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lvl 5 lair is a little harder than 1-4. if i feel my char is weak at that point, i mostly go for orc 1-3 and if i find item upgrades there - checkout orc 4. the most dangerous layout there is the one with lots of casters imo, which i delay. in orc u got good chances of finding armor upgrades and sho...

ah well.. 2 minutes played today splatted it :P did zig.. met silent spectres. killed it even in the middle of some mobs.... then chose cblink instead of ddoor (me moron) when it was down. which was enough for some hellfires to kill me from 90 hp. i know i dont need to do zigs.. but theyre fun for m...

character was technically dead, in a zig lvl 24. made it out with lots of luck and best wishes from observers also mixed up sickness with rotting and wasted all my curing pots in abyss trip. then tried to take on mummies in zigs without necromut. so i had lots of rotting... the rotten octopode :P wa...

switching is ok for a branch / multiple enemies for example a late zig lvl :P not all the time for single enemies ofc. the eudemon blade is good enough. in abyss the vamp sword can be useful imo . so if u have tele/hasting source and rMut amu, and feel comfortable there maybe try to grab abyss rune ...

the eudemon blade is the perfect weapon imo.. vs living u got the bastard sword, vs undead/demon eudemon blade / sacred scourge are the best 1handed standard weapons imo (maybe bastard sword of HW has more knock)

continued yesterday and im at 4 runes now. updated morgue is in the link always i didnt try poison arrow because i wanted to go straight to firestorm and im still not there, had bolt of fire in a book though which already was at 7# so i went with that. poison arrow was tempting but i was also low on...

i also played 0.15 tiles offline, and cleared both zigs. no mimics

ah yea thanks.. found the score page now. its the 2nd try OpEn

im not sure if i have poison arrow, got very few books. but ill look into it when i continue tomorrow. actually poison magic is the one i have no clue about (never bothered using) besides mephitic cloud

http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/P0WERM0DE/P0WERM0DE.txt pretty fun run so far. i wonder why En is not a recommended background for octopode? feels like it is the easiest background(few tries got me here - maybe only 1 dont remember). was pretty fun stabbing from water in swamp :P rune chamber ...

yea i also had 2 zigs in depths lately

playing OpEn atm: x - ring of Jealousy {rF+ Dex+1 Slay+5}

EN has the same int bonus like all caster backgrounds, only wizard has more int. i also went full int for spells lategame. the dex is not needed for stabbing bonus if u use a dagger. ofc dex isnt a bad option if u wanna go more melee type / for dodging. for blink frogs i used confuse on them from so...

thanks to all who are working on this great game, one of the few games of the last years which got me playing numerous hours with fascination. playing since 0.13 but always thought its like nethack (500 pages of spoilers or a quarter lifetime to learn it :P) and very hard (had no clue and no spoiler...

didnt think thoroughly, and dont dare to post in game design :P rite now vehumet is far better than sif imo, so maybe give him/her another gimmick special ability? my thought would be some type of scouting "Sif's eye" ability which should be quite expensive and max piety only, maybe a summ...

short term id go for weapon skill (staves or m&f) and earth/fire to 5 at least (ur main attack spells with 6% fail!?) and stop on spellcasting / conjurations maybe also evocations for wucad mu/crystal ball, u might wanna check at which evo level they get good (crystal ball 15+). (theres a wiki t...

maybe its a gimmick for formicid? shafting on lvl 1 in the southern part to get to that area? carries some risk though :P but dunno how shafting exactly works, how it determines ur position. otherwise seems buggy otherwise shatter+LRD power 8 will do it, but seems outta range for ur char nice setup ...

learnDB: web sense Creatures with this flag (most spiders and Arachne) are alerted when something is caught in a web within 10 squares. i also read somewhere web sense has been changed(nerfed) recently, but dunno which version edit ontopic: maybe OP compares DCSS to roguelikes like tome4 insane+, if...

i think u need 20+ invoc for disaster area to be useful. if u like the low nuke and use it alot thats a plus for invoc (i didnt say dont raise it, but disaster area is really worthless at ~12-15 invoc) shield only for a long game ofc :P but i would never drop it just to wield a great mace on a qazla...

