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BobIsDead wrote:By the way, any idea what a "dorgi" was?

except, a cyborg (?)

BobIsDead wrote:Also, I'm now sad that I'll never get to go fight with a robot in crawl.

never say never.

wheals wrote:poor felid

OK, implemented. It'll be in trunk tomorrow morning.

Clarifications in advance: - In this plan, the penalties would be of the same type (-ev, -cast success, -attack speed, -uc attk spd) as at present; they’d just be reduced on a different schedule. - By analogy to armour, I’d place bucklers somewhere around, or slightly below, ring mail in penalty; no...

Currently, shields have hidden 'breakpoints' of skill at which their penalties are completely eliminated. This is bad, both because they're hidden (and vary by species, so even a spoilered player has to memorize & recall several different sets of numbers), but because they're hard breakpoints. I...

if anyone was wondering, sgrunt kindly provided me the answer: the removed monster type was the 'dorgi'.

quokkas were actually removed at the same time, but came back. can't keep a good marsupial down...?

actually, that last post wasn't true.

it was a lie.

sorry, all.

twelwe wrote:i know thats why i just fucking HATE losing magic dart charges

one time I ran into a level with 2,727 giant spores and had to hoard every single magic dart I had to survive!!!!

wands of magic dart are INSANELY good.

Toenail golems can also spawn on the orb run. As the wiki notes, Orbs of Fire have a strange history: In very ancient, pre-Stone Soup versions of Crawl, these monsters were instead called "Swords", in a reference to the Chronicles of an Age of Darkness by Hugh Cook. This explains the rathe...

duvessa wrote:I'll admit I haven't looked at most of the relevant code, but don't air elementals already work?

kind of. they 'submerge', like trapdoor spiders & eels. you might be able to hack that to make plants submerge when mushrooms walked into them, maybe.......?

I see no reason why wandering mushrooms shouldn't be able to pass through normal-sized plants. the reason is that it's a technical nightmare (fedhas passthrough for players is quite bad enough as is) I have no objection to Quazifugi and/or crate's suggestions, it's just a matter of someone implemen...

thread title is now dyslexically correct.

Shrug off (verb)

to dismiss as of little importance
an administration that was willing to shrug off the problem

nilsbloodaxe wrote:gammafunk was saying online the other day that they are moving towards eliminating Nemelex and cards. But they want to keep the interesting cards somehow. Maybe a spell.

gammafunk has wanted to remove nemelex for literally years. it is not going to happen

elliptic proposed fudging the numbers to ease memorization, something like: 50, 100, 150, 250, 400, 550, 700, 850, 1000 Pushed these. Did some searching through the git in the process; turns out that the old hunger numbers date back to pre-Stone-Soup. Also turns out that crawl did (and does) suppor...

Arrhythmia wrote:So status quo for crawl then?

In complete fairness, that quote is from a 15-year-old commit.

Crawl's code is still bad, but it's not quite that bad anymore.

Mostly.

I don't know for sure one way or the other, but elliptic may have been more concerned about ease of remembering/re-typing these numbers for people working on the code, rather than players looking it up on learndb. It isn't a huge deal either way, but since it isn't a huge deal, why not go with nice...

http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob_plain;f=crawl-ref/source/rltiles/gui/spells/transmutation/hydra_form.png;h=b274e6eaf57658d54a688ace3dc2a38a8a0da482;hb=b274e6eaf57658d54a688ace3dc2a38a8a0da482 What's this? Hydra Form is evolving... . .. ... http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob_pla...

Casting a spell lowers your nutrition by an amount varying with the spell's level: (1) 50, (2) 95, (3) 160, (4) 250, (5) 350, (6) 550, (7) 700, (8) 860, (9) 1000. Here's a graph of current spell hunger: http://i.imgur.com/EqPBEeb.png Here's one of the change in spell hunger from the previous level:...

XuaXua wrote:With the comments on the patch submission, you'd think that adding +Stealth would have been called for.

We talked about it, but the conclusion was that it would be stomping on the niche that "boots of stealth" already fill. One +slth aux armour ego is probably enough.

XuaXua wrote:Rename it, "developers", and then get rid of rings of invisibility like you did rings of regeneration. Tolkien be-damned.

Do you really want amulets of invisibility that much?

duvessa wrote:Personally I think it's worse from a design perspective than other breath weapons because it duplicates a common item.

Is Disc of Storms really all that common?

XuaXua: the stylish non-wizard hat, handcrafted with skill, made of lovely lamb leather and ornate with a fantastic pheasant feather is gone. What's left? Ridiculous cone-shapped Harry Potter hats... It would have suit the Vampire Shark Robot perfectly... http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob...

