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That first thread about orb running does have some good advice. Now that i'm looking back I didn't use a single scroll of summoning the whole game and was sitting on 11 of them. As i get closer to D:1 they would get worse, right? I suppose I should have blown them all on Zot and Depths? And is scrol...

I just had an orb run which was way too exciting. It felt like I was getting flooded with Pan lords and tormentors. I had plenty of consumables, though I had some bad mutations (slow scrolls and less potion healing) wouldn't go away. It just felt like every floor there was some very fast Pan lord wh...

Yeah, at some point I started to wonder if hitting 0 in all skills was the bottom, but I suspect that getting drained further continues to increase the amount of xp you need to undrain yourself. I thought about Abyss as well, and I had steath once, but then I lost it too :( You forget how much of yo...

I was doing so well until I ran into a Profane Servitor with a whip of draining. I did not realize the danger until several turns into the fight it became unsafe to cast all of my spells. Attempting to run a couple more turns just made things worse. Suddenly I was back to 0 skills, no spells, a +0 s...

I checked out that commit, which was Oct 2015; and it looks like spawns have not changed at all since then. It really is just bad luck on my part. Maybe I'll wait a bit after Lair to start doing Orc.

I splatted an Octopode IE of Hepl last night in Orc:1 which featured 3x Orc Warlords! There were also several orc knights and some high priests around. Admittedly it didn't get bad until I was forced to start using Mephitic Cloud and Lightning Spire, but I was being as stealthy as I could for as lon...

once a monster notices you, you are screwed. Except that when you are stealthy, you can lose the monster just by walking behind a corner. Doing the Abyss with a stealthy char vs. a non-stealthy char is enlightening. This. I was watching one of Demise's videos and was amazed how as soon as he went a...

That is a very cool character; a meleer but with all the good utility spells. Love Octos.

In L:4, was just finishing a fight with Gastronok when Rupert pops into view a few tiles away. I took one step away, and it was the last step I ever took. Rupert roared, I was paralyzed, then he berzerked, ran in and hit me 3 times with some giant branded sword. Down from 90% hp to dead in one actio...

It's a tough call. I'd stick with the leather for now I suppose, since the Mottled Dragon has a bit more encumbrance as well, but I'm starting to get to the point with Ozo's that I'd rather have the extra 3 MP for the fight rather than be better defended once I got OOM and start getting whacked on. ...

I remember watching a youtube series where this guy was trying to win as an Octopode caster. Eventually he just went Assassin just to have a starting blowgun and transitioned to caster after he got his first random spellbook, which is how he eventually got his win. However, this was before needles g...

I agree with this sentiment in general. A few of the challenge races feel difficult because they have low aptitudes, or level slowly. For me recently, I've felt this way about Mu, Dg and Ds, where they'd be great characters if only I could get more XP. The trend towards having less XP available in t...

Without knowing your race or background this'll have to be pretty generalized: This idea of a pure caster meaning that you're going to do all your damage with spells is going to be rough, you're just going to run out of MP and then get pounded. Training up one weapon skill is going to get you a lot ...

Correct, it's the skill which increases the damage. I believe replies are just omitting the "skill" part for brevity.

This makes me wonder if anyone here has ever asked "Should I wear a ring of stealth?"

But if I train armour while wearing light armour and then I start wearing heavy armour, the bonus is the same than if I had trained while wearing the heavy armour, isn't it? That is what I am not getting. I won't be wasting skill points, even if my training is not immediately efficient. The danger ...

Seconding goodcoolguy's suggestion. I've had a lot of fun with DrCj where I wait to lvl 7 before deciding into which elemental schools to branch.

I've been curious about how to survive Xom and thought that keeping him entertained would be helpful. To me, this sounds like species who don't need to rest, like DD or Gh would be an advantage, and keep him happy by using wands of random effects and drinking unID'ed potions in the middle of combat ...

I always leave potions of Ambrosia on the ground but decided to check to see if they regen HP and MP on characters which otherwise cannot, and yes, it tops you off in just a few turns. Very refreshing.

This has been occupying my mind lately as I've been playing a DD Artificer of Pak. I have 3 main weapons I use, one axe with +9 MP, an iron rod, and an antimagic axe so my max-MP changes constantly and I'm not sure I'm optimizing well. However, Pak is also pretty powerful so I haven't had to think a...

I was thinking that those are in line with what you'd find in Vaults, but why as a Troll do you only have 100hp? Oh, this isnt' Vaults, it's D:9. That does seem dangerous, how did you do with it?

That's an amazing weapon for D:4 and should help you to easily get through lair. I would still plan on switching to a 2H weapon at some point because you're a Formicid, but you have plenty of time to look for one. So what Joe said, pump some exp into it for now but that won't keep you tied to M&...

At the very least the Arcane Marksman starting book should have Portal Projectile, and I wouldn't say no to some crappy summons.

Ah, I didn't know that it was based on monster damage. That means GDR is still pretty valuable even as a lowish AC character.

muie is stronger than musu because early dungeon exists For newer players, musu will be a lot easier to understand and use than a muie. muie requires an understanding of how to properly kite enemies and proper positioning, otherwise being successfuly with it can be a struggle. While musu on the oth...

njvack wrote:
Siegurt wrote:overprepare

good V:5 advice if you ask me

This, I've had pretty good success with V:5 if I first clear Elf, Crypt and Depths, in addition to the other 2 Lair branches.

So it turns out that Halflings can't use javelins, which I guess makes it not such a bad thing that I didn't find any until V:3. I also never found any slings which weren't +0 hunting slings. The character basically just turned into your typical Assassin stabber, which I guess is fine. If I were to ...

