no? Every time I use it, monsters show up.

To me, my limited experiences with a Ziggurat is pretty much an arena where you have to fight your way to the exit to either leave or continue onward to harder battles.

I don't see how this is too much different in concept and might be better served with development of more unique ziggurat levels.

Killed an elephant today.

Trog immediately gifted me "an ivory dagger".

:-)

<3 Trog <3

Does a hydra yield more experience based on how many heads it has, or how many it has when it dies, or is it a constant amount?

Can I artificially inflate my reward by cutting up a hydra to 20(27) heads, then fireballing it?

Are there restrictions to wielding Holy branded weapons? If so, you'd think the weapon would affect those that can't wield them.

In your spreadsheet, I am not sure the holy brand applies correctly against monsters. I think it is doing extra damage against non-undead. I could be wrong though.

I found a pretty cool +2 / +7 Scimitar of Holy Wrath early on and am up against some orc priests. Now, while I understand the HW only works against demons/undead, it is blessed by the Shining One - you'd think it would also apply against those who don't worship the Shining One, like priests and/or d...

Idiots guide to mele characters: play Trog. If it's tough, 'zerk. If you're hurting, Trog's hand. If it's scary, Brothers in Arms. PROTIP: If you are going to do it, always do Trog's Hand / Brothers in Arms BEFORE you 'zerk, otherwise you can't while 'zerking. Big fan of the Spriggan Berserker here.

mageykun wrote:Now I've got quick blades of stabbing, flame, frost, distortion, chaos, and draining. Just a few more until I complete the set!

Is there such a thing as a quick blade of speed? Seems redundant.

I got Captain's Cutlass and could not decide between it and a -2 +8 Quick Blade of fire with a ton of resistance brands.

Also had no idea Cutlass was a SHORT BLADE as there is really nothing to indicate that it is so.

Facts as I know them: Rings of regeneration and troll hides both cause regeneration at the cost of hunger.

My questions:

1 - is the hunger equal on both?

2 - Is increased hunger only caused during times of regeneration use (while healing), or is it constant?

3 - How bad is the hunger cost?

Did you clear Pandemonium and kill Cerebov? You need his sword for ultimate score.

Stack all your runes on the top exit step with several of those discs of storms.

Random uselessness in desperation can sometimes yield a summon butterflies effect.

In trunk (vs 0.7) he keeps spawning with pretty much nothing, or if nothing maybe a wand if he's lucky.

Otherwise barehanded, with nothing. Not much of a challenge.

I just had him spawn, in trunk, with a wand of DIGGING. Now that's just sad.

I sacrificed a ton of scrolls to build a +1/+2 up for a +6 Demon Blade to sacrifice to a trove for... armor. Got a +0 cloak of preservation out of it at least, which I bumped up to +2.

minmay wrote:Also, a tip: if you need to banish yourself with a distortion weapon, don't do it by unwielding unless time is a big issue.

But then you lose the weapon.

If you have cTele then you can cancel the effect of the teleport trap, pick up the weapon, then teleport yourself out again. It probably won't be worth the effort, anyway (although saying that, I got a katana of pain with rF+ and rC+ from that vault a while ago). Oh right, cancel. I kept thinking I...

MarvinPA wrote:Repeatedly try and teleport onto it with cTele.

How will that work if the tile I'm going to also has a teleporter on it? I'll never be able to pick up the weapon.

Repeatedly try and teleport onto it with cTele. Or cast LRD anyway. LRD? Lee's Rapid Deconstruction Cool. Let's say I have a berserker. How am I going to get that one under my belt? Why don't wands of disintegration work like this? They seem like "weaker" wands of digging with the option ...

I see a lot of mention of distortion-brand weapons. Is that the easiest way to get out of Pan? Are the exits there as rare as in Abyss? (I've not tried those levels before so I have no idea :D ) There are perpetual exits to other Pan levels, but once you leave a level of Pan, you can't get back to ...

mageykun wrote:Right now I'm hard up for one manual of fighting. Not for the usual, hp related reasons, but because an incredibly cruel trove decided it would really like to eat one.

Did you use it three times at least before sacrificing it?

MarvinPA wrote:Repeatedly try and teleport onto it with cTele. Or cast LRD anyway.

LRD?

Because elves can be bad enough without handing them a +7+13 longsword of electrocution for example. True. Good point. But wouldn't this be a weapon you'd like to keep? Spriggan == Sneak, even if melee. Electrocution == NOISY. I love these guys. I had a -2 +8 Quick Blade of Slicing and later got th...

Since fighters are the defensive role, why don't Troll fighters start with armor? This would eliminate the issue of them having to turn off dodging and spend their first 20 levels looking for something to wear that trains their armor skill and GOD FORBID *protects* them. Not sure there really exist...

Last time I got to Hall of Blades, there was a transparent double-sword surrounded on all sides by clear walls and sitting on a teleporter.

As a berserker of Trog, how was I to get this item?

I have a buckler; can I skill up enough to avoid a missiles penalty? I think bows and crossbows have a speed penalty regardless of your shield skill. If you want ranged attacks and shield, use a sling. Is there a calculation for it, or are you certain it's a flat penalty amount? You'd think the spe...

The problem with Blade is, unless you are really strapped for a +2/+2 Melee of Whatever, which is unlikely by the time you make it to the Hall of Blades, other than the XP, the reward isn't worth the trouble.

Should have several artifacts in there instead.

Search for distortion weapons and you'll find that Lugonu altar right quick.

Otherwise Nemelex is fun and close enough to Xom for your tastes if you have equipment slots and want to run back and sacrifice a ton of things.

Flaming swords, summons, arrows and running away a lot work for me.

What levels do I really need my Armor Skill and Shield Skills at to avoid penalties?

For example, I tend to wear hides and robes. Anything?

I have a buckler; can I skill up enough to avoid a missiles penalty?

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