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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-2171-ga91b4ec (webtiles) character file. 517510 celem the Warrior (level 24, 94/241 HPs) Began as a Demonspawn Gladiator on Oct 18, 2015. Was the Champion of Ashenzari. Starved to death ... while paralysed ... on level 1 of the Realm of Zot on Oct 26, 2015. ...

Ahh thats a nice Faerie DA for an Ogre, and certainly a fantastic GSC.

I also quite agree on the Large Rocks, they are devestating, especially with Oka topping up the supplies, I've not tried to PProj them but might have to, thats one hell of a smite-style attack.

Ahh the bennu is the one who resurrects. You kill him, he fireballs, then he rises like a pheonix and you get to kill him again with another fireball death-throe. Normally its an annoyance or a threat, but when you are using his death fireball to burn mummies its mainly fun

Second, I disagree with the poster above me. The purpose of Conjurations is to kill stuff from far away, which you will notice is the same purpose as Throwing. I totally see what you are saying there, but following a god that doesnt gift and being a race that cant throw a javelin makes you very lim...

I didnt find dancing Tomb 3 as ^Chei much of a problem to be honest, especially with some rTorm and rRot. The initial Tomb3 spawn often contains some bennu, who are not only super-slouchable, but will aoe the mummy pack for you in the process and resurrect so you can pull off the trick again, tends ...

Ooook... I ran into something that is definitely new since my last trunk run and am soliciting solutions... So I went straight from the last dump into Depths which is now cleared down to 5. No major issues beyond this nasty surprise on 3... WTF can I do to deal with Juggernauts? There are two awake ...

I'd be tempted to pick up an offensive conjuration rather than rely purely on the stab and thrown. When playing Halflings I ran much the same style as you, slings and shortblades, transferring into thrown as the game progressed (below about 10 skill slings are superior, above about 10 thrown becomes...

Well, I battered my way through the rest of Vaults to 4 and picked up a neat upgrade to my MR ring then headed off to Elf 1 for that elec long sword. Hall of Blades was a bit nasty, the better base damage allowed me to drop dancing weapons, but still an ineffective brand and horrible slow attacks at...

Some spells could definitely be handy. This late on with your low Int you dont want to be chasing some huge ambitious project that will take to the Orb to get online (unless your 15r plan revolves around said spell). Personally I'd learn Flight and Ozu's Armour straight up and train charms to power ...

Woo, I'm back to DCSS after a few months break and my first attempt is going quite smoothly. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-2122-g03d97ec (webtiles) character file. celem the Warrior (Demonspawn Gladiator) Turns: 79166, Time: 06:32:23 Health: 187/187 AC: 20 Str: 17 XL: 20 Next: 53% Magic: ...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1394-gde347b4 (webtiles) character file. 5289775 celem the Middleweight Champion (level 27, 253/253 (256) HPs) Began as a Ghoul Monk on June 10, 2015. Was the Champion of Makhleb. Escaped with the Orb ... and 8 runes on June 16, 2015! The game lasted 10:51:3...

I think the only place you see this is torment. If the player is rTorm then nothing even attempts it.

Yeah but he does mention not being a fan of backtracking, so dropping something he will want again at any point hurts. Thats a point actually. Like the OP I throw stuff at just about every monster in the dungeon lately, so I'm also carrying loads of ammo types. But as bel says, I want them for Zot, ...

Yeah it feels like its got a pretty good power level. If something is going to shrug off a discord then it had a fair chance of shrugging off a targeted Hex in my experience. Its a pretty wicked capstone Hex, I enjoyed using it immensely and it will run right through to the end of 3-rune. You do wan...

Aww, I hardly ever did V:5 without it. Might EHatch it, but its been a long time since I did silver in a 3-rune already.

byrel wrote:Nope, Falchion is the only long blade that's one-handable by spriggans.

Bah...badwiki, guess it was a while since I did the Spriggans.

Your freeze dagger is not too bad in the Lair as you say, the slowing can be helpful. You are quite right to be concerned about the later monsters. The GD is definately going to laugh at you as will much of Vault/Depths. Yes, rapier of midnight is your current 'can opener'. As far as im aware you sh...

jmmainvi wrote:Not sure how it interacts with trog's hand.... but regardless, he's playing an ogre not a troll, unless I'm crazy.