I'm pretty stoked to get as far as I have. This is a pretty strong character and I'd like to try for as many runes as I think I can manage. u should first raise long blades to 14 at least, to reach min delay for scimitar / demon blade. claymore requires lvl 24, and for a great sword i wouldnt toss ...

wow man u got insane items again :P with that demon trident the slaying gloves should be better at the moment i think? only problem is u wont be able to buy the dragon armor then :P id probably prefer fire dragon armor, since with vine stalker u can regain mana points even with okawaru and u could u...

maybe its language barrier, or maybe u dont know !? that vamp weapon doesnt do extra dmg, and pain is one of the highest dmg adds. so it is not surprising for me.

then id definitely go for 25 shields on gargoyle, and go for large shield with qazlal (if u want to play a longer game, not for 3 runes) on reflection topic, i think it is better on high life species because u can risk letting that ancient lich shoot u with a crystal spear, with high blocking/evasio...

yea still u have a smaller teleport range from dith skill, but agreed the advantages outweigh it

yea i know u told me once before :P and i wrote it myself up there. it was some blackout, and i pulled him up from dephts: 1 and had to flee to stairs before thats why it was still on. i even had airstrike in a book in lair:1 in my stash and couldve learned it myself even more stupid to try to hit h...

doesnt ignite blood also ignite blood from enemies? i had the feeling that every ! !! !!! on hits causes more blood to spill.. shadow form also reduces ur own damage done (dont know what exactly u did in wizmode) so it could relate to you doing high damage in ur first game and all blood was from ene...

u still need to know that u sacrifice corpses by praying(p) on them, otherwise commands dont help u :P wiki is good, despite some formulas and numbers, which are outdated. helped me alot edit blink: nvm i only used it for command list for now :P never read the manual, my bad. anyway dont wanna spam ...

mummie priest and greater can smite u, does double dmg vs ghoul?! i dont know i wouldnt do tomb with this character.. there are no bodies at all, enemies are torment immune. ull have to kill every single mummie with dispel undead. the protection from death curses helps if u have a big nuke to take o...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2130-g28e4b74 (tiles) character file. 288230 Osprey the Severer (level 21, -5/132 HPs) Began as a Tengu Air Elementalist on July 29, 2014. Was a High Priest of Okawaru. Killed by the air ... invoked by Sojobo (47 damage) ... on Level 15 of the Dungeon. The g...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2130-g28e4b74 (tiles) character file. 804037 Lorprasn the Axe Maniac (level 27, -10/293 (297) HPs) Began as a Minotaur Chaos Knight on July 25, 2014. Was a Favourite Plaything of Xom. Killed by divine providence ... invoked by a greater mummy (12 damage) ......

i also got pretty annoyed by hunting for blood , while it should be cool gameplay and has flair, it was pretty annoying especially on webtiles where u dont have the mouse, to randomly search the levels :P however with 0.15 u can get around that by choosing Gozag as god, as u can buy blood potion eff...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2130-g28e4b74 (tiles) character file. Lorprasn the Executioner (Minotaur Chaos Knight) Turns: 47800, Time: 03:14:12 HP 138/138 (139) AC 35 Str 22 XL: 16 Next: 68% MP 27/27 EV 14 Int 9 God: Xom Gold 2423 SH 0 Dex 16 Spells: 5 memorised, 3 levels left rFire . ...

thx, topic cleared some stuff up for me

also i figured out now that the STR weight on ranged weapons no longer governs attack speed in 0.15? so it is overall neglibible it seems, couldnt get my head into example values of that formula

i used iron shot with dith + battlesphere, was quite ok:P how about book aquirement is it worth it if u got a high spell school but not the lvl 8-9 spells for it?

gz on the win

and nvm if u dont know/dont wanna answer

i also tried some CeHu and CeAm today, and i think in the long run crossbows might be the better choice for centaur! the biggest one has better base dmg, and centaur has lots of STR so u could go heavy armor + high str (crossbow has better str weight, and centaur has bad EV/spellcasting anyway) if u...

imo scroll of blinking south on the arrows, then scroll of fog if no one can shoot u directly. the balrug can use hellfire too:P then run to stairs (u have boots of running).. heal up when safe this is the main vault of elf 3, if u wanna clear that (good items, but i think much caster stuff?) pull t...