Well that got me over the hump. I was able to confuse stab some hydras, but first I went back to the Dungeon and Orc where there were plenty of poison susceptible monsters and learned some Skald spells. Also, I just happened to find a randart +4 Rapier of Speed which helped tremendously in the ammo ...

First, I didn't realize that poison resistant enemies are still susceptible to sleeping, confusion and frenzy needles. That should help with hydras. And you're probably right that I'm not going to up my damage enough by investing more skill into throwing that I should ignore spells. At the very leas...

Now that the effect of needles scales with throwing skill in v0.18, I thought I'd try to make a Throwing based character, but not a needle-stabber necessarily. This creates an easy start, but as I clear Lair I now feel very underpowered against anything poison resistant. My backup is anything throwa...

Yes, if you assign your primary weapons to 'a' and 'b', then apostrophe will toggle between them. If you haven't reassigned before, it's dash '-' for the reassignment then 'i' for items, then you choose your weapon, and then hit 'a' or 'b' to make it the new slot. And suddenly I'm remembering the re...

Kudos for thinking ahead. Usually in these posts the character is down to about 25% health and is just a turn or two from dying; this is a good point at which to make the fight or flight decision.

I learned an important lesson today, just because your character can clear Tombs and Zigguarts doesn't mean that Zot will be a walk in the park. Also that Statue Form is real bad in situations where you are just running away. Further, that Firestorm, while an amazing spell, is not very useful when e...

I think Gozag should be ranked way higher in pan/hell/tomb because you should have a massive gear advantage from him by that point. While I agree with the massive gear advantage part, that isn't any reason to stick with Gozag. Imho optimal gozag play is to summon as many shops as possible and then ...

XuaXua wrote:All this chart did for me was make it clear how similar the altars for Dith and Yred are.

That's certainly how I found myself worshipping Yred for the first time. And it turns out I really like him.

Have you found a blowgun? Poison needles take yaks out easily with a normal speed character- a spriggan with a blowgun should trivialize yaks... I'd like to emphasize this advice. I ignored blowguns for a long time because I wasn't training throwing, or they seemed like a lot of work to manage. The...

Say you have a DSWz with mediocre casting aptitudes (all of them) and you've gotten your melee combat to where it needs to for mindelay of a good weapon. Now you have access to every spellbook in the game. What are the most effective spells to train up, and alternatively which spells will be the mos...

AFAIK ignite poison has been changed so you can now only ignite poison in stuff you yourself put there. No more firestorming lite a bee hive, you need to learn poison magic or use poison weapon, so its been reduced in usefulness by about 95%. Yes, can confirm; Ignite Poison does nothing without poi...

I finally got an Octopode off the ground! I found a plethora of shops, with items which have helped me amass 38 int at lvl 12 (just entered lair). First, with this much int, should I start putting stat gains into dex instead of more int? Also, just got Ignite Poison and am about to do lair, I hear g...

Ok, so I still have to be quick about timed portals regardless. I have found that if I have a scroll of mapping for a floor and there is an up staircase near the portal, then it usually is quicker to go back up and try other staircases to quickly travel to the portal without having to fight your way...

I've been curious about how time passes in the game for enemies and for special areas. It's seeming more and more likely that nothing changes on a floor when you're not on it. If there is a group of monsters surrounding a staircase when you escape, will any amount of resting on the floor above give ...

- Spiky, foul stench, powered by pain Defensive mutations, not what I'd call useless even if you mostly cast spells. PbP specifically restores some mana, and agility procs are obviously useful. augmentation Gives spellpower boost. Ah, I didn't know about the MP or spellpower boost. In that case aug...

Demonspawn are my favorite race due to their fun mutations, but in practice I have trouble keeping them from splatting. I think the problem is that usually I try to make them casters or light armor hybrids, and they feel really underpowered in the spell slinging category. When I'm a pure caster, the...

Don't put any xp in stealth please. Stealth is the thing that I invest in because I don't want to walk down a set of stairs and instantly be killed. Having moderate stealth is what lets you survey your location with enough time to go back up your stairs if things are too dangerous. I wouldn't make ...

Weapons are the only thing I leave up to the rng gods, I suppose, but even then I have a preference for trident or demon trident, because you get to hit 3x the number of squares as you would otherwise, which is especially helpful when you have a horde of stumbling, mephed enemies you can dispatch b...

Elf: MR++ (or you'll get banished in Elf:3) Most of the other resistances in your post are rather excessive, but this one isn't - you really want something like MR+++ in Elf (and generally in the endgame), preferably MR++++. Oh yeah, I meant two pips of MR from equipment, on top of your natural MR,...

As others have said, Slime is a dangerous place at the point when you first approach it. The game gets more non-linear the further you go and it's easy to end up in the wrong place. Most people will clear Lair when they first reach it, followed by clearing Orcish Mines, and after that the next targe...

One thing I'd say is if you really want Projectile Portal for your strategy, you may want to start as a background which has it. My last win was a CeHu of Yred and I was planning on doing the wall of summons while I smite-targeted everything to death, but didn't manage to find the spell the entire g...

My one 15-runer was a HEIE of Ash that also transitioned into Translocations for Singularity (when it was still in the game). It felt noticeably less squishy than a DE but still really good at magic so I had a tool for everything, and Ash is just the best. I'd recommend it.

I've been trying for a while to beat the game with a CeHu using bows, but damage from arrows feels underwhelming. It's fine for much of the dungeon when I can use hit and run tactics, and I find I can get to the Vaults pretty easily, but it still takes 6-7 shots to kill vault monsters with 20+ Bows ...

I did a Spriggan Enchanter of Goazag in v14.0 and found Bribe Branch to be really useful for Elf:3. I'm probably off on this, but it felt like 30% of the elves were friendly and I had a big group heading into the treasure area, which did most of the work of clearing it out for me. Certainly my easie...

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