Hah, no. Its clearly me thats crazy, he is indeed an Ogre... I must be pretty tired.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1382-gc46a074 (webtiles) character file. celem the Brawler (Ghoul Monk) Turns: 66701, Time: 06:06:56 HP: 182/196 (199) AC: 42 Str: 19 XL: 23 Next: 96% MP: 45/45 EV: 24 Int: 18 God: Makhleb [******] Gold: 1366 SH: 17 Dex: 20 Spells: 4 memorised, 35 levels lef...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1020-ge683cc4 (webtiles) character file. nordetsa the Bludgeoner (Ogre Berserker) Turns: 24060, Time: 02:50:52 Health: 175/201 AC: 14 Str: 29 XL: 17 Next: 6% Magic: 14/17 EV: 17 Int: 3 God: Trog [*****.] Gold: 2047 SH: 0 Dex: 14 Spells: 0 memorised, 16 level...

The defenses help against ranged attackers anyway, before you engage in melee. Yup. Came out of spider and into Vaults where I had a 'Bad Time' with my low MR and poor ranged defence. Went and got the gloves and theres a marked difference, came up to 17 EV from 12 which is very useful against the l...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1378-g281efdd (webtiles) character file. celem the Brawler (Ghoul Monk) Turns: 46553, Time: 03:38:15 Health: 139/163 AC: 30 Str: 18 XL: 18 Next: 82% Magic: 22/22 EV: 12 Int: 11 God: Makhleb [******] Gold: 3225 SH: 0 Dex: 13 Spells: 3 memorised, 18 levels lef...

Not sure if it was right to invest in Dodging. I like that you think you invested. Your dodging was low to be perfectly honest, even when allowing for GDA. You have there a good body armour, nice and strong 46AC. But you dodge like a brick and I bet you ate a lot of bolts towards the end. I'd have ...

[distort...]I guess I need to watch for those better. When it comes to distortion weapons I'm right there with you. Banished plenty because I didn't notice them. I'd recommend tweaking your settings to highlight it better. A force more would make you hit enter once you've spotted them, or you could...

Yeah, hate shock serpents. You've either got rElec and forget they are ever a threat or you dont and it becomes peak threat in Snake for many characters. Zapping them with attack wands isnt too helpful unless you invested somewhat into Evo, they are not a knockover and will use up a lot of charges, ...

Cast in this case is the verb. (to throw) Cast into the Abyss by a Mystic (its how its phrased in the notes). So yeah, must have been a distort blade as Mystics dont know Banish. And in that case, yes, a robe would have helped avoid that banishment vs a DA by virtue of EV. I probably would have held...

Nice, I've been trying that combo a bit lately. Oka sure is wicked on a UC user. Also interesting to see you found it to work well in plate, in a version with attack delays for UC in hvy armour. I also find that the encounters mentioned in the dump are often somewhat trivial, and the real tough meet...

Cant answer on what happens if a Monk joins at one of these altars.

But yes, otherwise. Random god, some starting piety. Seems to be a few checks to make sure you dont get an unworshippable god (for your species)

Patch thread, here

Nothing wrong with it. Yes its probably better than confuse, you get stabbability and the guy holds still. I always used to carry confuse over paralysis because I rather enjoyed making stuff drown with the former, but its probably not optimal and im not sure how that works now that the player-side o...

It's hard to rest when you are attacked all the time. Being extremely unstealthy makes it even worse. You can mitigate that by throwing stones and luring enemies, but we all know how fun that is (not). Throwing stones is really boring yes, throwing rocks is another thing entirely and a barrel of la...

Ok, I probably wouldnt ever swap anything for an aux slot either. I really cant think of an item i'd make that trade for. Even if I find something I must carry I'd drop something else. Chunks is always first, I can eat off the floor, Permafood is another favorite, or the least powerful wand i'm hold...

Sar wrote:When I play IE, I get Ice Beasts much, much earlier than Throw Icicle..

Yeah I think I've been racing ice and conjurations and relying on frost/freeze/melee. Might have to give this route a go, they are very strong for when you can get them up.