do u know if/how shadow mimic works with glaciate? will it shoot a shadow bolt at each target? ure planning on getting this?

nice run and nice equip! gl for wherever ure going

piety gain depends on monster HD (higher better) and ur char lvl (higher worse) and is a lower chance than other gods i think. not sure why u play deep dwarf, ull have to heal through vampiric touch/weapon, because u wont get regeneration. also kiku gives the necro book anyways, so it might be smart...

dithmenos is a god where u have to watch your piety alot :P i always was afraid of using the last skill because u lose so much power if u go down to ***** - the teleport is already quite expensive - but i guess i dont use god abilities enough anyways... i saw qazlal disaster area on another char who...

crystal ball can easily give u 25+ MP with one use at max evo. usually u cast 3 or 4 lvl 9 spells then use ball and are "almost" full Ä(depending on max mp). i dont know wucad mu in comparison, but if u have clarity, and enough restore pots / intelligence not at the edge i think its quite ...

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2130-g28e4b74 (tiles) character file. 1564753 Pao the Wrestler (level 27, 277/277 (280) HPs) Began as a Troll Fighter on July 23, 2014. Was the Champion of Qazlal. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on July 24, 2014! The game lasted 08:15:40 (88554 turns)....

played 2 more TrFi of qazlal, used ur hints and watched my skill training more exactly :) i raised throwing so high, because i missed really often with that old character. had problems with summoner type of enemies in vaults. new char has ring of slaying and... well its overpowered, rocks hit hard n...

http://i.imgur.com/LcllRGh.png yay still alive :P gameplay is getting more interesting now. i cleared spider, which was ok to manage, then decided to go vaults 1-4 first because in shoals i cant use the large rocks without losing them, and dont have clarity atm, nor flying. also found many large ro...

i dont question that, but if ure looking for information on this game, dont want to dig through forum and dont know learnDB/IRC u dont have other sources :P the 3 guides i mentioned are the ones a noob will most likely try atm, as the melee naga guide says in the beginning its not for noobs for exa...

no i dont think so. maybe its true if u have very high stats or sth? with my gargoyle i tried the earth staff in the end (str and dex ~15), all skills maxed, and still needed like 4 hits for a medium dragon with it, while the air staff could produce 1-2 hits, and fire too if no rF (no slaying, or sl...

to be honest, it seems the reflect rate is >50% .. starting to like the reflection ego :P most orb spiders killed themselves. shields is 13 now and invoc 11(1 too high, forgot to turn off), i only need 14 as a troll right (large shield)? but ill raise it higher anyway as its my main defense atm edit...

i dont question that, but if ure looking for information on this game, dont want to dig through forum and dont know learnDB/IRC u dont have other sources :P the 3 guides i mentioned are the ones a noob will most likely try atm, as the melee naga guide says in the beginning its not for noobs for exam...

checkout the 0.14 minotaur and gargoyle staff melee guides, thats where i got that from (and i guess more ppl, as its the only 0.14 guides in there). and the 0.14 gargoyle wiz also says enhancer staves but prefers fire/air.. which i used, and i can say i killed the ICE boss in hell with like 5-8 hit...

thanks, well the aux armor slots are all unbranded. and qazlal is the blocking god :P i think 35 shield in 0.15 equals like 55++ in older versions.. so my blocking is pretty insane already, thats why i thought about enchanting. but ill try to find swamp/mottled/fire dragon armor now.. will go to spi...

yea the centaur never was a prob for me:P but i walked like 6 tiles into swamp and died horribly as a PIG :P 2 uniques.. and half the map got attracted by the noise. anyway, learned from that. YASD new TrFi of qazlal: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2130-g28e4b74 (tiles) character file. Kal...

i think mephitic cloud is very useful for a troll, at least if the food problem is solved (which it is, with jivia, was engorged all the time). i mostly got problems in lair with ogre/troll because the enemies hit too hard.. thats how i wanted to get around that. still ure correct i should take wha...

i think mephitic cloud is very useful for a troll, at least if the food problem is solved (which it is, with jivia, was engorged all the time). i mostly got problems in lair with ogre/troll because the enemies hit too hard.. thats how i wanted to get around that. still ure correct i should take what...

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