Sar wrote:The post that started this thread is hardly well-spirited. Not like I care, though. I just want a goddamn explanation.

I'm more curious about their time spent "undoing the damage you people are doing to this game", personally. Is skjarl a secret dev?

I'm ok with no chunks for eating anymore (as much as I will miss chopping up and eating raw elves) but what about the "flavor" chunks generated when an enemy is disintegrated? we actually discussed this; iirc the best suggestion was painting the floors with 'offal' or something along thos...

Did you mean to post this in CYC?

Much like other roguelike traditions (e.g. the ID game), it's much more relevant at the start of the game, where you can easily get stuck with a cursed amulet of inaccuracy or -3 spear for several floors if you're reckless in equipping items. Later on it's not very relevant for most non-Ash characte...

Enemies drop meat rations and jerkies instead of chunks, so kobolds are just fine. Or do I misunderstand? That's currently how the chunkless branch works, but consensus was that 'enemies dropping permafood' was a failure; probably, if chunkless is revived, it will go back to the initial "highe...

Meat rations are not being removed, so I don't see why it would need addressing in the first place. Going from "can eat everything, always engorged" to "can only eat a minority of food items, like spriggan but only with more uncommon food types and without the slow metabolism" i...

nicolae wrote:Because it's not a "real" monster, it's an orb of fire redefined with vault syntax to have a new name and spell list, so it just inherits the base properties (like resists) of the monster it's based off of.

yep. you'll notice it also only has rc+

It's not. I think one of the Sprints has a vault-defined orb of ice. Yep! orb of ice (*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil, vault | Res: magic(immune), hellfire, fire+++, cold, elec+++, poison+++, rot+++, neg+++, torm, napalm | XP: 9612 | Sp: glaciat...

There's a chance of stumbling on the stairs and going nowhere, iirc.

IIRC, the last time I looked into this, the numbers were about one in three, for games that got far enough for wizlabs to spawn.

I think that would be good, FDA and IDA are practically unusable for most characters, because RF++ does not make up for RC-, so now I need to give up 2 slots to get to RC+. It's rare that that's even possible, let alone worthwhile, and the armor itself isn't even that great (8ac, 11 evp certainly i...

Similarly, is there no way the chunk inventory spaces could be consolidated? Is a malleable stack of inventory junk a crawl taboo? Eg one stack of chunks where the 'decomposed' chunks are removed automatically from that stack. I've been working on this on and off, but it's actually quite technicall...

instead of ignoring, I'm going to laugh

best possible bug #9000

Aule wrote:How do commits get committed? Someone just makes the change and that's that?

fucked up, but true.

Once upon a time a certain wandering fungus that meleed the code a bit too much when refactoring (cleaning it up), and the code became confused. I fixed the bug in the commit you linked, and when the server rebuilds this evening (midnight for cszo, and I think the same for cao), the problem will go...

Sar wrote:just reword their description to "two strong arms already", I mean COME ON

then rename them to 'mountain dwarves'

Pushed some variant of the stat control. Undecided about sustab; might add that later, might not.

It's a god encouraging you doing something that the god doesn't want you to do. trog encourages you to eat corpses so that you can berserk, but that means you can't sacrifice them to get piety! what's the deal with that? the invo thing is a tradeoff, just like every other non-spellcasting skill inv...

imho skip the intervening steps and go straight to parabolic

parabolic[1/1]: Lua bot that autoplays HOBe, returning control to a human pilot when it is scared of something. Written by elliptic and elliott. Piloted to a 32-minute win by elliptic.

What other brand do blowguns get, besides evasion? The only one I can think of is chaos (through Xom's direct intervention), and that doesn't actually do anything, sadly.

Siegurt wrote:Actually, what I would *really* like for Sif, is if invocations counted as a "spellcasting skill" for the purpose of gaining sif piety...

That seems neither intuitive, nor flavorful, nor particularly necessary for balance. It's a tradeoff, just like all skill investments.

Crate makes some very good points. I agree that the current situation is... poor, from a design perspective, in terms of the item shuffling it encourages - I've noticed it myself, in my own games. but I'm not fond of the idea of allowing evocable stacking, either. some limited use system, per (c), m...

Crawl already has a nasty habit of throwing too many abilities at the player - potions, scrolls, wands, spells, god abilities, mutation abilities, species abilities, evocable equipment, elemental evocables, moving, firing, and probably some others that I'm not thinking of off the top of my head. Pas...

This is not *much* different than the current implementation of acid (a temporary debuff on AC) however I think just adding more reasons to have rCorr in the extended game wouldn't be very interesting (It just makes other amulet choices less viable) I would like there to be some reason to have rcor...

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