I apologize if you think this is mean, but it blows my mind that anyone would fail at something 500 times for fun. I think your focus should be on getting tactical advice and improving rather than new combos. To be clear, I thanked for this mostly. Yeah, I'll take that as you meant it, no offence m...

Hey all, I need some suggestions... I have this thing where I only play the species I havent won yet, and it's starting to bum me out. I really want to go back and play some of the species that I enjoyed, but brain bugs are brain bugs. Thing is the ones I got left are either the ones I find dull or ...

Congrats mate!

Checked your online scoring out of curiosity, thats three species you've won first run. Very nice work.

The really stupid thing I just noticed is that they are this dumb even when its just them that is invis, not you. I'm heading down a very long 1-wide corridor, it ends in a room with orc pack, wizards, warrior, normal orcs. I retreat back down the corridor from the warrior who gives chase. Behind hi...

Well your mistake was drinking blood to full or alive. As I mentioned up thread, vampires heal even at near bloodless, its just slow. Help it along. One potion of blood is just about right for me, it trips you bloodless to about very thirsty, at which point yes you lost rTorm, but you still have dec...

Firstly: I didnt take my VpEn into extended, so I've not tested them under these conditions. Upto 3-runes, as you mention, Vp is awesome, its my fastest win. They are obnoxiously good at a couple of skills that make that stage of the game a cakewalk (Stealth/Hex). Beyond that I can certainly see how...

Unless you worship Ash...

Then they just hurt.

it's been a while for me since actually using a sling but throwing and slings both seemed to wreck a lot of face with chei stats a few versions ago. Yeah sling works too, its actually the only ranged option Te dont have +1 apt for (0), but i'd normally use one on a thrower to make stones worth firi...

What is SfT? Step from Time. I assumed it was a common abbreviation, think I got it from GlassGo. Guess no Chei-relevant abbreviation can ever really be 'common' since hes not everyone's favorite deity. edit: I actually found it hard to squeeze in Invocations. I tried to pick it up earlier after th...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1262-gd250d98 (webtiles) character file. 1638074 celem the Grand Master (level 27, 180/180 HPs) Began as a Tengu Monk on June 4, 2015. Was the Champion of Cheibriados. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on June 6, 2015! The game lasted 09:03:09 (87264 turn...

You throw a stone. The stone hits the fire giant! _The fire giant picks up a scroll of identify. Now I'm confused. Behaviour seems to have recently changed yet again in Trunk. Monsters are picking up seen items, I noticed a bunch of mobs earlier reading scrolls of summoning, which i assumed they ha...

If any non-artifact left on the floor can be eaten then we're right back to the L:2 stash. I'm an L:2 stasher playing 0.16 and I dislike it. In what version does this jelly change occur? Its a trunk thing I think, ie 0.17. Like you I was an L:2 stasher, now I just drop stuff in clumps on various du...

Makes sense. Dont we already got something similar for wands? 'The X zaps a wand. It is a wand a fire. The bolt of fire hits you. Ouch! You die...'

The Katana in itself is a quality weapon. I had a character take it as primary weapon into Zot 5, primarily because its the beefiest thing a Halfling can 1-hand. Never a bad choice for a Lbl user; its a faster, more accurate demonblade.

Now I'm tempted to make a TeTm with statue form just because they're thematically opposed to transmutations/earth ;) I found stat form really early for the latest ^Chei run and its always been lurking at the back of my head since I read your melee naga guide as an edge option. They are a really poo...

Heh, somewhere an Electric Golem is posting a YAVP and feeling really pleased with himself.
Sucks to die that close, but double-zapped unresisted by an electric golem will usually do it. I always feel a little stunned when I die in Zot, just doesnt happen so often, but can be brutally quick.

Yes the change where a jelly wont eat what you have seen is made necessary by the stashing side of the equation. If any non-artifact left on the floor can be eaten then we're right back to the L:2 stash. Jellies eating something you wanted infront of your eyes would be fine, and fun. But we cant rea...

I dip into Elf 1, planning to check for a shop. Shafted into Hall of Blades, start ?tele spam, bail down to 3 as I'm gathering a crowd and cant find a stair up. Land in sight of vault, attempt to withdraw, hit by LCS, ?tele spam. First one lands in the middle of the vault, second one lands in the ac...

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