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A staff of energy does a lot more than MPregen+ though. MRregen+ gives 0.2 mp/turn, whereas a staff of energy gives about 2mp/turn (just guessing based on what it felt like) . well, there's your problem staff of energy should go though, or just have its effect changed to mp regen instead of having ...

Haste hasn't given contamination ever since the spell got removed.

b0rsuk wrote:I'm sure you'd rather degenerate a Nicola than let him zap you when you lack electricity resistance.

I degenerated Nikola into a Iron Giant so I'm not sure if this is entirely true.

It happens rarely in older versions as well but it's intended.

Regarding duvessa's question about other movedelay effects on Fo: In my opinion, chei/flash freeze/ponderous/shallow water are okay, under the interpretation that adding challenge to a challenge species is not a bad thing. Form spells in current versions of DCSS should be fine, given that forms don...

I never found necromutation, even after opening a trove. Not being being able to worship Kiku, there just was no way to get it. Your spell library contained the following spells: Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger ... Lehudib's Crystal Spear Conj/Erth #####..... 100% 8 ####### Necromutation Tmu...

Rast wrote:
petercordia wrote:I just had the experience of "you open a door" -> "you fall through a trap". It felt ridicules

Is this possible with current trap system:

1. Read fog scroll.
2. Walk a couple steps forward into the fog.
3. Wait for fog to dissipate
4. Trap triggers!

Yes.

Rast wrote:FR: Monster stepping on a net trap should net the player.

This is the current behaviour.

1 - Why do I have to press > to go down and < to go up? As far as I know there are no bi-directional stair options. And why don't we use a key that makes a bit more sense for such a common key? I have to hold down shift as well, which is annoying. I mean if you drop the separate up/down key require...

I think I gave good reasons to prefer melee-style targeting to arbitrary ranged targeting in my opening comments on the thread. yes, your argument is that ranged UI is bad. your proposed solution is "ranged targeting should be automated so it can be done in a single keypress", which is un...

this argument is significantly different from saying "remove targeters" though. your original proposal sounds closer to something like "remove manual melee attacking and make tab the only method of melee combat", while this: For my argument, the key difference between the games I...

It's kind of frustrating having an argument where the opposition turns on puns and misreadings. Obviously in what I have posted position is used in the broad sense encompassing all aspects of the player state with respect to the environment and monsters, as opposed to other aspects like player stat...

Does this only apply to god gifts, or should the same logic be applied to scroll acquirement (which I understand is similar to the god gifting algorithm)? Armour acquisition when you only have a 1H melee weapon equipped tends to gift a shield, even if you have zero skill, unless you also equip a sh...

no time passes after you passwall so it's impossible for a monster to make a stealth check. if your passwall destination contains a monster, you will forcibly move it and wake it up

enslavement is basically a wand that kills a low MR monster and gives you a ally. for example try enslaving a hasted and mighted deep troll

VeryAngryFelid wrote:We don't put packs of orbs of fire on Depths:1, do we?

no, we put packs of caustic shrikes (which were explicitly designed as "killer bees of depths")

if you see a monster and it didn't wake up, you can just reposition yourself to stab it. if you're a formicid, you can detect them. in any case I memorize passwall immediately because it's effectively a safe teleport if you're using it correctly to get stone arrow the moment it's available just requ...

why is memorizing an escape spell a newbie trap

that sounds terrible for backtracking

ok, to improve triple draw we will make it draw five cards instead of three, which should increase the chance of not getting useless cards. then as an additional buff we will also let you use all five drawn cards, so the player doesn't feel bad when they draw five amazing cards. since a player is un...

you were at full health and about 60%-70% MP. to watch, go to ##crawl (or message sequell), type !lg delarado xl>20 -tv and click the link to shalott it gives

I think Tzitzimils are just a bugger all around. I'm not sure whats more of a threat - dispel undead or torment (And they have both) i'll give you a hint: only one of these two effects can actually kill the player (assuming they're not wearing harm) anyway here's the breakdown on how you died: you ...

Treeform UC is 12 base damage at 1.0 base delay with a +10 STR bonus. A quarterstaff is 10 base damage and 1.3 base delay, so you need to reduce it to 0.8 delay just for the base damage per aut to be at least as good as treeform UC assuming no enchantment, which is 10 skill. Weapon skill does provid...

