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Why only one type of dragon boss? Get a swamp dragon, it's a marshy dragon portal vault. Get a fire dragon? Fire and lava. Ice dragon? More icy themed. And so forth.

Not even the omnipotent might of the gods is a match for the power of a crappy randart.

In fact, if you can, try enslaving Duvessa and having her kill Dowan. It can be hard to pull off, but it's hilariously mean and very safe. Duvessa will berserk, but will usually calm down before enslave wears off, making her an easy kill.

Not to mention, killing stuff before it kills you aside, training only weapon skills or conjurations does not grant survival tools either. Summon spam can easily maul whatever is on the screen while protecting you from anything not smite or bolt targeted. Being good with an axe or Orb of Destruction...

I'm not really for or against the idea, but just throwing a comment on it. If keeping the delay aspect unique to fire magic is necessary, perhaps make a new spell called "Delayed Flame" or something better than that that's a fire-only school spell and lets you delay any fire spell, whether...

Slime Slurper?

Vault Vandal?

Yeah, don't add that part. It only hides before it attacks. Once it reveals itself, it stays revealed unless you somehow turn it invisible.

Edit: And the idea in mind is it'd zoom out onto land an attempt to bulldoze you, not just sit in the lava.

It might be pretty cool if there was some version of the boulder beetle that lurked in lava (or deep water) and remained hidden until it bursted out of it like the boulder beetle does now. It could make for a potentially nasty surprise.

Also, the Hive is the bee branch, which was removed quite awhile ago.

Well, if helps you find more, one time I found 11 potions of Gain Strength in a bailey. I've never seen anything close to that many spawn in an entire game since.

mumra wrote:I would certainly approve of a single-use evokable Holy Hand Grenade that explodes precisely three turns after throwing.

If the Evocations skill determines how often you properly count to three instead of five, then I'll like that idea.

(or use the AoE sleep, but that spell is pretty on up there) Are you referring to Metabolic Englaciation ? That hasn't put monsters to sleep for a couple of versions now. It's just mass slow. (Not that slowing everything in LOS is a bad thing) Yes, that's the one. I don't think I've ever memorized ...

Stabbing a group is very viable. To be blunt, you're just not doing it right. You can confuse-stab them, lure to a corridor and sleep stab them (or use the AoE sleep, but that spell is pretty on up there), summon-spam stab them, petrify-stab, or, probably the most efficient, invis-stab. There's also...

Ordinary fountains no longer give nutrition since a few versions ago (and, by extension, I don't think potions of water do anymore either, but may be wrong). Blood still does for Vamps and sparkling fountains have a chance at a potion of porridge. Or decay, so good luck!

For things like experience or stat gain, that time is 'as soon as you have a spare turn'. Minor correction here. This is true for experience, but not gain stat. It's an edge case, but not a wholly uncommon one. If you have bad mutations you're looking to cure (say berserkitis) or you plan on playin...

Worst case scenario, you can always drink potions* for nutrition. Note that they give very little when used for that purpose, so don't do it unless you have no other choice.

*Only beneficial I think, I don't think negative ones help. Someone correct me if I'm wrong or my info is flat out of date.

I don't think that's a problem. I've not heard about about people luring spores into large groups of monsters. It sounds pretty dangerous, to be honest, especially since spores are faster than most players. Much safer just to throw a rock at it and save yourself the risk. Same can be said for cloud ...

If you're worshipping Okawaru, you can find pretty much any flaming edged weapon and use Heroism to make quick work of the Hydra, regardless if you've actually trained that weapon skill or not. Just make sure you're durable enough to stand in front of a hydra momentarily and you have an open escape ...

Worth noting that undead are very immune to poison. So if you have some XP to spare and the spells are available, picking up Mephitic Cloud (if you're still pretty early), Olgreb's Toxic Radiance (works nicely against a lot of early swarms, like bees), and Poisonous Cloud are not bad idea. The easie...

This could be a good idea if it was on-death effects rather than on-death bonus items. Say... 1. Chaos clouds on death 2. No 3. Leaves a corpse that, when the chunks are eaten, gives temporary, possibly weaker, brilliance. Or randomly hits you with brilliance on death. Or leaves "clouds of bril...

njvack wrote:Well, if your DEs are letting dudes into melee range, period, that's why they're dying

Fixed.

Flavor-wise, this would presently only make sense with the three good gods. Gameplay-wise, you'd have to rebalance the entire main game to accommodate this idea, so no. There's really only two situations that could work into the DCSS right now as is. 1) The suggested sprint mode. 2) A "god"...

There should be a Xom vault with items described like that.

Make it something like auto-cursing CPM and people won't be swapping that on/off in mid-combat anytime soon.

Despite that, unsure if it's a good idea or not.

Could add treasure chests, which are squares that, when stepped on and no monsters are around, automatically spill their contents onto the floor. Sure, chests are a bit cliche, but pretty much every gamer has it ingrained into their mind that chest = potentially valuable loot.

What about Ash identifying books on sight, providing piety and curses are all at the right levels?

Assuming he doesn't already, I've not played with him in a few versions.

Having to wield chunks to cast Sub.Blood/Simulacrum is not merely an interface annoyance - it's a tactical decision. While using those spells you do not get the benefit of holding onto your weapon. If your weapon is some artifact or maybe even a staff for the resists, that can be significant stats/...

Why not just have the spells automatically pull items from the inventory without all these awkward interface issues. If a player wants to pick a specific chunk or arrow, they could cast the spell with Z instead of z (or whatever they changed the key to). No prompts if you don't want them and no unwi...

Lolwut? I take off my stasis and immediately teleport the HELL out of that specific situation, controlled or not. If I have to wait for it to kick in, I wear my rMut and hope for the best. The scenario doesn't specify if teleport is an available option or not. What do you do if you wind up there an...

I'd imagine it'd be a significantly weaker than straight-up casting Chain Lightning. Being able to "cast" that by slapping people in the face would be a bit overpowered. I think "electric-branded melee attack", perhaps with damage diminishing a bit for each hit, would be a good p...

One thing I always wonder why Crawl doesn't have are the classic "step on a pressure plate and the walls start spewing arrows, flames, poison gas, blades, and what have you at set points and at random intervals" as seen in a lot of other media. These would need to be largely/only placed b...

An electric form could have a chain-lightning branded attack, with the player as the chain lightning. So, you could swing at a mob and end up in a different square entirely. Would be potentially powerful, potentially useful for escapes, but risky if not used properly. That could be a totally horribl...

One thing I always wonder why Crawl doesn't have are the classic "step on a pressure plate and the walls start spewing arrows, flames, poison gas, blades, and what have you at set points and at random intervals" as seen in a lot of other media. These would need to be largely/only placed by...

Well, yeah thats viable once you have enough skill to cast both reliably, but in the early game you will probably have to choose one due to exp limitations. Ensorcelled Hibernation is a level 2, 2 school spell. It's much easier to get online than Meph and is better for stabbing. Invisibility is muc...

Not if the Draconian(s) die in one shot, which they tend to do when up against Ice Storm. And hungerless, easy channeling Ice Storm isn't exactly a stretch goal for a three-runer if you spend your XP right either. Note I'm not saying "blast an OoF, Mennas, an Ancient Lich, Boris, a Killer Klown...

Even oozes and skeletal rats resist it. Yeah...

It might have the potential to be more of a crowd controller than the plain confuse spell, but the confuse spell works on everything (in theory, MR and HD can be hard to overcome at times).

Always interact with an orb of fire only with Haste up, regardless of your character, and make sure you have adequate fire resistance. They're nasty, but not unbearably so. If you're thinking of shooting down an orb of fire before you turn and deal with that draconian or whatever, change your mind ...

Speaking of Mennas, never engage him without a wand of teleportation that you KNOW has several charges left in it (min two).

Random, related thought. What about adding levels two and three of the blinking mutation that lets you do semi- and controlled-blinks, respectively? This would be much more relevant if cBlink gets nerfed and it'd be pretty darn rare to get.

One turn delay might be enough to kill you - either because no defensive action will be enough to save you or because you don't have the appropriate defensive action available that would save you. 99 times out of a 100, if that one-turn delay killed you, you attempted to get out of the danger too l...

I third Minmay's suggestion. Remove cTele spell and ring, make both cBlink spell and scroll semi-cBlink, lower spell level if necessary. Full cBlink or cTele could perhaps continue exist on a rare fixedart, but otherwise it should go away. Too many situations too easy to escape with cTele and cBlink...

Having Yred grant piety for demon kills may or may not be the most ideal solution, but it's the quickest and easiest way to fix him being a "no-brainer to swap away from" in extended. His abilities would still not quite be up to the job, but at least you could use Pain Mirror without havin...

Rain, oklobs, spores from the occasional demonic crawler, and the typical piety decay. Oklobs might be out of their league in Pan, but since very little resists acid they're still pretty good at killing stuff and it's not like fruits cease spawning.

It's one thing if a god isn't as good in extended, and that's fine, but it just feels off when a pair of gods are nearly unusable there while the rest are. Simply giving Yred and Fedhas a way to get and maintain piety in extended would probably be enough to make them usable, even if suboptimally.

galehar wrote:
TwilightPhoenix wrote:Having a Create-A-Species mode would be interesting and useful, actually.

You can wizmode a human however you like, no need to code a special mode.

True, but there's still no "set apts and intrinsics to random" button, which where I'd personally find most of the fun.

Having a Create-A-Species mode would be interesting and useful, actually. Hardly a priority, sure, but it could let you play whatever crazy concoction your mind can come up with, possibly have the "good random" and "random" options for the "here's some messed up character, t...

It's not my definition of evil that matters here, it's Crawl's definition. And it seems to be unholy, demons, necromancy, and general "I like slaughtering everything". Alternatively, you could say it's stuff all three good gods mutually hate. There's no specific definition of "always ...

Psieye wrote:
TwilightPhoenix wrote:Conduct =/= lawful. It makes perfect sense for an evil god to have a conduct.
Evil =/= chaotic. I don't want to start going into D&D-style alignment charts, so I'll keep it brief: Yred is Lawful Evil, Xom is Chaotic Neutral.

D&D-style alignments =/= Crawl-style alignments.

Santa Clause and twelve reindeer come into view.
Santa Clause throws a large present at you!
Wow! That was really merry!
You die happy...

Conduct =/= lawful. It makes perfect sense for an evil god to have a conduct. For example: "Underlings, on the first night of full moon you must murder a young virgin woman in her sleep, eat her heart, and bathe in her blood to remain within my good graces." And, ironically, 3/5 of the cha...

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