Thanks, that's quite interesting. I see a decent amount of melee, with a dagger, even. I suppose that's confuse stabs? I do love confuse even with melee chars, in addition to being a great disabler, it can split groups, hinder their movement and completely changes the tactical picture. Come to thin...

instead of saying "I'm not going to use LRD in open terrain because it seems like a bad idea" you should actually use it in open terrain to see if it's a bad idea. the bad thing about noise is that it alerts nearby monsters but if you're fighting in an area you've already explored that's f...

Here is an explicit comparison for why you shouldn't train Shields to improve spellcasting. A buckler/shield/large shield imposes a penalty of 1.5/5/8.5 skill to your spell schools (i.e. your fail rates are calculated as if your spell school skills were reduced by that number), so every skill of shi...

Edit: nevermind

monsters do not spawn after initial generation anymore

bel wrote:And can adders generate on D:1?

they can't (except for decorative purposes in entry vaults)

CanOfWorms wrote:
Code:
Y - the ring of the Duke (right hand) {Wiz rN+ Int+3} You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon.

dukes are basically mages right

in a different game:

Code:: the ring "Leropre" {Wiz rN+ Int+3} (4750 gold)

Having to cast buffs after you cast transmutations is "brutal"? I mean It's a nerf, but I wouldn't categorize it as 'brutal' I mean you have 2 forms that explicitly give a wizardry penalty The joke is that transmutations are status-giving self-targeting spells, so if read literally, your ...

Siegurt wrote:Expire all status-giving self-targeting spells (but not consumables or hostile enchantments) when you remove, wear or meld any equipment (jewelry and weapons included)

brutal transmuter nerfs

Code:: Y - the ring of the Duke (right hand) {Wiz rN+ Int+3} You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon.

dukes are basically mages right

You can't get any mutations from mutations potions under zin, so they behave just like cure mutation potions.

Kobolts can use crossbows to stab critters relatively effectively, right? I mean, with high stealth & crossbow skill, the 1st shot should deal double damage, which is more important for crossbows than for longbows because crossbows have a higher base damage. I say 'should' because I haven't pla...

The bailey vault axe is actually encased in unbreakable stone if I'm remembering what you're talking about. You can't ever get it, even with Shatter.

orbs of fire are not particularly good at killing malign gateways to begin with given that eldritch tentacles have fire immunity (amongst other immunities.)

it's a shame necromancers don't get a spell in the starting book that let them heal while damaging monsters, that could really help with their survivability. in your situation it wouldn't even matter if it only worked in melee, since naga sharpshooters don't have a higher damage output in melee comp...

every mage start other than summoner has a spell that ignores EV, so they don't actually need sunlight

you're still not answering the main issue, which is "does having controlled blink memorized and castable somehow reduce the power level of a mage character?" should players avoid learning utility spells because it "reduces their power level"?

Even if the mage can manage the MP cost by saving enough MP to use the god abilities as well as his spells, it's making him weaker by forcing him to cast fewer spells. Therefore it makes the god weaker and less attractive for the mage, while the MP cost is mostly irrelevant to the brute. god powers...

draw out power's draining cost is negligeable and refunds itself very quickly.

hmm, controlled blink costs mp but for some mysterious reason, it's still learned by mage characters for extended. perhaps players playing mage characters... can manage mp?

see also: blink, sticks to snakes, passage of golubria for non-extended examples

my favorite way of doing tomb safely is to not enter it

rigrig wrote:
Siegurt wrote:Two-headed ogrecrawl, all two headed ogres all the time!

Even better: N-headed ogrecrawl, where N is the depth. (Except maybe Lair+branches, which have N-headed hydras)

sounds like it's time to bring the hydrataur out of retirement

dithmenos also gives shadow form, which notably has torment immunity and makes it convenient to steal runes from specific areas

bel wrote:Surely this is a bug? It can't be intentional to provide such a big wiz boost (from 60% failure to 7% failure).

oh you're right, I was testing it on a character wearing plate armor, the failure rate would actually be ~25% with a large shield (7% with regular shield.)

with no sources of wizardry, that deep elf would have a ~60% failure rate for fireball (regular shield raises it to ~20%), that's how strong vehumet's wizardry is. the spell rate change was also added after 0.21 so it has no impact here

no comments on whether or not it's a good idea, but a defe of vehumet can wear a large shield in lair with minimal problem: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.0 (tiles) character file. defe the Arsonist (Deep Elf Fire Elementalist) Turns: 19487, Time: 00:44:33 Health: 78/78 AC: 13 Str: 5 XL: 13 N...

right, but there's an implied "because I find it useful". don't be deliberately obtuse

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